Re: Oracle and Clojure

2009-04-21 Thread Stuart Sierra
On Apr 20, 9:13 am, Sean Devlin wrote: > http://www.sun.com/third-party/global/oracle/index.jsp > > Any thoughts on how this affects Clojure? Ars Technica has a good analysis, and a fabulous graphic: http://tinyurl.com/csyxos quote: "Oracle is a prominent player in the Java middleware space and

Re: Oracle and Clojure

2009-04-21 Thread Sean Devlin
Thanks to *everyone* for responding! I can see that I was over reacting yesterday. Time for me to stop worrying and get back to coding. Sean On Apr 21, 2:05 am, Adrian Cuthbertson wrote: > There are some precedents - the acquisition of SleepyCat (berkeley db, > et al) - still readily availabl

Re: Oracle and Clojure

2009-04-20 Thread Adrian Cuthbertson
There are some precedents - the acquisition of SleepyCat (berkeley db, et al) - still readily available under GPL compatible licenses. On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 7:47 AM, AlamedaMike wrote: > >>> I can see a lot of technologies that drive the open source world, and this >>> group, being compromise

Re: Oracle and Clojure

2009-04-20 Thread AlamedaMike
>> I can see a lot of technologies that drive the open source world, and this >> group, being compromised Nothing's going to happen, for the simple reason that the cost to Oracle's reputation would far outweigh anything they might gain from charging for open-source products. The ultimate effect

Re: Oracle and Clojure

2009-04-20 Thread Dan
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Greg Harman wrote: > > > Has anyone here been able to install Clojure on IcedTea? > > For what it's worth, I run Clojure on SoyLatte and have never had a > problem. I never had any problem on IcedTea. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You re

Re: Oracle and Clojure

2009-04-20 Thread Greg Harman
> Has anyone here been able to install Clojure on IcedTea? For what it's worth, I run Clojure on SoyLatte and have never had a problem. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this

Re: Oracle and Clojure

2009-04-20 Thread Luc Prefontaine
You can bet that regulatory agencies will look at this deal closely. Not only in the US and not only at the deal itself but also how Oracle will behave in the near future. Luc On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 09:09 -0700, Phil Hagelberg wrote: > Sean Devlin writes: > > > *Will Java continue to be open so

Re: Oracle and Clojure

2009-04-20 Thread Phil Hagelberg
Sean Devlin writes: > *Will Java continue to be open source? It is simply not possible for this to go away. Future development on Java _could_ be released under developer-hostile licenses, but this would probably be a good thing if the license were bad enough since it would make it obvious that

Re: Oracle and Clojure

2009-04-20 Thread hank williams
I believe there is 0% chance that the JVM will be charged for. I don't think there has ever been an example of an open source thing becoming closed source. The JVM is a generic language spec that many people have implemented. I dont see any changes to "JDBC". First it is not a product but a spec.

Re: Oracle and Clojure

2009-04-20 Thread Sean Devlin
I guess I should have stated my initial concern better. I've had to use several Oracle products in the past (PL/SQL & 9i), and they weren't developer friendly. I'm worried about the JVM becoming less open than it currently is. I can see a lot of technologies that drive the open source world, an

Re: Oracle and Clojure

2009-04-20 Thread hank williams
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Sean Devlin wrote: > > Okay, I'm willing to bet this crowd has already seen this: > > http://www.sun.com/third-party/global/oracle/index.jsp > > Any thoughts on how this affects Clojure? No effect. > > > -- blog: whydoeseverythingsuck.com --~--~-~--~

Oracle and Clojure

2009-04-20 Thread Sean Devlin
Okay, I'm willing to bet this crowd has already seen this: http://www.sun.com/third-party/global/oracle/index.jsp Any thoughts on how this affects Clojure? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" g