Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-13 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On 03/13/2015 02:04 PM, Michael P. McGrath wrote: I get that there are several offerings that Fedora has, I don't feel compelled to list them all on projectatomic.io to people who likely won't have the information to make an informed decision anyway. We pick one for them, give a few word

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-13 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On 03/13/2015 02:20 PM, Michael P. McGrath wrote: Perhaps we're already aligned then. What would Fedora pick as its 'best' Atomic release and how often does it get released? Not exclusively my call, of course, but I would choose the rapid-release version over a version that follows the

dnf migration period

2015-03-13 Thread Mike Ruckman
Greetings fellow cloudies! This bug (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1201655) spawned a conversation on IRC that we thought should be moved here to the list. With the migration from yum to dnf in full swing, we've got to figure out what the intent translates to regarding packages

Re: dnf migration period

2015-03-13 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Friday, March 13, 2015 03:05:37 PM David Gay wrote: - Original Message - From: Mike Ruckman ro...@fedoraproject.org To: Fedora Cloud SIG cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 11:29:28 AM Subject: dnf migration period Greetings fellow cloudies!

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-13 Thread Michael P. McGrath
- Original Message - From: Joe Brockmeier j...@redhat.com To: Michael P. McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com, Fedora Cloud SIG cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 1:16:41 PM Subject: Re: Atomic 2 week releases On 03/13/2015 02:04 PM, Michael P. McGrath wrote: I

Re: dnf migration period

2015-03-13 Thread David Gay
- Original Message - From: Mike Ruckman ro...@fedoraproject.org To: Fedora Cloud SIG cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 11:29:28 AM Subject: dnf migration period Greetings fellow cloudies! This bug (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1201655)

Re: dnf migration period

2015-03-13 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 03:53:06PM -0400, Dusty Mabe wrote: Either way Fedora as a whole should take a consistent approach. I think if we deliberately add yum to our kickstart then the other products should do the same (even if it is currently being brought in by a dependency in some products

Re: dnf migration period

2015-03-13 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
For cloud images I don't have a problem with dnf-only or dnf-plus-yum. But for a *Docker* image having both dnf and yum or both python2 and python3 is going to be a nightmare for me - the base images will be too big. I'm guessing it's too late in the F22 release cycle for major changes on the

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-13 Thread Ian McLeod
On 03/13/2015 02:58 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 02:26:42PM -0400, Joe Brockmeier wrote: We are on the hook for an Atomic Host release for F22, but I think I'd rather message why we're putting our weight behind a rapid-release host based on Fedora than dealing with two

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-13 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 05:13:29PM -0400, Michael P. McGrath wrote: - Original Message - From: Ian McLeod imcl...@fedoraproject.org To: cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 4:08:46 PM Subject: Re: Atomic 2 week releases On 03/13/2015 02:58 PM, Matthew

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-13 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 02:26:42PM -0400, Joe Brockmeier wrote: We are on the hook for an Atomic Host release for F22, but I think I'd rather message why we're putting our weight behind a rapid-release host based on Fedora than dealing with two competing Fedora-based offerings. Has the spinner

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-13 Thread Michael P. McGrath
- Original Message - From: Ian McLeod imcl...@fedoraproject.org To: cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 4:08:46 PM Subject: Re: Atomic 2 week releases On 03/13/2015 02:58 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 02:26:42PM -0400, Joe Brockmeier

2015-03-16 @ 1600 UTC ** Fedora Blocker Review

2015-03-13 Thread Mike Ruckman
# F22 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2015-03-16 # Time: 1600 UTC # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net It's coming up to that time of the week again: Blocker Review! Currently we have 5/1 proposed blockers for Beta and Final. Again, we're meeting at 1600 UTC right after the QA