On 12/03/14 02:57, Steven Dake wrote:
On 03/11/2014 05:09 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 07:46:11PM -0700, Steven Dake wrote:
I think what is needed is two things a) a general purpose guest
image b) a tidy host image. We don't want to threaten our
guest-image by making it
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 11:48:52PM +, Colin Walters wrote:
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 5:17 PM, James Slagle jsla...@redhat.com wrote:
How is it incompatible with packaging? The read only root support that
already exists in Fedora today is what would be used.
In that /etc
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org wrote:
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 8:26 PM, Steven Dake sd...@redhat.com wrote:
If these are removed from a guest operating system, the guest won't be able
to function with TripleO, Heat, or anyone that depends on cloud-init.
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 07:46:11PM -0700, Steven Dake wrote:
I think what is needed is two things a) a general purpose guest
image b) a tidy host image. We don't want to threaten our
guest-image by making it non-general purpose. The host-image can be
I think some key context may have been
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 02:49:14AM +, Collins, Robert (Converged Cloud)
wrote:
+1 on the overall message there, but let me also note that Ubuntu has a
far smaller base image which still includes Python. Seems like there is
likely plenty of fat elsewhere that can be pulled out if smaller is
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Matthew Miller
mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 02:49:14AM +, Collins, Robert (Converged Cloud)
wrote:
+1 on the overall message there, but let me also note that Ubuntu has a
far smaller base image which still includes Python. Seems
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 08:41:42AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
Since isn't the only driver for the kernel work you're doing either, I don't
s/Since/Size/
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On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 08:56:50AM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
Since isn't the only driver for the kernel work you're doing either, I
don't think. Another big advantage is that the modularized drivers will
allow us to skip out-of-schedule updates for security updates in the
driver package.
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 05:26:27PM -0700, Steven Dake wrote:
On 03/10/2014 04:32 PM, Sandro red Mathys wrote:
Just noticed that removing Python would obviously also mean no
heat-cfntools. Do we want to accept that (if we go with remove-python
at all)?
Starting to wonder a bit how users are
On 03/11/2014 05:09 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 07:46:11PM -0700, Steven Dake wrote:
I think what is needed is two things a) a general purpose guest
image b) a tidy host image. We don't want to threaten our
guest-image by making it non-general purpose. The host-image can
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 06:57:13AM -0700, Steven Dake wrote:
After speaking with Steve Baker last night, we discussed
transitioning off cloud-init as a possibility. What we are
considering transitioning to is the os-*-* python tools. The
general idea is these tools would replace cloud-init
On 03/11/2014 07:11 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 06:57:13AM -0700, Steven Dake wrote:
After speaking with Steve Baker last night, we discussed
transitioning off cloud-init as a possibility. What we are
considering transitioning to is the os-*-* python tools. The
general
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 9:33 AM, James Slagle jsla...@redhat.com
wrote:
There are 2 image upgrade paths being pursued by TripleO. In both
cases, the
end goal is to have your instances running with a read-only root
partition
and your stateful data you need preserved mounted on a separate
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 04:14:33PM +, Colin Walters wrote:
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 9:33 AM, James Slagle jsla...@redhat.com wrote:
There are 2 image upgrade paths being pursued by TripleO. In both cases,
the end goal is to have your instances running with a read-only root
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 5:17 PM, James Slagle jsla...@redhat.com
wrote:
How is it incompatible with packaging? The read only root support that
already exists in Fedora today is what would be used.
In that /etc and /var are read-only. Now you're right, there is
read-only root which makes
Just noticed that removing Python would obviously also mean no
heat-cfntools. Do we want to accept that (if we go with remove-python
at all)?
Starting to wonder a bit how users are supposed to use Docker. What
other mechanisms do we have to actually run a container with Docker
once the image is
On 03/10/2014 04:32 PM, Sandro red Mathys wrote:
Just noticed that removing Python would obviously also mean no
heat-cfntools. Do we want to accept that (if we go with remove-python
at all)?
Starting to wonder a bit how users are supposed to use Docker. What
other mechanisms do we have to
On 03/10/2014 06:35 PM, Colin Walters wrote:
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 8:26 PM, Steven Dake sd...@redhat.com wrote:
If these are removed from a guest operating system, the guest won't
be able to function with TripleO, Heat, or anyone that depends on
cloud-init. Removing cloud-init support
Myers
Subject: Re: Fedora Atomic and Docker Host Image [was Re: Docker Host Image:
Requirements?]
