Re: NetworkManager and network services both enabled in Fedora Atomic

2015-03-19 Thread Matthew Miller
d, which is a big win in runtime memory use. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Non-atomic Vagrant images?

2015-03-19 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 03:54:24PM -0400, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > I think Matthew Miller said he added the kickstart file, need to see > what else needs to be done there. Someone needs to test that it works, and make any needed changes. That someone _might_ be me, but if we want it befor

Re: Non-atomic Vagrant images?

2015-03-19 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 04:19:33PM -0600, Derek Carter wrote: > >On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 03:54:24PM -0400, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > >>I think Matthew Miller said he added the kickstart file, need to see > >>what else needs to be done there. > >Someone needs to te

Re: Non-atomic Vagrant images?

2015-03-24 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 08:41:55PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > >>I think Matthew Miller said he added the kickstart file, need to see > > >>what else needs to be done there. > > >Someone needs to test that it works, and make any needed changes. > > Sen

Re: Password policy changes

2015-03-24 Thread Matthew Miller
ins overrode > the upstream default, there'd only be one). I won't speak for everyone, but I *think* the general cloud attitude here is to use private/public keys and certificate-based auth instead of passwords in any case. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader _

Atomic 2 Week Proposal

2015-03-25 Thread Matthew Miller
rather than some other Linux base? -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Note: Atomic Host integration for F22 at risk

2015-03-26 Thread Matthew Miller
it a lack of someone to make and test the needed changes? -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject

Re: Note: Atomic Host integration for F22 at risk

2015-03-26 Thread Matthew Miller
anything > in Microsoft support forums. I don't know about Microsoft, but Atomic aims to be a lot more than just a "boot to docker" platform, including application orchestration. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud

Re: Atomic 2 Week Proposal

2015-03-26 Thread Matthew Miller
ll continue to be. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Note: Atomic Host integration for F22 at risk

2015-03-26 Thread Matthew Miller
and forth as appropriate without much hassle). And of course, with my employer's hat on, if you want certification and support, RHEL Atomic is always there for you (on a still fast but even more conservative cycle). -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader __

Re: Atomic 2 Week Proposal

2015-03-27 Thread Matthew Miller
on on that issue? Yep, fair enough -- sorry for thread hijack. :) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fed

Re: Finally missing eth0 issue is resolved

2015-03-30 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 10:54:24PM +0530, Kushal Das wrote: > The latest nightly build[1] passed through Tunir, without the missing > eth0 issue[2]. > [1] http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=9359447 > [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1204612 Nice! -- Ma

Re: Non-atomic Vagrant images?

2015-03-31 Thread Matthew Miller
es, I can test them today. Did anyone get a chance to do anything here? I know last week was a busy week. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Non-atomic Vagrant images?

2015-04-01 Thread Matthew Miller
nks for the update. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Cloud netinstall disk?

2015-04-07 Thread Matthew Miller
the edition-specific Anaconda to include most of that configuration is a future work item (that I don't think anyone is working on actively) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.

Re: Starting the Talking Points for F22

2015-04-07 Thread Matthew Miller
ase? -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Starting the Talking Points for F22

2015-04-07 Thread Matthew Miller
of the planned every-two-week releases, and as "graduating" from the cloud umbrella, or about its at-F22 state and as a Cloud SIG/WG output? -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https:

Re: Starting the Talking Points for F22

2015-04-07 Thread Matthew Miller
tty nifty, and I think fits with our overall Fedora-for-developers story. Because as much as we'd like to get all software devs running Fedora on their desktops, a lot, lot more are running Windows. So, whichever way we can get in, we should. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader __

Re: Starting the Talking Points for F22

2015-04-07 Thread Matthew Miller
; https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/84. Good call. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-04-08 Thread Matthew Miller
hat I'm focused on. I need a good story. :) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: [atomic-devel] Atomic 2 week releases

2015-04-08 Thread Matthew Miller
different thing compared to the other types of projects the > trademark guidelines are addressing. Agreed! -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinf

Re: Starting the Talking Points for F22

2015-04-14 Thread Matthew Miller
> opportunity to use a Fedora-based Atomic Host and gives our developers > the ability to move fast and break things if needed." That works for me. Any volunteers for actually working on making http://atomic.fedoraproject.org/? -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader _

Re: Starting the Talking Points for F22

2015-04-14 Thread Matthew Miller
is updated-every-two-weeks Fedora Atomic to its slower-moving downstreams, but as I understand the plan, on a _much_ faster timeframe. So, it's great to be involved at both levels. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list c

