Re: slackpocalypse? next steps?

Yes. Sean Corfield -- (970) FOR-SEAN -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood On 5/29/17, 5:46 AM, "'Adrian A.' via Clojure" wrote: > We’re almost certainly not going to find a replacem

Re: slackpocalypse? next steps?

> We’re almost certainly not going to find a *replacement* for Slack (or any other communications medium) Have you tried Mattermost? - https://about.mattermost.com/ - https://github.com/mattermost/platform regards. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou

Re: slackpocalypse? next steps?

That link worked. Thanks. I was on Mac but didn’t have the native app installed so Safari just barfed on that link. Confusingly there’s a “clojurians” Discord server and a “Clojurians” server too. The former seems to be an old testbed set up last year to try Discord out as an alternative.

Re: slackpocalypse? next steps?

> On May 25, 2017, at 3:09 PM, Sean Corfield wrote: > > On 5/25/17, 12:43 PM, "Luke Burton" luke_bur...@me.com> wrote: >> I've added the Discord invite link in this document > > I gather that requires an app installed, not just a web browser? I clicked > the link, clicked to accept the invite

Re: slackpocalypse? next steps?

l impending > “Slackpocalypse” and it seems like some people think this is a problem that > needs to be “solved” (by consensus) – but, despite a lot of conversations > (in the #community-development channel on the Clojurians Slack primarily), > no “perfect solution” has yet been agreed…

Re: slackpocalypse? next steps?

On 5/25/17, 12:43 PM, "Luke Burton" wrote: > I've added the Discord invite link in this document I gather that requires an app installed, not just a web browser? I clicked the link, clicked to accept the invite, and got an error about a discord:// link not being supported. (this is the sort of

Re: slackpocalypse? next steps?

On May 25, 2017 2:43 PM, "Luke Burton" wrote: I put together this "survey" a few days ago in the hope of starting to collect some structured feedback on the pros and cons of each service. Very much along the lines of what you're saying – I expect the end result would be "people have diverse need

Re: slackpocalypse? next steps?

een fixed - people were getting buzzed by default way too much. Ping me in Discord at @hagus if you would like settings changed, have questions, want to set up your own bot, etc! > On May 24, 2017, at 4:18 PM, Sean Corfield wrote: > > I agree. There’s been a lot of hand-wringing about

Re: slackpocalypse? next steps?

I agree. There’s been a lot of hand-wringing about the potential impending “Slackpocalypse” and it seems like some people think this is a problem that needs to be “solved” (by consensus) – but, despite a lot of conversations (in the #community-development channel on the Clojurians Slack

Re: slackpocalypse?

d the matrix video linked above and it seems there is a Slack >> bridge that would allow Slack fans to stay put and others to choose their >> own client or even go back to IRC. What am I missing? >> > > The slack bridge is working fine, but slack has a nagging limitation of

Re: slackpocalypse?

client or even go back to IRC. What am I missing? > The slack bridge is working fine, but slack has a nagging limitation of one bridged room per organization or some "monetization incentive" like that. If slack allowed a full bridge, "slackpocalypse" and its message limit

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I watched the matrix video linked above and it seems there is a Slack bridge that would allow Slack fans to stay put and others to choose their own client or even go back to IRC. What am I missing? I too have no skin in this game... I still prefer this mailing list, as is self evident. I suppose I

Re: slackpocalypse?

I have no skin in this game, but wasn't the move to Slack pretty much a "vote with your feet" combined with word of mouth advertising? It seems to me the same could happen to add another on-line chat tool/system, without anyone taking a poll/voting on this or any other medium. We'll know when it

Re: slackpocalypse?

On 24 May 2017 at 00:13, Herwig Hochleitner wrote: > I doubt the whole community would want to move anywhere from Slack. > Perhaps this will have to wait until Slack inevitably throws us off, then. What would you need to solve your discoverability issues (a)? Isn't it as > easy as handing out a

Re: slackpocalypse?

2017-05-23 12:19 GMT+02:00 Colin Fleming : > I doubt the whole community would want to move there from Slack > I doubt the whole community would want to move anywhere from Slack. my main requirements are that a) people can find me easily, b) everything > works with no hassle and c) old conversa

Re: slackpocalypse?

There's been a lot of discussion around this, there's a page about the possibility of moving to Matrix here: https://hackpad.com/The-case-for-Matrix-xRXYSO9zpyh. While it has some nice properties (decentralised, open, can be encrypted etc) it comes at a serious usability cost. I doubt the whole com

Re: slackpocalypse?

