RE: Untangaling User Mgmt, Account Mgmt and ACL checking from AccountManagerImpl.

2012-12-20 Thread Likitha Shetty
Manikanta, Check out this FS for API refactoring, https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/CloudStack+API+refactoring. You will find that one of the items is to move ACL code (access checks and roles) from the Service layer i.e. AccountManagerImpl to the API layer. Thank you, L

Re: Untangaling User Mgmt, Account Mgmt and ACL checking from AccountManagerImpl.

2012-12-20 Thread Manikanta Kattamuri
That would take care of ACL related code. What would be the case with User Mgmt and Account Mgmt, can this be seperated to two different Classes/Services. Manikanta. On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Likitha Shetty wrote: > Manikanta, > > Check out this FS for API refactoring, > https://cwiki.ap

RE: [DISCUSS]API request throttling

2012-12-20 Thread Koushik Das
+1 to the idea. Should there be some API to show how many API calls are remaining for a particular user for the given interval? And should this call get counted as well? Currently in UI if you are using wizard to deploy a VM multiple API calls are made but may not be obvious to the user. If the

RE: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts to a domain

2012-12-20 Thread Deepti Dohare
My comments inline... - Deepti -Original Message- From: Anthony Xu Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 12:55 PM To: Deepti Dohare; [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts to a

RE: [DISCUSS]API request throttling

2012-12-20 Thread Ram Ganesh
How do we characterize the behaviour for a UI/self-service portal user? A single UI screen can result anywhere from 1 to N API requests. Would it not lead CloudStack to some inconsistent state? What if the UI configuration spans time duration window? Thanks, RamG > -Original Message- >

RE: [DISCUSS]API request throttling

2012-12-20 Thread Koushik Das
All the APIs are independent so even if some are not allowed due to limit getting reached there shouldn't be any inconsistency in the DB/hypervisors. But this needs to be handled properly in the UI. Thanks, Koushik > -Original Message- > From: Ram Ganesh [mailto:[email protected]] >

Re: [DISCUSS]API request throttling

2012-12-20 Thread Nitin Mehta
On 20-Dec-2012, at 2:18 PM, Koushik Das wrote: > +1 to the idea. > > Should there be some API to show how many API calls are remaining for a > particular user for the given interval? And should this call get counted as > well? Currently in UI if you are using wizard to deploy a VM multiple AP

Re: Review Request: Add annotation for systemVM commands.

2012-12-20 Thread Rohit Yadav
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://reviews.apache.org/r/8693/#review14752 --- Patch did not apply cleanly. Pl. fix your editor, no tabs only whites

RE: Untangaling User Mgmt, Account Mgmt and ACL checking from AccountManagerImpl.

2012-12-20 Thread Likitha Shetty
I am not aware of any plans. Anyone looking into this ? Thank you, Likitha -Original Message- From: Manikanta Kattamuri [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 1:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Untangaling User Mgmt, Account M

Re: Review Request: Add some validation code in the API layer; modify @Validator.

2012-12-20 Thread Rohit Yadav
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://reviews.apache.org/r/8682/#review14753 --- Closing the review as only partial patch was applicable. Rest of the

Re: Review Request: ACL: use the securityChecker for now for the doamin access check for createUSerCmd

2012-12-20 Thread Rohit Yadav
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://reviews.apache.org/r/8691/#review14754 --- Holding review on this one, we may have multiple adapters this patch

Re: Review Request: when a template is deleted and then copied over again , it is still marked as "Removed" in template_zone_ref table.

2012-12-20 Thread Rohit Yadav
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://reviews.apache.org/r/7018/#review14755 --- Was this code applied on master? Pl. check and close the review. - R

Re: Review Request: Make xen.check.hvm a proper parameter

2012-12-20 Thread Rohit Yadav
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://reviews.apache.org/r/5655/#review14756 --- Hugo, is this review still applicable? If not close it or apply a fix

RE: [DISCUSS] Cloudstack to manage User objects in LDAP

2012-12-20 Thread Koushik Das
See inline Thanks, Koushik > -Original Message- > From: Chip Childers [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:18 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Cloudstack to manage User objects in LDAP > > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at

RE: [DISCUSS]API request throttling

2012-12-20 Thread Pranav Saxena
+1 to what Nitin says . Global limits and flexibility to admin is something which is highly desirable . It really gets interesting when you consider that you could further make decisions based on parameters, such as a specific user and the application function when you consider throttling issu

[jira] [Updated] (CLOUDSTACK-683) Image Is Missing in the Accessing VM Section

2012-12-20 Thread Radhika Nair (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-683?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Radhika Nair updated CLOUDSTACK-683: Description: At http://incubator.apache.org/cloudstack/docs/en-US/Apache_CloudStack/4.