Re: Starting the Talking Points for F22

2015-04-14 Thread Matthew Miller
lower-moving than a full > release every two weeks. A full release every Fedora release is ideal > but since that's been ruled out, the next best thing is a CentOS > Atomic that tracks RHEL Atomic. It's not completely ruled out; we're just not feeling ready for it y

atomic and getfedora

2015-04-15 Thread Matthew Miller
r/). This could either be blocks on the right-side bar, or horizontal stripey panels in keeping with the new design. If this sounds good to people, I can start the conversation with the web team. The initial Atomic page will probably look basically like the Dock

Re: atomic and getfedora

2015-04-15 Thread Matthew Miller
d/download/ > > could become a little less maze-like. > I'm in favor; who can help make this happen? I think it's mostly the web team... maybe design. Everything _behind_ that basically stays the same. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader _

Re: Screen in F22 Atomic?

2015-04-17 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 02:45:25AM -0400, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > Did I miss something, or when did we decide to add "screen"? IIRC that > was discussed and rejected, as we already provide tmux. +1 to just tmux -- Matthew Miller Fedor

Re: Screen in F22 Atomic?

2015-04-17 Thread Matthew Miller
needing cloud-init or grubby. For host images, I think the best approach might be to make a minimal python package (possibly a parallel one rather than splitting the existing one) with _just_ the modules installed needed to run those programs. Right now, IDLE and 2to3 a significant portion of the pyt

Re: Draft for post for Cloud test day.

2015-05-07 Thread Matthew Miller
dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/22_TC1/Docker/x86_64/. > > 1. Will there be newer media by Test Day? > I think for now those are the latest pieces of media we are going to > use. FWIW, there's a TC2 Docker https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/22_TC2/Docker/x86_64/

Polishing the F22 Cloud talking points [was Re: Starting the Talking Points for F22]

2015-05-13 Thread Matthew Miller
lking points when they're at events (etc.), and for > anybody who's talking to press about the F22 release. Hey everyone! Any progress / ideas for this? The cloud section needs some help! -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___

Re: Docker mysterious behavior in F22

2015-05-17 Thread Matthew Miller
e a blocker since atomic is nonblocking.) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Docker mysterious behavior in F22

2015-05-17 Thread Matthew Miller
so it can be proposed as > a freezeexception? Yes -- otherwise it won't get included in the composes and will be shipped as a zero-day update. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fed

AMI ids for F22 final RC2?

2015-05-21 Thread Matthew Miller
I know these are in fedmsg somewhere or something, but for testers' convenience, what are the AMI ids for RC2? -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/ma

Re: Final RC2 AMIs

2015-05-21 Thread Matthew Miller
loud-Base-22-20150521 for (pending) RC3... -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Test day bug: Atomic and nfs-utils

2015-05-21 Thread Matthew Miller
of >the world ... making this less embarrassing by using to emphasize the two-week images coming up. And then actually figuring out how to make that happen and do it. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud maili

Re: Test day bug: Atomic and nfs-utils

2015-05-21 Thread Matthew Miller
Let's figure out how to give ourselves this option in the future. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

basic plan for two-week atomic images

2015-05-21 Thread Matthew Miller
or hold older Docker version for some reasons. (Up for discussion — that's why this is in phase 3!) 11. More what else? Does this seem basically sane and in line with what people are expecting? What's missing? What's extra? What's just wrong? :) -

Re: basic plan for two-week atomic images

2015-05-21 Thread Matthew Miller
ld be good. making rawhide more of a place to be, for > me should be our goal. get the new awesome things in there and used > by people, leave the stable releases stable The concern I'm hearing is that rawhide is hard to develop on, because parts other than what you're working on

Re: basic plan for two-week atomic images

2015-05-21 Thread Matthew Miller
s conversation go a couple of rounds and then (after the F22 release and associated everything calms down) drawing some diagrams seems like a great idea. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedo

Re: Test day bug: Atomic and nfs-utils

2015-05-21 Thread Matthew Miller
fundamental update model, unless the updates you need are built in, you have to have an update+reboot built into the deployment cycle. I think, really, the NFS thing is just an example -- the two-week updates are going to be important. -- Matthew Mille

Re: Fedora.next PRD refresh

2015-06-02 Thread Matthew Miller
rticular had moved far from its > original PRD). We decided to keep that plan and adjust the future. And, yeah, it's really too late to be putting more demands on this year's Flock. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader _

Re: Fedora 22 is out, Fedora 23 is coming :)

2015-06-04 Thread Matthew Miller
on stack from the cloud image.* Having a better We need to talk to Peter Jones about plans to rewrite grubby in Python. I'm very sympathetic to his wish to have it no longer be in C, but if we _really_ are moving to getting python out -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader __

