Re: Clojure/flutter

2018-06-27 Thread Gal Dolber
#x27;am also looking for the clojuredart so i can write flutter app with > clojure > > 在 2018年4月26日星期四 UTC+8上午5:42:23,Gregg Reynolds写道: > >> Flutter is looking pretty good to me. Sure would be nice to have a >> clojure->flutter compiler. Anthing there, there? >> >

Re: Clojure/flutter

2018-06-27 Thread vinurs zhang
I'am also looking for the clojuredart so i can write flutter app with clojure 在 2018年4月26日星期四 UTC+8上午5:42:23,Gregg Reynolds写道: > > Flutter is looking pretty good to me. Sure would be nice to have a > clojure->flutter compiler. Anthing there, there? > -- You received this

Re: Clojure/flutter

2018-06-25 Thread Gregg Reynolds
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018, 10:08 AM Gregg Reynolds wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 5:01 PM, Robert Levy wrote: > >> What would you say is the advantage of using Flutter instead of React >> Native? Assuming you're not interested in Dart, what is the selling point? >> > > I haven't used it yet >

Re: Clojure/flutter

2018-05-29 Thread Robert Levy
A while ago David Kay wrote about clojure-clr + xamarin. Does anyone have any success/horror stories going down that path? (It seems like Unity in Clojure is much more well-trodden, though not open source.) CLR approaches may be a better option than React Native and the like, especially for using

Re: Clojure/flutter

2018-04-29 Thread Gregg Reynolds
On Sun, Apr 29, 2018, 5:24 PM Didier wrote: > Honestly, I doubt any project will have more backing then Graal's native > image. > Looking at Graal. Indistinguishable from magic AFAIK. > > So I think its the best shot at Clojure native we've ever had, and > probably the ideal one at that, since

Re: Clojure/flutter

2018-04-29 Thread Didier
Honestly, I doubt any project will have more backing then Graal's native image. So I think its the best shot at Clojure native we've ever had, and probably the ideal one at that, since it'll boast all existing libraries. What could help is to then look at compiler options for Clojure that could

Re: Clojure/flutter

2018-04-29 Thread Estevo U. C. Castro
This was apropos two points made in this thread: - Clojure needing X from the runtime; my point here is that some Schemes may provide the things you'd demand from a native implementation: fast startup time, smallish binaries, etc., and even tail call optimization as a bonus, but also the drawba

Re: Clojure/flutter

2018-04-28 Thread Gregg Reynolds
On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 6:50 PM, Estevo U. C. Castro wrote: > Just in case you hadn't heard of this: > > https://github.com/takeoutweight/clojure-scheme > > Thanks. Alas, most recent update seems to be 5 years ago. :( I know there have been some efforts along these lines but AFAIK they have all

Re: Clojure/flutter

2018-04-28 Thread Estevo U. C. Castro
Just in case you hadn't heard of this: https://github.com/takeoutweight/clojure-scheme sábado, 28 de Abril de 2018 às 08:07:13 UTC+2, Didier escreveu: > > The thing about Clojure->native, is that Clojure needs a pretty powerful > runtime. > > So we'd need to piggy back on something native that s

Re: Clojure/flutter

2018-04-28 Thread 'Adam Tait' via Clojure
I've been considering the same trade-offs recently. I looked at ClojureScript->RN but found the levels of indirection, the heavy number of libraries and lack of concurrency (important on mobile devices) make me unenthusiastic. I've also looked at Flutter (& DartLang) but coming from Clojure I w

Re: Clojure/flutter

2018-04-27 Thread Didier
The thing about Clojure->native, is that Clojure needs a pretty powerful runtime. So we'd need to piggy back on something native that similarly has a strong runtime. Common Lisp maybe, or Go. I'd vote for Go. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojur

Re: Clojure/flutter

2018-04-27 Thread Alan Moore
Or maybe a WebAssembly or LLVM target. Lots of reach from those ;-) Alan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient

Re: Clojure/flutter

2018-04-27 Thread Robert Levy
> > > Then there's the possibility of stealing flutter's thunder and writing > clj->native compilers. Everybody wants that. > > That would be awesome! > Gregg > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email

Re: Clojure/flutter

2018-04-27 Thread Gregg Reynolds
On Fri, Apr 27, 2018, 1:40 PM Robert Levy wrote: > dartjure? > darjure? > darture? > datura? > https://www.darts501.com/Terms.html > Well it's not just a question of how much effort it will take, but whether > the interest in Dart as a target (pun intended?) would be high enough to > sustain t

Re: Clojure/flutter

2018-04-27 Thread Robert Levy
dartjure? darjure? darture? datura? Well it's not just a question of how much effort it will take, but whether the interest in Dart as a target (pun intended?) would be high enough to sustain the project over time. On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 11:06 AM, Kees-Jochem Wehrmeijer wrote: > Flutter defini

Re: Clojure/flutter

2018-04-27 Thread Robert Levy
> > Oh yeah, I forgot to mention: hot reloading! Have you heard of it? It's > revolutionary! ;) > >> >> Gregg >> > Yeah I've seen that somewhere before, I forget where... ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send e

Re: Clojure/flutter

2018-04-26 Thread Gregg Reynolds
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018, 10:08 AM Gregg Reynolds wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 5:01 PM, Robert Levy wrote: > >> What would you say is the advantage of using Flutter instead of React >> Native? Assuming you're not interested in Dart, what is the selling point? >> > > I haven't used it yet bu

Re: Clojure/flutter

2018-04-26 Thread Gregg Reynolds
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018, 1:06 PM Kees-Jochem Wehrmeijer wrote: > Flutter definitely looks interesting, but I guess to make it work with > Clojure would require writing a 'ClojureDart', i.e. a Clojure that compiles > to Dart code. Given Dart sits somewhere between Java and Javascript, this > is maybe

Re: Clojure/flutter

2018-04-26 Thread Kees-Jochem Wehrmeijer
Flutter definitely looks interesting, but I guess to make it work with Clojure would require writing a 'ClojureDart', i.e. a Clojure that compiles to Dart code. Given Dart sits somewhere between Java and Javascript, this is maybe not undoable, but would certainly be a lot of work. On Thursday,

Re: Clojure/flutter

2018-04-26 Thread Gregg Reynolds
On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 5:01 PM, Robert Levy wrote: > What would you say is the advantage of using Flutter instead of React > Native? Assuming you're not interested in Dart, what is the selling point? > I haven't used it yet but the interesting bits to me are efficiency (no Javascript bridge) a

Re: Clojure/flutter

2018-04-25 Thread Robert Levy
What would you say is the advantage of using Flutter instead of React Native? Assuming you're not interested in Dart, what is the selling point? On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 2:42 PM, Gregg Reynolds wrote: > Flutter is looking pretty good to me. Sure would be nice to have a > cloju

Clojure/flutter

2018-04-25 Thread Gregg Reynolds
Flutter is looking pretty good to me. Sure would be nice to have a clojure->flutter compiler. Anthing there, there? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note th