Re: ZOMG WHAT ARE WE BUILDING?!

2013-11-07 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 09:28:31AM +0100, Matthias Runge wrote: > Those ARM machines are probably not that common nowadays, but still I > don't think we should exclude an arch right now. If we have the resources to do ARM in addition to other, more immediately relevant targets, then we should be w

Re: ZOMG WHAT ARE WE BUILDING?!

2013-11-07 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 04:58:43PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: > >> I know ubuntu is working on supporting ARM in openstack, I really think > >> we should as well. We should go big or go home. all of this change is > >> about making Fedora bigger and better. This is a avenue we should > >> pursue.

Re: ZOMG WHAT ARE WE BUILDING?!

2013-11-07 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 09:28:31AM +0100, Matthias Runge wrote: > On 11/06/2013 05:58 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: > >>> I know ubuntu is working on supporting ARM in openstack, I really think > >>> we should as well. We should go big or go home. all of this change is > >>> about making Fedora bigger

Re: ZOMG WHAT ARE WE BUILDING?!

2013-11-07 Thread Matthias Runge
On 11/06/2013 05:58 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: >>> I know ubuntu is working on supporting ARM in openstack, I really think >>> we should as well. We should go big or go home. all of this change is >>> about making Fedora bigger and better. This is a avenue we should >>> pursue. while ppc is a second

Re: ZOMG WHAT ARE WE BUILDING?!

2013-11-06 Thread Peter Robinson
>> I know ubuntu is working on supporting ARM in openstack, I really think >> we should as well. We should go big or go home. all of this change is >> about making Fedora bigger and better. This is a avenue we should >> pursue. while ppc is a secondary arch we need to also consider it. >> there is

Re: ZOMG WHAT ARE WE BUILDING?!

2013-11-06 Thread Peter Robinson
>> Agree - lots of situations where 32-bit is preferable, and in many >> cases still the defacto arch. > > It's getting harder and harder to find 32 bit x86 hardware. There's exactly > one use case for 32 bit in the cloud setting (IMO), which dgilmore and I > briefly spoke about after the meeting

Re: ZOMG WHAT ARE WE BUILDING?!

2013-10-31 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:59:00AM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > I know ubuntu is working on supporting ARM in openstack, I really think > we should as well. We should go big or go home. all of this change is > about making Fedora bigger and better. This is a avenue we should > pursue. while ppc i

Re: ZOMG WHAT ARE WE BUILDING?!

2013-10-31 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
wrote: > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > >> From: "David Nalley" > > >> To: "Fedora Cloud SIG" > > >> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 10:02:17 AM > > >> Subject: Re: ZOMG WHAT ARE

Re: ZOMG WHAT ARE WE BUILDING?!

2013-10-31 Thread Dennis Gilmore
Nalley" > >> To: "Fedora Cloud SIG" > >> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 10:02:17 AM > >> Subject: Re: ZOMG WHAT ARE WE BUILDING?! > >> > >> From the peanut gallery, feel free to treat accordingly. > >> > >> On Th

Re: ZOMG WHAT ARE WE BUILDING?!

2013-10-31 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:10:05AM -0400, Sam Kottler wrote: > It's getting harder and harder to find 32 bit x86 hardware. There's > exactly one use case for 32 bit in the cloud setting (IMO), which dgilmore > and I briefly spoke about after the meeting yesterday - extremely memory > constrained en

Re: ZOMG WHAT ARE WE BUILDING?!

2013-10-31 Thread Sandro "red" Mathys
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Sam Kottler wrote: > > > - Original Message - >> From: "David Nalley" >> To: "Fedora Cloud SIG" >> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 10:02:17 AM >> Subject: Re: ZOMG WHAT ARE WE BUILDING?! >>

Re: ZOMG WHAT ARE WE BUILDING?!

2013-10-31 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 31 October 2013 08:10, Sam Kottler wrote: > > > - Original Message - > > From: "David Nalley" > > To: "Fedora Cloud SIG" > > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 10:02:17 AM > > Subject: Re: ZOMG WHAT ARE WE BUILDING?! > >

Re: ZOMG WHAT ARE WE BUILDING?!

2013-10-31 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, On 10/31/2013 03:02 PM, David Nalley wrote: >>> - Should we be targeting ARM? >> >> Now? Maybe. In the future? Probably should, yes. > > From a Cloud perspective, I don't know of a single public cloud using ARM. > There are tons of benefits to using ARM, but I am not seeing > deployments p

Re: ZOMG WHAT ARE WE BUILDING?!

2013-10-31 Thread Sam Kottler
- Original Message - > From: "David Nalley" > To: "Fedora Cloud SIG" > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 10:02:17 AM > Subject: Re: ZOMG WHAT ARE WE BUILDING?! > > From the peanut gallery, feel free to treat accordingly. > > On Thu, Oct 31,

Re: ZOMG WHAT ARE WE BUILDING?!

2013-10-31 Thread David Nalley
From the peanut gallery, feel free to treat accordingly. On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> (For those who weren't in today's IRC meeting, I sorta apologize for the >> subject line. Sorta.) >> >> As we were

Re: ZOMG WHAT ARE WE BUILDING?!

2013-10-31 Thread Haïkel Guémar
Le 30/10/2013 21:30, Joe Brockmeier a écrit : Hi all, (For those who weren't in today's IRC meeting, I sorta apologize for the subject line. Sorta.) As we were discussing today - we need to decide what we are building, and (almost as importantly) what we're not building. We've agreed that we wa

Re: ZOMG WHAT ARE WE BUILDING?!

2013-10-31 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > Hi all, > > (For those who weren't in today's IRC meeting, I sorta apologize for the > subject line. Sorta.) > > As we were discussing today - we need to decide what we are building, > and (almost as importantly) what we're not building. We'

ZOMG WHAT ARE WE BUILDING?!

2013-10-30 Thread Joe Brockmeier
Hi all, (For those who weren't in today's IRC meeting, I sorta apologize for the subject line. Sorta.) As we were discussing today - we need to decide what we are building, and (almost as importantly) what we're not building. We've agreed that we want to be cooperating with the server SIG, but d