Re: Fedora 22 is out, Fedora 23 is coming :)

2015-06-04 Thread Matthew Miller
ar the reasoning > behind it. I think because it's one of the biggest and most complex things in minimal. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Fedora 22 is out, Fedora 23 is coming :)

2015-06-04 Thread Matthew Miller
oesn't exist today. But in order to be really useful unless they're all-in on Fedora, many people will want the python version for their infrastructure/environment, not whichever python we happen to ship in a given release. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader

Re: Fedora 22 is out, Fedora 23 is coming :)

2015-06-04 Thread Matthew Miller
ffer a very lightweight image — minimal + provisioning utils like cloud-init — and then language stacks via SCLs. Adding those was where the utility was supposed to come from. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lis

Re: how are the vagrant boxes created?

2015-06-09 Thread Matthew Miller
tp://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=9832786 -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Fedora 22 is out, Fedora 23 is coming :)

2015-06-11 Thread Matthew Miller
ht include various ansible-ready or puppet-ready images, possibly with other tools installed as fits the use case. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/l

Re: Fedora 22 is out, Fedora 23 is coming :)

2015-06-11 Thread Matthew Miller
t in Cloud, I'd rather see an image that > is flexible with utilities for people to customize and build on top of > even if that means it isn't the tiniest, thinnest image out there. Oh, it won't be. The tiniest, thinnest images are in the 10MB range. -- Matthew Miller Fedor

Re: Fedora 22 is out, Fedora 23 is coming :)

2015-06-11 Thread Matthew Miller
x27;t think too much choice is a problem here. See for example the success of <https://bitnami.com/stacks>, which is a similar idea. And churn -- well, we have other initiatives aimed at modulating that. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader _

Re: Fedora 22 is out, Fedora 23 is coming :)

2015-06-11 Thread Matthew Miller
he fly for someone to download. That seems a Sure -- that's one of the approaches we've discussed. > > well, we have other initiatives aimed at modulating that. > Such as? Such as the modularization effort we just approved in the council? -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Lea

Re: Fedora 22 is out, Fedora 23 is coming :)

2015-06-11 Thread Matthew Miller
n Fedora". But it sounds like you mean "cloud computing world overall changing really fast"? -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Fedora 22 is out, Fedora 23 is coming :)

2015-06-11 Thread Matthew Miller
nts. You might be the right person to talk to about figuring out if we can do anything about this. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Fedora 22 is out, Fedora 23 is coming :)

2015-06-11 Thread Matthew Miller
rgely, addressing the more traditional server model, where each machine serves a unique purposes and is carefully maintained. Fedora Cloud is addressing the emerging cloud computing world, and provides a base for deploying scale-out applications. -- Matthew Mil

Re: Fedora 22 is out, Fedora 23 is coming :)

2015-06-11 Thread Matthew Miller
eat or EC2 console) > slightly faster isn't an advantage if I then lose more time installing > packages over the network, creating a new image to then start using as my > baseline. Agreed — that's where the idea of having a dozen or so images preconfigured with popular runtimes m

Re: Fedora 22 is out, Fedora 23 is coming :)

2015-06-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 04:48:37PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > Agreed — that's where the idea of having a dozen or so images > preconfigured with popular runtimes makes sense. But an image with > _all_ the runtimes doesn't. And that said: if we _do_ decide to make Fedora

Re: basic plan for two-week atomic images

2015-06-12 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 11:11:51AM -0400, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > I, for one, care a lot - but have been buried. Sorry. Yeah, ditto. There was this whole F22 release thing that happened. :) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mail

Re: basic plan for two-week atomic images

2015-06-15 Thread Matthew Miller
's own product then it should exist slightly differently such that > it has it's own set of koji tags, inherits from $current, but > subplants the components it needs. This would however be a massive > shift because as it turns out that is something that's

Re: Fedora 22 is out, Fedora 23 is coming :)

2015-06-15 Thread Matthew Miller
> make the rework we did in f22 pointless and wasted and we've already > had that discussion.) H -- what about making linux-firmware a Requires(Pre) for kernel-modules instead of kernel-core? -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___

Re: basic plan for two-week atomic images

2015-06-15 Thread Matthew Miller
r layered images" issue — that wasn't on _this_ list but perhaps needs to be. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fe

Re: Fedora 22 is out, Fedora 23 is coming :)

2015-06-16 Thread Matthew Miller
ens I think > you get a warning anytime you use yum/dnf. In this case, since it's only a Requires(pre), RPM doesn't mind. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedora

Re: Fedora 22 is out, Fedora 23 is coming :)

