Given Oracle's lawsuit against Google for its use of the JVM, is
anyone else suddenly much more concerned about the states of Clojure
in Clojure and CLR compatibility? I know the former is an important
goal and also that the existence of the latter is due to heroic
volunteer efforts on behalf of a
I believe they do not sue over the JVM but over Dalvik.
The OpenJDK is,I think, a bit protected frompatents by its license and
the fact t has been distributed by the patents' owner.
However, Clojure in Clojure and better support of other platforms
would be great.
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:13
Clojure runnes manly on the JVM. Oracle ownes (or has the patents) why
should anything change for clojure?
As far as Dalvik goes. Why should Clojure care the lawsuit is about
implementation details (as far as I understand) in the VM the basic
working will be the same.
Befor starting a real
On Aug 13, 2010, at 13:13 , Seth wrote:
Given Oracle's lawsuit against Google for its use of the JVM, is
anyone else suddenly much more concerned about the states of Clojure
in Clojure and CLR compatibility?
As far as I understand those things are absolutely not related, oracle isn't
suing
I think it is all just posturing and gamesmanship, and will get
settled by Google paying some sort of fee. Unless Google can buy
someone with patents that Oracle is infringing then they can cross
license.
The only two implications I can think of are
(1) Hardly helpful for people's confidence in
On Aug 13, 11:32 am, Quzanti quza...@googlemail.com wrote:
The only two implications I can think o
(1) Hardly helpful for people's confidence in the Java Platform, if
Oracle embarks on these kind of surprise antics. May push people
towards CLR. If Oracle start getting aggressive, then
CLR also infringes Oracle's patents and the only reason why Oracle is not
likely to sue Microsoft is that Microsoft could do the same to Oracle.
See
http://jonathanischwartz.wordpress.com/2010/03/09/good-artists-copy-great-artists-steal/
Mono - the open source implementation of .NET also has
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 23:08:40 +0400
Mikhail Kryshen mikh...@kryshen.net wrote:
I doubt it is possible to create runtime like JVM or CLR without patent
problems.
Given that virtual machine technology like(1) the JVM and CLR have
been around since the 70s - long before even C++ ++ -- was a gleam
Sorry all -- I think my original message went slightly awry. The
announcement was a shock and quickly followed by waves of grumbling
from devs I follow on Twitter. While it's easy to extrapolate the
future from Oracle's past and this announcement, it's not necessarily
useful or accurate to do so.
I'm in favor of any discussion that yields more support for Clojure on
CLR. :)
- David
On Aug 13, 3:36 pm, Seth seth.schroe...@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry all -- I think my original message went slightly awry. The
announcement was a shock and quickly followed by waves of grumbling
from devs I
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