[jira] [Created] (CLOUDSTACK-683) Image Is Missing in the Accessing VM Section

2012-12-20 Thread Radhika Nair (JIRA)
Radhika Nair created CLOUDSTACK-683: --- Summary: Image Is Missing in the Accessing VM Section Key: CLOUDSTACK-683 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-683 Project: CloudStack

[jira] [Updated] (CLOUDSTACK-683) Image Is Missing in the Accessing VM Section

2012-12-20 Thread Radhika Nair (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-683?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Radhika Nair updated CLOUDSTACK-683: Description: At http://incubator.apache.org/cloudstack/docs/en-US/Apache_CloudStack/4.

RE: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts to a domain

2012-12-20 Thread Mice Xia
but if further sub-domain is assigned a different pod then it cannot access its parent domain's pod. 2. Sub-domain and its child domains will have the sole access to that new pod. when child domain already has some VMs on parent domain's dedicated pod, is it allowed to assign a pod to the child do

Re: [Discuss] SNMP Alerts support in CloudStack

2012-12-20 Thread Murali Reddy
> >Hey Murali, > >Great to hear about where you stand right now. Is the code (work in >progress obviously) available on one of the branches? I'd love to >take a look at it. > >-chip > Chip I have been using 'events-framework' branch for this work. Please take a look at 'framework/events/src/o

RE: [DISCUSS] Scaling up CPU and RAM for running VMs

2012-12-20 Thread Koushik Das
See inline Thanks, Koushik > -Original Message- > From: Chip Childers [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 7:55 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Scaling up CPU and RAM for running VMs > > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 3:34

RE: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts to a domain

2012-12-20 Thread Deepti Dohare
Hi Mice, Once a new pod is dedicated to the child-domain, deployment of the new VMs will happen only in the new pod. The existing VMs will keep running on parent-domain's pod. Do you have any other suggestion on this. - Deepti > -Original Message- > From: Mice Xia [mailto:weiran.x...@

RE: [DISCUSS] Enabling storage xenmotion on xenserver 6.1

2012-12-20 Thread Devdeep Singh
> -Original Message- > From: Abhinandan Prateek [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:20 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Enabling storage xenmotion on xenserver 6.1 > > > > On 19/12/12 12:13 PM, "Devdeep Singh

Re: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts to a domain

2012-12-20 Thread Saurav Lahiri
Lets say that the resources on the pod dedicated to the child-domain are exhausted and resources on parent pod are available. In this case will provisioning of vms for the child-domain happen on parent's pod. So essentially provisioning has a affinity for local pods if available. And if resources

RE: [DISCUSS] Enabling storage xenmotion on xenserver 6.1

2012-12-20 Thread Alex Huang
+1 hypervisor_capabilities table is intended for this purpose. --Alex > -Original Message- > From: Devdeep Singh [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:57 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Enabling storage xenmotion on

RE: [DISCUSS] Enabling storage xenmotion on xenserver 6.1

2012-12-20 Thread Alex Huang
> If the hypervisor doesn't support it, shouldn't we just fail the request with > a > proper message. The user/admin can shutdown the vm and then > move/migrate it. The behavior would be similar to how cloudstack currently > lets the VM volumes be migrated to another storage pool. > Devdeep, Cur

RE: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware

2012-12-20 Thread Alex Huang
Mice, Please add a subtask with target fix in 4.0.x to keep track of this. Then the release manager can open that for discussion when triaging for a 4.0.x release. --alex > -Original Message- > From: Mice Xia [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 3:25 PM >

RE: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts to a domain

2012-12-20 Thread Alex Huang
Deepti, As Chiradeep pointed out, you should get in contact with Prachi. You should plan on this after the ACL change or you can help out on the ACL change. For this feature, you really need to think about the stats collection side of this because you'll need to provide a lot of warnings abou

RE: [REVIEW/PROPOSAL/DISCUSS] API refactoring story: goal and notes

2012-12-20 Thread Alex Huang
I don't see db id to be removed. Db ids are used for integrity checks. See the following. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4813727/is-string-or-int-preferred-for-foreign-keys A join in the db the size that cs deals with is not a big performance problem. CS is not a content system afterall.

