Re: New meeting time + call for agenda items

2014-03-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sat, Mar 08, 2014 at 09:43:21AM +0900, Sandro red Mathys wrote: > Well, that's 11 PM for me, with school the next morning - so I will > sometimes be able to make it and sometimes not. We'll try to make good minutes with liberal #infos, and also to make sure we have list-based discussion like th

Cloud accounts for testing purposes?

2014-03-07 Thread Sandro "red" Mathys
To implement the new products, at least every "tailored image"-change owner will require a cloud account somewhere. How do we get those? We do have a tenant in the HP Cloud that is free of charges, right? How are users added to it? Thanks, Sandro ___ cl

Re: New meeting time + call for agenda items

2014-03-07 Thread Sandro "red" Mathys
On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 4:10 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > Hi all, > > OK, the votes are in and it looks like the least-bad time for meetings right > now are 14:00 UTC on Thursdays. I think we were missing a few votes, though, > so I hope this time will work for the most people. > > Please send me an

Re: New meeting time + call for agenda items

2014-03-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 01:10:58PM -0600, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > OK, the votes are in and it looks like the least-bad time for > meetings right now are 14:00 UTC on Thursdays. I think we were > missing a few votes, though, so I hope this time will work for the > most people. > Please send me any a

New meeting time + call for agenda items

2014-03-07 Thread Joe Brockmeier
Hi all, OK, the votes are in and it looks like the least-bad time for meetings right now are 14:00 UTC on Thursdays. I think we were missing a few votes, though, so I hope this time will work for the most people. Please send me any agenda items by Monday afternoon and I will send out a meeti

Re: Modular Kernel Packaging for Cloud

2014-03-07 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Don Zickus wrote: > On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 09:50:37AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Don Zickus wrote: >> > On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 08:23:15AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: >> >> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 2:16 AM, Sandro "red" Mathys >> >> w

Re: Modular Kernel Packaging for Cloud

2014-03-07 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Don Zickus wrote: > On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 08:23:15AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 2:16 AM, Sandro "red" Mathys >> wrote: >> >>> I think Josh is mostly there. He has 58MB + 5M vmlinuz + >> >>> firmwre. >> >> >> >> Firmware is owned by linux

Re: Modular Kernel Packaging for Cloud

2014-03-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 08:23:56AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > >> So if I'm right and Anaconda needs to be adapted for this, I'm happy > >> to reach out to the Anaconda team on our behalf, if necessary. > > Yeah. We also need to have it not install the kernel (and there's no need to > > mess with a

Re: Modular Kernel Packaging for Cloud

2014-03-07 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 04:28:56PM +0900, Sandro red Mathys wrote: >> What about Anaconda? I guess it does have its own mechanic to >> guarantee a kernel is installed, right? Probably hardcoded as well. >> Since we're going to build future im

Re: Modular Kernel Packaging for Cloud

2014-03-07 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 2:16 AM, Sandro "red" Mathys wrote: >>> I think Josh is mostly there. He has 58MB + 5M vmlinuz + >>> firmwre. >> >> Firmware is owned by linux-firmware, not the kernel package. I didn't >> include it in my kernel numbers for that reason. >> >>> He just has to cut 35MB or

Re: Automatic Smoketests for the Cloud Images: What to Test?

2014-03-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 07:46:28PM +0900, Sandro red Mathys wrote: > That's why I was a bit confused to find there's actually 3 systems. > Collaboration is certainly great, but that's not how it's done so > let's try to improve on this. Speaking without any sort of officialness, I think the split

Re: Modular Kernel Packaging for Cloud

2014-03-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 04:28:56PM +0900, Sandro red Mathys wrote: > What about Anaconda? I guess it does have its own mechanic to > guarantee a kernel is installed, right? Probably hardcoded as well. > Since we're going to build future images with ImageFactory/Anaconda, > it must be possible to in

Re: Fedora Atomic and Docker Host Image [was Re: Docker Host Image: Requirements?]

2014-03-07 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 4:42 AM, Sandro red Mathys wrote: Sorry, missing something here. What would I need that code for? I was actually thinking about writing something like: Yep, that code is just the JS implementation of the shell script you posted. Hm, does Anaconda write the bootload

Re: Automatic Smoketests for the Cloud Images: What to Test?

2014-03-07 Thread Vitaly Kuznetsov
"Sandro \"red\" Mathys" writes: > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:32 PM, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote: >>> So we have the RedHatQE tests, Taskotron and CentOS's CI. Can anyone >>> of the people involved (at the Red Hat side, I guess) well me why we >>> have 3 systems for 1 task? >> >> (my personal opinion) I

Re: Automatic Smoketests for the Cloud Images: What to Test?

2014-03-07 Thread Sandro "red" Mathys
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 3:50 AM, Frankie wrote: > I would love to assist with this. > Kindly let me know how I can be of best use. Frankie, if you feel up to it, helping with the Taskotron development as mentioned in the first post would be highly appreciated. See also Tim Flink's post (the one ri

Re: Automatic Smoketests for the Cloud Images: What to Test?

2014-03-07 Thread Sandro "red" Mathys
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:32 PM, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote: >> So we have the RedHatQE tests, Taskotron and CentOS's CI. Can anyone >> of the people involved (at the Red Hat side, I guess) well me why we >> have 3 systems for 1 task? > > (my personal opinion) I think we rather have plenty of tasks, no

Re: Automatic Smoketests for the Cloud Images: What to Test?

2014-03-07 Thread Vitaly Kuznetsov
"Sandro \"red\" Mathys" writes: > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote: >> "Sandro \"red\" Mathys" writes: >> >>> Heads-up: I've taken ownership for the external need "Automatic >>> Smoketests on Image Build" [0] >>> >>> Testing an image takes time and resources, and with seve

Re: Automatic Smoketests for the Cloud Images: What to Test?

2014-03-07 Thread Sandro "red" Mathys
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote: > "Sandro \"red\" Mathys" writes: > >> Heads-up: I've taken ownership for the external need "Automatic >> Smoketests on Image Build" [0] >> >> Testing an image takes time and resources, and with several images, it >> takes several times that

Re: Fedora Atomic and Docker Host Image [was Re: Docker Host Image: Requirements?]

2014-03-07 Thread Sandro "red" Mathys
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:45 PM, Colin Walters wrote: > On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Sandro red Mathys > wrote: > > - Create image using ImageFactory (and initialize ostree in %post) > > > This is possible, but in the realm of options which range from: > > 1) Hack up current rpm-ostree direct

Re: Automatic Smoketests for the Cloud Images: What to Test?

2014-03-07 Thread Vitaly Kuznetsov
"Sandro \"red\" Mathys" writes: > Heads-up: I've taken ownership for the external need "Automatic > Smoketests on Image Build" [0] > > Testing an image takes time and resources, and with several images, it > takes several times that. Since that simply doesn't scale - well, > doesn't even work wel