32 bit AMI registration boot problem: explaination and possible solutions

2014-11-03 Thread David Gay
Hi -- these beta AMIs need to be done today. 64 bit base AMIs have been successfully uploaded, but I *still* haven't nailed the problem with the 32 bit registration method. Or rather, I've isolated the problem, but haven't found a solution. Searching the net has not been going well with this par

Re: 32 bit AMI registration boot problem: explaination and possible solutions

2014-11-03 Thread Andy Grimm
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 2:43 PM, David Gay wrote: > Hi -- these beta AMIs need to be done today. 64 bit base AMIs have been > successfully uploaded, but I *still* haven't nailed the problem with the 32 > bit registration method. Or rather, I've isolated the problem, but haven't > found a solutio

Re: 32 bit AMI registration boot problem: explaination and possible solutions

2014-11-03 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 04:54:33PM -0500, Andy Grimm wrote: > Based on a couple of conversations I found about the Xen hypervisor > and this error message, I believe the issue may be PAE. Have to do > some testing to confirm that. have past versions used a PAE kernel? Yes they have. Are we not g

Re: 32 bit AMI registration boot problem: explaination and possible solutions

2014-11-03 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 05:18:11PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > > Based on a couple of conversations I found about the Xen hypervisor > > and this error message, I believe the issue may be PAE. Have to do > > some testing to confirm that. have past versions used a PAE kernel? > Yes they have. A

Re: 32 bit AMI registration boot problem: explaination and possible solutions

2014-11-03 Thread Mike Ruckman
On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 05:22:36PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > > Nice — we are not. So if this is the problem, I recommend we drop i386 > from EC2 for the beta, and add this to the list of things we need test > candidates for early-ish for final. > > -- > Matthew Miller > > Fedora Project Le

Re: 32 bit AMI registration boot problem: explaination and possible solutions

2014-11-03 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 05:18:11PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: >> > Based on a couple of conversations I found about the Xen hypervisor >> > and this error message, I believe the issue may be PAE. Have to do >> > some testing to confirm tha

Re: 32 bit AMI registration boot problem: explaination and possible solutions

2014-11-03 Thread David Gay
Andy: > > 2. You cannot have an instance that is both 32 bit architecture and > > EBS-optimized. > > "EBS-optimized" is just a storage performance thing, and has nothing > to do with whether the image boots. Yeah, that's fine. What I was saying is simply that there are no instance types in

Re: 32 bit AMI registration boot problem: explaination and possible solutions

2014-11-03 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On 11/03/2014 04:43 PM, David Gay wrote: > I'm with you on that. I don't know many people who use 32 bit cloud > images. 64 bit is available for every EC2 instance type, and like you > said, other services support it. I'm likely not the best person to ask > why we provide 32 bit images, though. It

Re: 32 bit AMI registration boot problem: explaination and possible solutions

2014-11-03 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 03:32:29PM -0700, Mike Ruckman wrote: > The more I think about it - why do we need 32bit AMIs in the first place? > EC2, Openstack, and company all support 64bit OOTB. Is there an instance > where you would pick a 32bit cloud instance *over* a 64bit on? I can't > think of an

Re: 32 bit AMI registration boot problem: explaination and possible solutions

2014-11-03 Thread David Gay
- Original Message - > From: "Joe Brockmeier" > To: cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 2:47:00 PM > Subject: Re: 32 bit AMI registration boot problem: explaination and possible > solutions > > On 11/03/2014 04:43 PM, David Gay

Re: 32 bit AMI registration boot problem: explaination and possible solutions

2014-11-03 Thread Dusty Mabe
On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 04:54:33PM -0500, Andy Grimm wrote: > > yep, and this backs up the idea that it really is a 32-bit kernel > issue, rather than something in your process. > > Based on a couple of conversations I found about the Xen hypervisor > and this error message, I believe the issue m

Re: 32 bit AMI registration boot problem: explaination and possible solutions

2014-11-03 Thread Dusty Mabe
On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 05:53:21PM -0500, David Gay wrote: > - Original Message - > > From: "Joe Brockmeier" > > To: cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org > > Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 2:47:00 PM > > Subject: Re: 32 bit AMI registration boot pr

Re: 32 bit AMI registration boot problem: explaination and possible solutions

2014-11-03 Thread Andy Grimm
, 2014 2:47:00 PM >> > Subject: Re: 32 bit AMI registration boot problem: explaination and >> > possiblesolutions >> > >> > On 11/03/2014 04:43 PM, David Gay wrote: >> > > I'm with you on that. I don't know many people who use 32 bit cloud

Re: 32 bit AMI registration boot problem: explaination and possible solutions

2014-11-03 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 08:41:19PM -0500, Andy Grimm wrote: > Do we have _any_ analytics on usage? (launch stats from AWS, or > unique IPs hitting Fedora mirrors inside AWS, or ...) We might be able to get some mirrormanager stats. But overall... we're pretty short here. Anyway, thanks for look

Re: 32 bit AMI registration boot problem: explaination and possible solutions

2014-11-03 Thread Mike Ruckman
On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 07:25:28PM -0500, Dusty Mabe wrote: > I would love to get rid of the 32bit AMIs. That being said, is this a "knee > jerk" > reaction? Typically it's best to make changes like this with planning > involved > and sufficient notice of the change so the community can prepare

Re: 32 bit AMI registration boot problem: explaination and possible solutions

2014-11-04 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On 11/03/2014 11:51 PM, Mike Ruckman wrote: > On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 07:25:28PM -0500, Dusty Mabe wrote: >> I would love to get rid of the 32bit AMIs. That being said, is this a "knee >> jerk" >> reaction? Typically it's best to make changes like this with planning >> involved >> and sufficien

Re: 32 bit AMI registration boot problem: explaination and possible solutions

2014-11-04 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 07:41:27AM -0600, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > Do we have any way of seeing how many people actually use the 32-bit AMI > on AWS? Unfortunately, not really. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.