RE: Changes to the wiki

2012-12-20 Thread Donal Lafferty
Okay, some user feedback... Would prefer not to land on the cwiki 'Index' page. E.g. Wikipedia tells people the project page is http://cloudstack.org/ , which redirects to http://incubator.apache.org/cloudstack/ From here, you clikc 'Apache CloudStack Wiki and get to http://cwiki.apache.o

RE: [DISCUSS] Apache CloudStack Project Bylaws

2012-12-20 Thread Alex Huang
> Thinking about your question, I'm not sure. On one hand, specifics > are good. On the other hand, it's actually hard to pin down exactly > what a technical decision is. For example, is an overhaul of the > website a technical decision? I would argue that it is, since it's an > "action" being

RE: [ACS41] Schedule Reminder - Feature freeze on 2013-01-31

2012-12-20 Thread Alex Huang
+1 Nice I like the new page and it's details. Guys, please look at the design table in the page and move all the relevant design pages to 4.1 release so we can get rid of that design table. Let's make 4.1 release a good looking release! --Alex > -Original Message- > From: Chip Childe

RE: Changes to the wiki

2012-12-20 Thread Alex Huang
> > Would prefer not to land on the cwiki 'Index' page. Yeah...that index is dynamically generated. I tried to find ways to make it more static and eventually consistent but couldn't find anything on it. I figured it is useful though. Maybe we should change the title to "Index (Prepare to w

[jira] [Created] (CLOUDSTACK-684) Support VM Snapshot

2012-12-20 Thread Mice Xia (JIRA)
Mice Xia created CLOUDSTACK-684: --- Summary: Support VM Snapshot Key: CLOUDSTACK-684 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-684 Project: CloudStack Issue Type: New Feature Se

Re: Changes to the wiki

2012-12-20 Thread Chip Childers
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Alex Huang wrote: >> >> Would prefer not to land on the cwiki 'Index' page. > > Yeah...that index is dynamically generated. I tried to find ways to make it > more static and eventually consistent but couldn't find anything on it. I > figured it is useful though

RE: Changes to the wiki

2012-12-20 Thread Alex Huang
Donal, Try it again and see if you like it better. --Alex

RE: Changes to the wiki

2012-12-20 Thread Alex Huang
> Fixed. > > You actually do though (as do all committers). It's in our svn tree, > and publishing is done via https://cms.apache.org/cloudstack/ Nice. Thanks. I've also made some other changes. - Moved the index to index generator. - Added index page that points back to Home in case we have

RE: proper way to fetch system vms

2012-12-20 Thread Alex Huang
I would really like to see the system vm be built on the management server after it's deployed. There's several reasons for this. - As contribution grows, the number of items to be put on the system vm will likely grow. CloudStack is built on the principle that it is a software collection tha

RE: Changes to the wiki

2012-12-20 Thread Donal Lafferty
Faster (~4seconds load), clearer (drops you at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Home ) -Original Message- From: Alex Huang [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 20 December 2012 2:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Changes to the wiki Donal,

RE: Changes to the wiki

2012-12-20 Thread Alex Huang
Actually all of our external links should point to https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK and not https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Home nor https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Index Confluence redirects the first link to the home page

RE: [DISCUSS]API request throttling

2012-12-20 Thread Alex Huang
There also should be api to reset the count just in case we got it completely wrong. --Alex > -Original Message- > From: Pranav Saxena [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 2:21 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [DISCUSS]API reque

RE: [DISCUSS]API request throttling

2012-12-20 Thread Alex Huang
Maybe we can finally stopped the UI for DDOSing us with those getJobStatus requests. ;) --alex > -Original Message- > From: Ram Ganesh [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 1:23 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [DISCUSS]API request

[jira] [Created] (CLOUDSTACK-685) CloudStack 4.0 Network Usage is ZERO

2012-12-20 Thread Wei Zhou (JIRA)
Wei Zhou created CLOUDSTACK-685: --- Summary: CloudStack 4.0 Network Usage is ZERO Key: CLOUDSTACK-685 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-685 Project: CloudStack Issue Type: Bug

Re: [DISCUSS] Dedicated Resources: Dedicate Pods, Clusters, Hosts to a domain

2012-12-20 Thread David Nalley
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 1:19 AM, Deepti Dohare wrote: > Hi, > > Currently in CloudStack architecture, domains can have dedicated zones but > not pods, clusters or hosts. > > We are proposing this functionality in "Dedicated Resources" where a domain > or a sub-domain can have dedicated pods, cl

