RE: Moving system properties to gnu.classpath.*

2004-10-10 Thread David Holmes
Jeroen, Would you like to work with me to try to refactor the way system properties are handled to untangle the initialization dependencies and to allow you to use more Classpath code as-is? I'd like to use more of Classpath as-is but I don't think the particular dependencies we have can be

RE: clickthrough license

2004-10-10 Thread David Holmes
Mark Wielaard writes: I just looked at these two jsr's and both are not even available through a click-through. (Strangely enough both just point to the sun 1.5.0 implementation documentation, which as far as I know doesn't include the specs at all.) Yes I was a little surprised to see this

Re: clickthrough license

2004-10-10 Thread Per Bothner
David Holmes wrote: The JCP also doesn't require the (final) specifications to be provided under a click-wrap. Being involved in this at present with another JSR I can assure you that the JCP does require a click-through license for downloading specs. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I think it

RE: clickthrough license

2004-10-10 Thread David Holmes
Being involved in this at present with another JSR I can assure you that the JCP does require a click-through license for downloading specs. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I think it would be useful if you could point to a specific document that states such a requriement. I should said

Re: clickthrough license

2004-10-10 Thread Per Bothner
David Holmes wrote: I should said PMO rather than JCP. The JCP document itself doesn't cover this, however the PMO seems to require it. If you look at the Spec lead Guide on jcp.org you'll see that for Proposed Final Draft The PMO will provide the spec license ... and then for Final Approval

RE: clickthrough license

2004-10-10 Thread David Holmes
However, I'm sure Spec Leads can pick their license terms, at least within certain limits. And some JSRs are open-source, at least the implementation. I think the spec leads can, within-limits, define the terms for the RI and TCK - because in a sense they own that. But they don't own the spec