Re: Second Lisp to Learn

2009-12-22 Thread blackdog
Thanks for the links, the last gives a good summary. I think newlisp is great for scripting, if i were on the jvm on a large project I'd use clojure, but for tasks that I might use ruby,python, or perl for i find newlisp refreshingly clean and direct. It may be warty, if warty means practical. C

Re: Second Lisp to Learn

2009-12-21 Thread Richard Newman
> newLISP I've seen enough about newLISP to not bother. http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/257#comment-1901 http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.lisp/browse_thread/thread/39a9e50aa548637f http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2006/04/20/newlisp-an-intriguing-dialect-of-lisp/ -- You received this

Re: Second Lisp to Learn

2009-12-21 Thread blackdog
newLISP On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 12:31 -0800, Sean Devlin wrote: > Hi everyone, > After hacking Clojure for a while, I've come to the conclusion that > studying a second Lisp would help. So, what do the people here > think? What is a good Lisp to study? Are there particular dialects & > distributi

Re: Second Lisp to Learn

2009-12-21 Thread Kevin Downey
instant second lisp: just write your own interpreter On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Jonathan Smith wrote: > Lisp Flavored Erlang is an extremely interesting lisp. in my opinion. > > You get Erlang, and you also get s-expressions and macros. > > Common Lisp and Scheme are the obvious choices, I

Re: Second Lisp to Learn

2009-12-20 Thread Jonathan Smith
Lisp Flavored Erlang is an extremely interesting lisp. in my opinion. You get Erlang, and you also get s-expressions and macros. Common Lisp and Scheme are the obvious choices, I suppose. Learning common lisp I would probably go towards clozure common lisp, or clisp. (SBCL is fine (great, even)

Re: Second Lisp to Learn

2009-12-20 Thread Timothy Pratley
On Dec 21, 7:31 am, Sean Devlin wrote: > What is a good Lisp to study?  Are there particular dialects & > distributions that are interesting? The free downloadable SICP lectures (and book) were for me really illuminating after initial contact with Clojure. Engaging and broad. A little off topic s

Re: Second Lisp to Learn

2009-12-20 Thread Phil Hagelberg
Sean Devlin writes: > After hacking Clojure for a while, I've come to the conclusion that > studying a second Lisp would help. So, what do the people here > think? What is a good Lisp to study? Are there particular dialects & > distributions that are interesting? Emacs Lisp is definitely the

Re: Second Lisp to Learn

2009-12-20 Thread Harold Ancell
At 02:31 PM 12/20/2009, Sean Devlin wrote: >Hi everyone, >After hacking Clojure for a while, I've come to the conclusion that >studying a second Lisp would help. So, what do the people here >think? What is a good Lisp to study? While my preference here prior to learning about Clojure has been Sc

Re: Second Lisp to Learn

2009-12-20 Thread Jeff Heon
If you're going to try the straight Scheme avenue, you might try the Gambit implementation, which is touted as very fast. http://dynamo.iro.umontreal.ca/~gambit/wiki/index.php/Main_Page A good way to good if you already use Emacs as your IDE. For something different but still Scheme based, there

Re: Second Lisp to Learn

2009-12-20 Thread Martin DeMello
plt scheme seconded. great language, great libraries, great community, great documentation, and under active development. martin On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Mark Engelberg wrote: > http://plt-scheme.org/ > Use the textbook htdp.org and you will develop a very deep > understanding of how to

Re: Second Lisp to Learn

2009-12-20 Thread Andy Fingerhut
I don't have broad experience with various Lisps, but I have also done some programming in Scheme and Common Lisp. You can program in a functional style in both, or in an imperative style in both. In Scheme, functional style is a bit more idiomatic, so you will find more examples of functional st

Re: Second Lisp to Learn

2009-12-20 Thread Mark Engelberg
http://plt-scheme.org/ Use the textbook htdp.org and you will develop a very deep understanding of how to structure programs in Lisp (and this understanding will transfer to other languages as well). You mentioned that you want to see if there are other ideas worth stealing. Not only does PLT Sch

Second Lisp to Learn

2009-12-20 Thread Sean Devlin
Hi everyone, After hacking Clojure for a while, I've come to the conclusion that studying a second Lisp would help. So, what do the people here think? What is a good Lisp to study? Are there particular dialects & distributions that are interesting? The things that are important to me are: A com