Re: Review Request: Added unit test cases for api/commands

2012-12-20 Thread Meghna Kale
> On Dec. 19, 2012, 7:15 p.m., Rohit Yadav wrote: > > Meghna and anyone who would submit patches that affect api layer; I did not > > mean to hint that one has to wait before we would merge api_refactoring to > > master, just that you should submit patches for api_refactoring branch > > itself

Re: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware

2012-12-20 Thread David Nalley
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 1:54 AM, Koushik Das wrote: > This > http://www.vmware.com/pdf/vsphere5/r51/vsphere-51-configuration-maximums.pdf > mentions that the max. can be 32 for ESX 5.1. Any specific reason to make it > 16? Also it needs to be seen that this limit works across all supported ESX

Re: [DISCUSS]API request throttling

2012-12-20 Thread John Kinsella
On Dec 20, 2012, at 2:20 AM, Pranav Saxena wrote: > Also are we planning to build the code in such a way that when we take into > consideration the "throttling time " , do we have some kind off a back-off > algorithm to trigger the request again automatically ( may be in some > scenarios

Re: [DISCUSS] Scaling up CPU and RAM for running VMs

2012-12-20 Thread Marcus Sorensen
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 4:52 AM, Koushik Das wrote: > See inline > > Thanks, > Koushik > > > -Original Message- > > From: Chip Childers [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 7:55 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS]

Review Request: createSetupGuestNetworkCommand in VpcVirtualNetworkApplianceManagerImpl.java fails when the broadcast URI is not a long

2012-12-20 Thread Roeland Kuipers
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://reviews.apache.org/r/8701/ --- Review request for cloudstack. Description --- This method expects the broa

RE: [DISCUSS]API request throttling

2012-12-20 Thread Pranav Saxena
Amazon uses API throttling but from what I know they leverage the leaky bucket algorithm and have some kind off a "back-off" algorithm for few of their tasks in which the API requests which were throttles are automatically triggered depending upon what the use case is . Hence I thought that per

RE: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware

2012-12-20 Thread Tamas Monos
Hi, I'd recommend removing any hard limits from CS and introduce a variable like "max.guest.limit" on the Hypervisor Capabilities page. This value could default to 8, but should the admin decide otherwise could be set to anything. Regards Tamas Monos

[jira] [Commented] (CLOUDSTACK-681) Dedicate Pod, Cluster or Host to a domain

2012-12-20 Thread Joe Brockmeier (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-681?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13537110#comment-13537110 ] Joe Brockmeier commented on CLOUDSTACK-681: --- This is a feature request - ass

[jira] [Updated] (CLOUDSTACK-683) Image Is Missing in the Accessing VM Section

2012-12-20 Thread Joe Brockmeier (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-683?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Joe Brockmeier updated CLOUDSTACK-683: -- Fix Version/s: (was: 4.0.1) > Image Is Missing in the Accessing VM Section

[jira] [Updated] (CLOUDSTACK-681) Dedicate Pod, Cluster or Host to a domain

2012-12-20 Thread Joe Brockmeier (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-681?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Joe Brockmeier updated CLOUDSTACK-681: -- Fix Version/s: (was: 4.0.1) Future > Dedicate Pod, Clust

[jira] [Updated] (CLOUDSTACK-615) Adding a VMware Cluster in a CS setup with CS-4.0.1 fails with "java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: Could not initialize class com.vmware.vim.ManagedObjectReference"

2012-12-20 Thread Joe Brockmeier (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-615?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Joe Brockmeier updated CLOUDSTACK-615: -- Fix Version/s: (was: 4.0.1) 4.0.2 > Adding a VMware Clus

Re: [DISCUSS]API request throttling

2012-12-20 Thread Min Chen
Agree with Koushik here. -min Sent from my iPhone On Dec 20, 2012, at 1:34 AM, "Koushik Das" wrote: > All the APIs are independent so even if some are not allowed due to limit > getting reached there shouldn't be any inconsistency in the DB/hypervisors. > But this needs to be handled properl

[jira] [Commented] (CLOUDSTACK-605) Host physical CPU is incorrectly calculated for Vmware hosts

2012-12-20 Thread Joe Brockmeier (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-605?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13537131#comment-13537131 ] Joe Brockmeier commented on CLOUDSTACK-605: --- Koushik - can you submit the pa

Review for 4.0.1 patch?