2017-05-22 15:50 GMT+02:00 Gregg Reynolds : > > Took a closer look - now I remember where I saw matrix before, they > participate in tadhacks . It's not really an > app, much more ambitious than that. Definitely deserves a closer look. > Yes, it's a decentralized pers

Re: slackpocalypse?

On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Herwig Hochleitner wrote: > 2017-05-22 0:28 GMT+02:00 Gregg Reynolds : > >> >> Took a quick look. I must say the UI is not particularly impressive. So >> far, I find discord much more intuitive. >> > > If discord was decentralized _and_ open source, then I'd say

Re: slackpocalypse?

2017-05-22 0:28 GMT+02:00 Gregg Reynolds : > > Took a quick look. I must say the UI is not particularly impressive. So > far, I find discord much more intuitive. > If discord was decentralized _and_ open source, then I'd say we could have this comparison. As it is, I'd much rather forfeit some

Re: slackpocalypse?

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 7:46 AM, Herwig Hochleitner wrote: > As I said in the other thread, let's migrate to matrix.org: > https://riot.im/app/#/room/#clojure:matrix.org > There, if the official servers ever get overloaded/dropped/monetized, we > can just start hosting our own server without loos

Re: slackpocalypse?

On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 10:51 PM, Mars0i wrote: > Slack is working for me today. There are posts in the Clojure channel, > for example, from just two hours ago. Maybe the end of the world didn't > occur? On the other hand, the Specter channel says only "To see this > channel's full history, up

slackpocalypse?

I found the Slack (and IRC) channel most useful for quick questions I need immediate feedback for. I found myself missing the email traffic that used to happen on this list but has gone over to Slack. Maybe it is the search that I found lacking or just the effort one usually puts into forming a

Re: slackpocalypse?

just for fun i posted a mini-survey on #clojure (on slack clojurians) asking more or less, "should we dump slack?" after almost 24 hours, the results are in: yea: 7 nay: 3 chicken: 5 a whopping response rate of 15 out of about 10K! Conclusion: not perceived as a big issue. On May 20, 2017 1

Re: slackpocalypse?

Slack is working for me today. There are posts in the Clojure channel, for example, from just two hours ago. Maybe the end of the world didn't occur? On the other hand, the Specter channel says only "To see this channel's full history, upgrade to one of our paid plans." I'm not sure I under

Re: slackpocalypse?

On May 19, 2017 2:57 PM, "Alex Miller" wrote: On Friday, May 19, 2017 at 2:27:35 PM UTC-5, Gregg Reynolds wrote: > > > I'm inclined to think moving away from slack would be wise, but only with > the blessing of the core Clojure team. After all any of us could set up > something on matrix or dis

Re: slackpocalypse?

On Friday, May 19, 2017 at 2:27:35 PM UTC-5, Gregg Reynolds wrote: > > > I'm inclined to think moving away from slack would be wise, but only with > the blessing of the core Clojure team. After all any of us could set up > something on matrix or discourse etc. but if successful that would lead

Re: slackpocalypse?

On May 19, 2017 2:11 PM, "'Lee Spector' via Clojure" < clojure@googlegroups.com> wrote: FWIW my research group used Slack for a while, but we switched to Discourse close to two years ago and have been quite happy with it ( https://push-language.hampshire.edu, although only a tiny subset is public

Re: slackpocalypse?

FWIW my research group used Slack for a while, but we switched to Discourse close to two years ago and have been quite happy with it (https://push-language.hampshire.edu, although only a tiny subset is publicly viewable). We're a much smaller community, with different needs, but still, I can

Re: slackpocalypse?

I have no opinion, but fwiw the OCaml folks began experimenting with Discourse about a week ago: https://discuss.ocaml.org. This isn't really an IRC/Slack style platform, afaics, but the discussions that led up to it included concern about Slack's message limit. (These discussions can be found

Re: slackpocalypse?

As I said in the other thread, let's migrate to matrix.org: https://riot.im/app/#/room/#clojure:matrix.org There, if the official servers ever get overloaded/dropped/monetized, we can just start hosting our own server without loosing any history. Also it has no message limit and full searchability.