On 03/10/2014 06:35 PM, Colin Walters wrote:
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 8:26 PM, Steven Dake
sd...@redhat.commailto:sd...@redhat.com wrote:
If these are removed from a guest operating system, the guest
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:22 PM, Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org wrote:
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 4:42 AM, Sandro red Mathys r...@fedoraproject.org
wrote:
Sorry, missing something here. What would I need that code for? I was
actually thinking about writing something like:
Yep, that code is
I know this isn't the place for this, but since I can't get my e-mail addresses
in order, can anyone help me with a small problem?
I am trying to boot my F20 security essentials, however due to the antiquated
Unetbootin I am using, I can only get my flash drive working with versions F19
and
- How does one activate the deployed product if extlinux is the active
bootloader? The website has only instructions for GRUB (bls_import,
etc).
Ah, you probably hit this:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=726007
This is also related:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=722845
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 4:42 AM, Sandro red Mathys
r...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Sorry, missing something here. What would I need that code for? I was
actually thinking about writing something like:
Yep, that code is just the JS implementation of the shell script you
posted.
Hm, does
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Sandro red Mathys
r...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
I agree it's a nice model but wouldn't set N to a very high value.
Right, I agree with that. In the same way that going to a restaurant
with 500 menu items is overwhelming.
Also, I worry a bit about the QA
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 8:30 PM, Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org wrote:
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Sandro red Mathys r...@fedoraproject.org
wrote:
Short answer: Yes, I think so. Longer answer: It varies a bit. Most of the
core design has been implemented for ~1.5 years, and I and others
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Sandro red Mathys
r...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
- Create image using ImageFactory (and initialize ostree in %post)
This is possible, but in the realm of options which range from:
1) Hack up current rpm-ostree direct .qcow2 generation code
2) ImageFactory with
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 03:39:01PM +0900, Sandro red Mathys wrote:
It _could_ be as simple as just shipping with docker and maybe etcd, but
we could make some other changes too. For example, we could drop
cloud-init and just have a minimal metadata service.
Not sure we want to use different
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Matthew Miller
mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
I think it will eventually be pretty useful for servers, although
without a
good layer on top, we would just be, to extend your analogy, forcing
everyone to buy their groceries from a restaurant, and making them
On 03/06/2014 10:42 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 03:39:01PM +0900, Sandro red Mathys wrote:
It _could_ be as simple as just shipping with docker and maybe etcd, but
we could make some other changes too. For example, we could drop
cloud-init and just have a minimal metadata
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Joe Brockmeier j...@redhat.com wrote:
How would this go over for people coming from $other_images that have
cloud-init and expect to use it? If I understand correctly, you're
saying their existing stuff isn't going to work well w/Fedora even if
we
have
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 05:35:41PM +, Colin Walters wrote:
It would require teasing apart some things in the current code, but
quite doable. I think on my priority list this is after Anaconda
and some other things though.
If we want it for F21, FESCo would like to know as soon as
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 10:58:04AM -0600, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
I am half-minded to make the proposal that we drop cloud-init. We haven't
built up a big library of cloud-init examples for Fedora, and once
https://github.com/cgwalters/min-metadata-service/issues/2 is implemented,
we can focus
On 03/06/2014 12:51 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 10:58:04AM -0600, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
I am half-minded to make the proposal that we drop cloud-init. We haven't
built up a big library of cloud-init examples for Fedora, and once
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 12:56:06PM -0600, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
Alternately, here's a crazy idea: the min-metadata service could detect
if userdata is in a syntax it doesn't understand and fire off a helper
script. That helper script could then install and exec cloud-init.
That sounds like it
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 03:18:44PM +0900, Sandro red Mathys wrote:
What else would you expect from the Docker Host Image? This is way too
easy, so kindly tell me what obvious things I'm clearly missing. Apart
from you need to actually make sure an image is built and working...
It _could_ be as
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:53 AM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 03:18:44PM +0900, Sandro red Mathys wrote:
What else would you expect from the Docker Host Image? This is way too
easy, so kindly tell me what obvious things I'm clearly missing. Apart
from
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