2012-12-20 Thread Joe Brockmeier
Can someone review this patch for CLOUDSTACK-595? https://reviews.apache.org/r/8432/ I'd like to get this in and get started on the vote. Thanks! Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier http://dissociatedpress.net/ Twitter: @jzb

RE: [jira] [Created] (CLOUDSTACK-684) Support VM Snapshot

2012-12-20 Thread Tamas Monos
Hi, Exporting in OVF format directly onto the mounted secondary storage in Vmware going around the SSVM would definitely improve snapshot performance. +1 Regards Tamas Monos DDI +44(0)2034687012 Chief Technical

[jira] [Commented] (CLOUDSTACK-684) Support VM Snapshot

2012-12-20 Thread Tamas Monos (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-684?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13537140#comment-13537140 ] Tamas Monos commented on CLOUDSTACK-684: Hi, Exporting in OVF format directly

RE: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware

2012-12-20 Thread Alex Huang
+1 The more we move these types of things out of configuration and into component specific references the better. --Alex > -Original Message- > From: Tamas Monos [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 8:10 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject:

[DISCUSS] StartCommand UUID

2012-12-20 Thread Donal Lafferty
In a plugin that processes the StartCommand command, what are the constraints on the "id", "uuid" and "name" fields? E.g. how unique is each field? The background is that I've been using "name" as the VM identifier on Hyper-V, but it occurs to me that I should probably be using UUID.

RE: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware

2012-12-20 Thread Hari Kannan
As we are discussing the "cluster" limit, would be more appropriate to set this as a cluster property - since I dont anticipate mixed clusters (such as a single cluster having VMware 4.x and 5.x), it would cover Dave Nalley's concern? One still still might be - if a single cluster has multipl

Re: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware

2012-12-20 Thread Chip Childers
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 10:24 AM, David Nalley wrote: > On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 1:54 AM, Koushik Das wrote: >> This >> http://www.vmware.com/pdf/vsphere5/r51/vsphere-51-configuration-maximums.pdf >> mentions that the max. can be 32 for ESX 5.1. Any specific reason to make it >> 16? Also it nee

RE: [DISCUSS] StartCommand UUID

2012-12-20 Thread Alex Huang
Depends on which name you're talking about. The one that starts with VM- is just as unique as the uuid because the # is a db id. I generally like using that versus the uuid because it's is very readable. I generally believe uuid is something for external people to see. Within the sys

RE: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware

2012-12-20 Thread Alex Huang
Kelven offered a reason earlier. "8-host limitation comes from the limitation posted from VMFSv3 for linked-clone usage. So in CloudStack, it is an artificial limit we post to reduce possible runtime problems." It's due to VMFSv3 and usage of linked clone in CloudStack. --Alex > -Original M

Re: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware

2012-12-20 Thread Chip Childers
Sorry, should have been more clear in my question. What's the math that got you to 8? - chip Sent from my iPhone. On Dec 20, 2012, at 11:50 AM, Alex Huang wrote: > Kelven offered a reason earlier. > > "8-host limitation comes from the limitation posted from VMFSv3 for > linked-clone usage. So

Re: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware

2012-12-20 Thread David Nalley
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Alex Huang wrote: > Kelven offered a reason earlier. > > "8-host limitation comes from the limitation posted from VMFSv3 for > linked-clone usage. So in CloudStack, it is an artificial limit we post to > reduce possible runtime problems." > > It's due to VMFSv3 an

Re: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware

2012-12-20 Thread David Nalley
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Chip Childers wrote: > Sorry, should have been more clear in my question. What's the math > that got you to 8? > No math involved. It was a VMFS limitation around number of hosts that could simultaneously use a linked clone disk image. --David

[jira] [Created] (CLOUDSTACK-686) Allow for same vlan on different physical nics

2012-12-20 Thread Marcus Sorensen (JIRA)
Marcus Sorensen created CLOUDSTACK-686: -- Summary: Allow for same vlan on different physical nics Key: CLOUDSTACK-686 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-686 Project: CloudStack

RE: [jira] [Commented] (CLOUDSTACK-605) Host physical CPU is incorrectly calculated for Vmware hosts