Re: slackpocalypse? (Alternatives to Slack like Matrix.org)

In any such discussion, I'll heavily favor matrix.org. To me, decentralization seems inevitable and I hope that it will already carry, what marketers will be calling web 3.0. Current matrix.org infrastructure is only semi-decentralized (similar to xmpp), but the data model is already built with ful

Re: slackpocalypse?

A company I did some work for adopted Ryver for the very reason that it was the "free" alternative to Slack. While it did most of the job as the company's comm bus, my experience was that they are a far cry from Slack. The integration story is weak too. This crowd would not be happy with Ryver,

Re: slackpocalypse? (Alternatives to Slack like Matrix.org)

ns (by cellphone) for >> about 30 minutes, but i can connect to other slack groups. >> >> have we hit >> https://github.com/clojurians/clojurians-chat/wiki/Slackpocalypse [1]? >> we're almost to 10K subscribers. >> >> g Links: -- [1] h

Re: slackpocalypse?

On May 18, 2017 5:06 PM, "Timothy Baldridge" wrote: You know, there's this awesome bit of tech called IRC...someone should check that out. there's also this "email" thing people are talking about, but i don't really understand it. a series of tubes of some kind, i gather. -- You received thi

Re: slackpocalypse?

On May 18, 2017 5:06 PM, "Timothy Baldridge" wrote: You know, there's this awesome bit of tech called IRC...someone should check that out. that is so 90s! On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 3:31 PM, Gregg Reynolds wrote: > looks like access is restored, for me at least. still, slack is making me > a

Re: slackpocalypse?

but i can connect to other slack groups. >> >> have we hit https://github.com/clojurians/clojurians-chat/wiki/ >> Slackpocalypse? we're almost to 10K subscribers. >> >> g >> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: slackpocalypse?

> is it just me? i've been unable to connect to clojurians (by cellphone) > for about 30 minutes, but i can connect to other slack groups. > > have we hit https://github.com/clojurians/clojurians-chat/ > wiki/Slackpocalypse? we're almost to 10K subscribers. > > g > &

Re: slackpocalypse?

>>> On Thursday, May 18, 2017 at 1:15:17 PM UTC-7, Gregg Reynolds wrote: >>>> >>>> is it just me? i've been unable to connect to clojurians (by cellphone) >>>> for about 30 minutes, but i can connect to other slack groups. >>>> >&

Re: slackpocalypse?

t; for about 30 minutes, but i can connect to other slack groups. >>> >>> have we hit https://github.com/clojurians/clojurians-chat/wiki/ >>> Slackpocalypse? we're almost to 10K subscribers. >>> >>> g >>> >>> >>> -- >> You

Re: slackpocalypse?

e been unable to connect to clojurians (by cellphone) >>>> for about 30 minutes, but i can connect to other slack groups. >>>> >>>> have we hit https://github.com/clojurians/clojurians-chat/wiki/ >>>> Slackpocalypse? we're almost to 10K subsc

Re: slackpocalypse?

7 PM UTC-7, Gregg Reynolds wrote: >>> >>> is it just me? i've been unable to connect to clojurians (by cellphone) >>> for about 30 minutes, but i can connect to other slack groups. >>> >>> have we hit >>> https://github.com/clojurians/

Re: slackpocalypse?

On May 18, 2017 3:32 PM, "Jason Stewart" wrote: I'm experiencing the same thing, while I am able to connect with my other slack teams. this is not looking good. https://davechen.net/2017/01/slack-user-limit/ On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Kenny Williams wrote: > I am not able to connect

Re: slackpocalypse?

rote: >> >> is it just me? i've been unable to connect to clojurians (by cellphone) >> for about 30 minutes, but i can connect to other slack groups. >> >> have we hit https://github.com/clojurians/clojurians-chat/wiki/ >> Slackpocalypse? we're almost to 1

Re: slackpocalypse?

unable to connect to clojurians (by cellphone) > for about 30 minutes, but i can connect to other slack groups. > > have we hit https://github.com/clojurians/clojurians-chat/wiki/ > Slackpocalypse? we're almost to 10K subscribers. > > g > > > -- You received this me

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have we hit > https://github.com/clojurians/clojurians-chat/wiki/Slackpocalypse? we're > almost to 10K subscribers. > > g > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to c

slackpocalypse?

is it just me? i've been unable to connect to clojurians (by cellphone) for about 30 minutes, but i can connect to other slack groups. have we hit https://github.com/clojurians/clojurians-chat/wiki/Slackpocalypse? we're almost to 10K subscribers. g -- You received this message becau