2015-06-16 Thread Matthew Miller
transaction. It'd be nice to avoid the network traffic. I'm assuming here that the kernel update itself will act gracefully if the package isn't there. That's not actually a tested assumption. :) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___

draft of Every-two-week Fedora Atomic Host change proposal

2015-06-16 Thread Matthew Miller
e. If people here think something else would be better, that's fine with me!) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: using fstrim to save some space in cloud images

2015-06-17 Thread Matthew Miller
s failing in the image build process. I don't remember the current state. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of

Re: draft of Every-two-week Fedora Atomic Host change proposal

2015-06-18 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 07:46:14PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Two_Week_Atomic Now updated based on some feedback and with a schematic of how I envision the build→test→release→present process working. If anything in that looks wrong, let's fix i

Testing Docker images (and possibly other cloud images) in CentOS CI

2015-07-02 Thread Matthew Miller
next step specifically listed as out of scope for the change itself. <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Layered_Docker_Image_Build_Service> -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https:

Re: Testing Docker images (and possibly other cloud images) in CentOS CI

2015-07-02 Thread Matthew Miller
I know that Docker changed "trusted" to "automated", because they're not actually offering any claim to trust through this feature. Is there a way we could structure it differently to get any similar benefit? -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader

Re: Testing Docker images (and possibly other cloud images) in CentOS CI

2015-07-02 Thread Matthew Miller
nto various components — or in fact could be the basis of an initial immediate set. What do you think? Another thing of note: we could talk with Infrastructure about adding Pagure support to all the new dist-git repos, so they'd all have a web based

Re: Testing Docker images (and possibly other cloud images) in CentOS CI

2015-07-02 Thread Matthew Miller
now's the time to think about it, since it seems likely that we want a separate namespace anyway. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/c

Re: Cloud image use cases

2015-07-10 Thread Matthew Miller
. Removing Python from that image would be a serious curveball > since most people expect to have Python available on any system > running yum/dnf. Yeah, I'm willing to back down on wanting to remove Python. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader _

Re: Cloud image use cases

2015-07-10 Thread Matthew Miller
those to Amazon, etc., and this could serve as the generic building-block cloud image people want. It'd probably be bigger, but that's okay because we'd know _why_. (And I hope with the improvements we're making on size in general

Re: Cloud image use cases

2015-07-10 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 02:30:43PM -0400, Matt Micene wrote: > So we are currently the smallest uploaded AMI and consuming the least > amount of available space in base, current version, community AMIs. Now there's a quote. :) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Pro

Re: Cloud image use cases

2015-07-14 Thread Matthew Miller
mic" Workstation, with "Atomic" in quotes - unless there's a lot of change in both projects, think it'd be more confusing than not to actually call it that. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@list

Re: Maintaining Fedora-Dockerfiles

2015-07-23 Thread Matthew Miller
g akin to dist-git for dockerfiles (part of https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Layered_Docker_Image_Build_Service), this makes perfect sense. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.

Re: F23 talking points draft

2015-08-04 Thread Matthew Miller
there be something about GCC in this set of talking points? Yes. :) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: F23 talking points draft

2015-08-04 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 01:49:57PM +0200, Gabriele Trombini wrote: > Hi all, > as usual marketing team drafted the talking points page [1]. This is great — thanks! -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list

Re: Fedora Atomic Web site

2015-08-12 Thread Matthew Miller
eah grab me if possible. :) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Local DNSSEC resolver and Fedora cloud

2015-08-12 Thread Matthew Miller
ml > > Could we please have your(cloud-WG) consent to enable this feature on the > > Fedora > > cloud variant? > Hello...!?! Many people are at Flock this week. Please have patience. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud

Re: using fstrim to save some space in cloud images

2015-08-13 Thread Matthew Miller
ng about this thread. :) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: [DISCUSS] Making Atomic the cloud edition

2015-08-19 Thread Matthew Miller
loud Base Image, and list their names somewhere. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: [DISCUSS] Making Atomic the cloud edition

2015-08-19 Thread Matthew Miller
ot;Other Downloads" section of <https://getfedora.org/en/cloud/download/>, introduced like this: "Looking for a plain, non-Atomic image optimized for cloud environments? Download Fedora Cloud Base Image: [...]" -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader __

Re: [DISCUSS] Making Atomic the cloud edition

2015-08-19 Thread Matthew Miller
ply: each download may correspond to one instantiation to try it out, or none at all, or a million. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora C

Re: [DISCUSS] Making Atomic the cloud edition

2015-08-19 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 02:59:00PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > qcow2 downloads are roughly half-and-half. I don't have stats for > ec2-click-to-launch (because I forgot to ask for them.) And, the This is averaging a little more than 10 a day, combined base and atomic. That's af