2012-12-20 Thread Koushik Das
I had already shared the review, look at my first comment. -Koushik > -Original Message- > From: Joe Brockmeier (JIRA) [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 9:57 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [jira] [Commented] (CLOUDSTACK-605) Host physica

[jira] [Commented] (CLOUDSTACK-605) Host physical CPU is incorrectly calculated for Vmware hosts

2012-12-20 Thread Koushik Das (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-605?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13537175#comment-13537175 ] Koushik Das commented on CLOUDSTACK-605: I had already shared the review, look

[jira] [Commented] (CLOUDSTACK-605) Host physical CPU is incorrectly calculated for Vmware hosts

2012-12-20 Thread Koushik Das (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-605?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13537176#comment-13537176 ] Koushik Das commented on CLOUDSTACK-605: I had already shared the review, look

Re: Concerns about our community health and collaboration process

2012-12-20 Thread Marcus Sorensen
Thanks for the followup Chip, I think I have a better idea now. The silence == consent thing is a bit hard for me to take; as a committer I have the ability to really screw things up, and so there's a lot of potential fallout from moving forward with something only to find out that someone missed

Re: [DISCUSS] Scaling up CPU and RAM for running VMs

2012-12-20 Thread Marcus Sorensen
Oh, if it's not already obvious, we're onboard for collaborating on this feature and can help implement the KVM hypervisor portions. :-) On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Marcus Sorensen wrote: > > > > On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 4:52 AM, Koushik Das wrote: > >> See inline >> >> Thanks, >> Koushik >>

Re: Concerns about our community health and collaboration process

2012-12-20 Thread David Nalley
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Marcus Sorensen wrote: > Thanks for the followup Chip, I think I have a better idea now. > > The silence == consent thing is a bit hard for me to take; as a committer I > have the ability to really screw things up, and so there's a lot of > potential fallout from

[DISCUSS] StopCommand

2012-12-20 Thread Donal Lafferty
Is StopCommand meant to release resources associated with a VM save the volumes in one operation? E.g. should it complete only after the VM has come to a complete stop?

RE: [DISCUSS] StopCommand

2012-12-20 Thread Alex Huang
Yes. It should. It needs to stop and release any resource the vm was holding previously. --Alex > -Original Message- > From: Donal Lafferty [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 9:54 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [DISCUSS] Stop

RE: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware

2012-12-20 Thread Tamas Monos
Sorry for the side-track for a moment but just another reason to get rid of linked-in clone template management on vmware in the long-run. I still do not believe using linked-in clones is actually beneficial taking into account it drawbacks: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-529 R

RE: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware

2012-12-20 Thread Will Chan
Correct. In vsphere 5.1, this limitation was lifted to support up to 32 hosts. > -Original Message- > From: David Nalley [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 8:55 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 o

Re: [DISCUSS]API request throttling

2012-12-20 Thread Min Chen
That is a good thought. Currently we haven't thought of automatically trigger those blocked requests, and still expect users to manually trigger it. Thanks -min On 12/20/12 7:52 AM, "Pranav Saxena" wrote: >Amazon uses API throttling but from what I know they leverage the leaky >bucket algorith

Re: [DISCUSS]API request throttling

2012-12-20 Thread Min Chen
Good point, will add to FS. Thanks -min On 12/20/12 6:52 AM, "Alex Huang" wrote: >There also should be api to reset the count just in case we got it >completely wrong. > >--Alex > >> -Original Message- >> From: Pranav Saxena [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Thursday, December

Re: [DISCUSS]API request throttling

2012-12-20 Thread Min Chen
Current design is to set API call limit per account, and for root admin we will set such limit. An API to show remaining counts per account sounds good, I can add that into FS. Thanks -min On 12/20/12 12:48 AM, "Koushik Das" wrote: >+1 to the idea. > >Should there be some API to show how many A

Re: [DISCUSS]API request throttling

2012-12-20 Thread Min Chen
Sorry, typo, I meant that we will not set limit for root admin. Thanks -min On 12/20/12 10:12 AM, "Min Chen" wrote: >Current design is to set API call limit per account, and for root admin we >will set such limit. An API to show remaining counts per account sounds >good, I can add that into FS.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware

2012-12-20 Thread Kelven Yang
There is another constraint that comes into play when cluster size becomes large, for example 32 hosts. We use standard vSwitch in default implementation, in order to support out-of-band vMotion (may be activated by DRS), when we deploy a VM, we actually will program all the vSwitches within the cl

Re: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware

2012-12-20 Thread Chip Childers
A recommendation could be (in the docs), that clusters > X hosts use a DVS (Nexus 1KV or VMware's DVS). Those switching approaches obviously limit the port profile creation to 1 switch target for the cluster (the DVS control plane, i.e. the VSM or Virtual Center). On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 1:18 PM,

RE: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware

2012-12-20 Thread Hari Kannan
+1 on making linked clones optional From: Tamas Monos [[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 1:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware Sorry for the side-track for a mome

RE: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware

2012-12-20 Thread Musayev, Ilya
Though I have no voting power, I agree we should have a config setting for using linked clone or traditional clone. -Original Message- From: Hari Kannan [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 1:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [PROPOSA

RE: Concerns about our community health and collaboration process

2012-12-20 Thread Alex Huang
> -Original Message- > From: David Nalley [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 9:54 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Concerns about our community health and collaboration process > > On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Marcus Sorensen > wro

RE: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware

2012-12-20 Thread Hari Kannan
I have no voting power either... I proposed to add this feature (didnt know there was an existing proposal) yesterday Hari From: Musayev, Ilya [[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 1:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: R

RE: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware

2012-12-20 Thread Alex Huang
I didn't know people are granted on voting power. Where did you see that in this community? --Alex > -Original Message- > From: Hari Kannan [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 10:55 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL]

RE: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware

2012-12-20 Thread Anthony Xu
Linked clone is fast, it can decrease the VM provision time. Full clone improves disk access performance. Not share if VMware provide API to convert linked clone to full clone? If yes, should we consider following? Virtual disk starts with linked clone( fast VM/Disk provision). Convert linked clo

Re: [REVIEW/PROPOSAL] API refactoring story: goal and notes

2012-12-20 Thread David Nalley
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 12:45 AM, Fang Wang wrote: > Hi all, > After answering questions about why/what we are doing to API refactoring, > I'll add this to the FS document. > Probably lots of people are not clear what is our motivation and what we want > to achieve here. > (Will add this to the

Re: Review Request: Default admin user account will not be created in clean setup

2012-12-20 Thread Min Chen
> On Dec. 20, 2012, 6:45 a.m., Hugo Trippaers wrote: > > Heya, > > > > Good catch this one. > > > > Please do not use the INSERT IGNORE syntax. This is Mysql specific and > > would prevent using any other database in the future. Isn't setting a > > random password a better solution? > > > >

Re: [ASFCS41] IPv6 Support

2012-12-20 Thread Sheng Yang
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Chip Childers wrote: > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Chiradeep Vittal > wrote: >> >> >> On 12/19/12 12:44 PM, "Chip Childers" wrote: >> >>>On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 3:12 PM, David Nalley wrote: On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Chiradeep Vittal wrote:

Re: [DISCUSS] Enabling storage xenmotion on xenserver 6.1

2012-12-20 Thread Nitin Mehta
On 20-Dec-2012, at 6:57 PM, Alex Huang wrote: >> If the hypervisor doesn't support it, shouldn't we just fail the request >> with a >> proper message. The user/admin can shutdown the vm and then >> move/migrate it. The behavior would be similar to how cloudstack currently >> lets the VM volumes

Re: [ASFCS41] IPv6 Support

2012-12-20 Thread Sheng Yang
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Sheng Yang wrote: > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Chip Childers > wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Chiradeep Vittal >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 12/19/12 12:44 PM, "Chip Childers" wrote: >>> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 3:12 PM, David Nalley wrote: >>>

RE: [ASFCS41] IPv6 Support

2012-12-20 Thread Anthony Xu
Some questions, Will CS support IPv6 in basic zone/network? Does that mean CS support both host and guest IPv6 in 4.1? Anthony > -Original Message- > From: Sheng Yang [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 1:02 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject

RE: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware

2012-12-20 Thread Musayev, Ilya
Based on the CloudStack bylaws (still in review state, sent out by Chip if I'm not mistaken) and previous experience on this mailing list - it seemed that only PPMC had vote ability. If I misinterpreted that, my apology. Alex Huang wrote: I didn't know people are granted on voting power. Wher

Re: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware

2012-12-20 Thread Chip Childers
Ilya, That's for formal votes (and in this case it would be any committer). However this isn't a formal vote! We're usually going based on a full community consensus. Your opinion certainly matters! Sorry if we confused things, but the whole bylaw thing is for when more formality is required. -

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