Re: nightly fedora 22 composes

2015-09-02 Thread Matthew Miller
info like kernel version, docker version, kubernetes, version etc. *nod* That sounds great. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedo

PRD and Atomic

2015-09-10 Thread Matthew Miller
selecting cloud as a target focus in the first place, I think this is a good move. But let's do the process. :) (Apologies if this was already discussed in IRC or somewhere... I didn't see any mail about it so I figured I'd kick this off.) -- Ma

Two-Week Atomic actual deliverables

2015-09-10 Thread Matthew Miller
roach would be to outline the testing level for each image type in the paragraph right above the download (or launch) link. But that seems like it might be too much text. What do you think? -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list

Re: cloud Digest, Vol 69, Issue 10

2015-09-10 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 11:38:24AM -0500, Zack Cylinder wrote: > Alkjsadflkajdflkasjfalsjfaefjwlak Zack, cat got your keyboard? -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org ht

Re: Two-Week Atomic actual deliverables

2015-09-10 Thread Matthew Miller
he > automated pipeline is churning out in the Fedora 24 time frame but for > now this is probably best. My hope is that in that time frame, we can make it simple for contributors to add tests — that's an easy way to make a meaningful contribution. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader __

Re: Two-Week Atomic actual deliverables

2015-09-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 01:02:10PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > * Vagrant boxes: > - same tunir-based test suite in VM environemnt Followup! Kushal points out that we are testing the KVM vagrant images in this way, but not testing VirtualBox. (Because we don't have VirtualBox i

Re: Two-Week Atomic actual deliverables

2015-09-11 Thread Matthew Miller
didate vagrant images every two weeks. That doesn't seem very sustainable, though. And, kind of by design, it's likely that the images published will be the ones from the very night before, allowing for a very short window for that kind of testing

Re: Is the text for the *cloud* product on getfedora.org OK?

2015-09-14 Thread Matthew Miller
t/108 With the decision to focus on atomic, we actually have a _lot_ to do here..... -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code o

Re: Is the text for the *cloud* product on getfedora.org OK?

2015-09-14 Thread Matthew Miller
t? I was kind of thinking it _would_ take effect for Fedora 23, but if the Atomic team + releng + cloud WG don't think it's ready, then I guess that's easy. :) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedor

Mo's proposed fedora atomic logo

2015-09-15 Thread Matthew Miller
). Feedback? I think it looks great. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Mo's proposed fedora atomic logo

2015-09-15 Thread Matthew Miller
a little ahead of myself in excitement -- if not everyone is down with this plan, let's figure out what it *should* look like. I hope I'm not actually too far off and that all of the above makes sense. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader

Re: Mo's proposed fedora atomic logo

2015-09-15 Thread Matthew Miller
tory. So, some 80% of my enthusiasm for Fedora Atomic comes simply because it *does* fit that picture so well. (That I also think it's a major step in OS evolution is just... icing on the cake.) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mai

Re: Mo's proposed fedora atomic logo

2015-09-15 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 04:20:36PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > All that said, I may be getting a little ahead of myself in excitement > -- if not everyone is down with this plan, let's figure out what it > *should* look like. I hope I'm not actually too far off and that all o

Re: Mo's proposed fedora atomic logo

2015-09-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 06:45:14PM -0700, Garrett Holmstrom wrote: > On 2015-09-15 11:23, Matthew Miller wrote: > >https://mattdm.fedorapeople.org/misc/newfedoratomiclogomockup.png > I think it looks great! Do we have permission from the Project > Atomic folks to use their logo

Re: Mo's proposed fedora atomic logo

2015-09-16 Thread Matthew Miller
launch page to include guest images for _all_ of the editions and spins which make sense -- cloud base, server, and even xfce (I saw a great demo of this running remotely via x2go at Flock). Again see https://arm.fedoraproject.org/ as a model. -- Matthew Miller Fedora

Re: Beta Announcement Highlights?

2015-09-17 Thread Matthew Miller
om your point of view? (For reference, the Alpha annoucement is https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F23_Alpha_release_announcement.) it's fine, but not super-exciting. Can we do better? -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@li

two-week atomic status update

2015-09-18 Thread Matthew Miller
mages from the general gold compose ("traditional") Plan B: at F23 release, use the images from the traditional compose. Switch to Two-Week images two weeks later. Colin says that the Atomic dev team is good with switching to F23 as the base at F23 release -- no known need to lag. --

Re: Beta Announcement Highlights?

2015-09-18 Thread Matthew Miller
nal polish for the Tuesday announcement. Cloud WG -- still need some more there, though! -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code

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