RE: [cms-list] RE: (We create a) new eLearning standard?

2003-01-31 Thread Austin, Darrel
It's stuff like this where LMS/CMS versus eLearning starts to make me scratch my head. I'm scratching my head too. From what I've been reading, an LMS is really a 'testing' management system. It serves out content from the CMS and then collects and stores test grades, student results, etc. Is

RE: [cms-list] new to list/cm - What is CMS?????

2003-01-30 Thread Austin, Darrel
Totally agree that users can have lots of difficulty when presented with Content Wysiwyg pages that allow the user to get the feel of what he is entering or creating is the real requirement. Is this an issue of human nature, or simply learned behavior? I agree that content should be

RE: [cms-list] new to list/cm - What is CMS?????

2003-01-30 Thread Austin, Darrel
I certainly don't want this topic to veer off into the realm of off topicness, so if it does, someone shoot it down. That said, I find it a very interesting topic... For example - if I work in Marketing Communications and am tasked to write Press Releases, how can I insure that my press

RE: [cms-list] new to list/cm - What is CMS?????

2003-01-30 Thread Austin, Darrel
To them, knowing where the line wraps is important. But is it? It's not. This is just an issue the content author has. Where the line wraps is really irrelevant to most everyone except maybe the graphic designer who is laying out a printed piece...which always takes manual handiwork

RE: [cms-list] new to list/cm - What is CMS?????

2003-01-30 Thread Austin, Darrel
The ultimate look and feel of your content IS important and is not something that should be left to the DBA or whover who oversees the overall CMS. If you ask me, a CMS should make it as easy for designers and artists to design, manipulate and output pages (essentially, the shells into

RE: [cms-list] new to list/cm - What is CMS?????

2003-01-30 Thread Austin, Darrel
Of course Darrel we know you mean that this is true only in organizations where there is a clear separation between the two roles right? :-) Right. I'm certainly speaking theoretically. Still...while the roles may be handled by one person, they really are still two different tasks. Content

RE: [cms-list] new to list/cm - What is CMS?????

2003-01-30 Thread Austin, Darrel
Ok...my last post on the topic (I think people are getting bored with me)... I'd like to play devil's advocate here. One of the intrinsically different things about presentation on the web -- to say nothing about alternative formats like WAP -- is that you have no idea what the physical

RE: [cms-list] LCMS, LMS's CMS's

2003-01-29 Thread Austin, Darrel
(argh...I hate Outlook. Sent message before finishing...sorry...) We in the CMS space should just engulf the eLearning technologies like a big amoeba. Anyone want to help me define a new eLearning standard? Hehe... Out of complete curiosity and, perhaps, naivete, what is SCORM and why is

RE: [cms-list] RE: .NET CMS solutions

2003-01-16 Thread Austin, Darrel
What benefits do .Net CMS's have verses Java based CMS's? You can sell them to a organization that for whatever reason has decided to go solely with MS technologies. ;) ;) (granted, the converse is true, too...) -Darrel -- http://cms-list.org/ more signal, less noise.

[cms-list] What's Vignette got these days?

2003-01-16 Thread Austin, Darrel
It came up in discussion today that we may be having to work on the perihpery of a Vignette CMS system. My past experience with Vignette was several years ago with their StoryServer product and the concensus seemed to be that it was really expensive, had proprietary dev tools, and a bit of a

RE: [cms-list] . Net CMS solutions

2003-01-14 Thread Austin, Darrel
In my admittedly brief searching, the only one I found was: http://web500.com/ Several vendors are saying that their 'next versions' will be .net, but web500 appears to be one of the few that currently is. -Darrel -Original Message- From: Andrew Iddon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

[cms-list] Online training (OT?)

2002-12-31 Thread Austin, Darrel
This may be completely off topic, but it seems to have some correlation with CMS. We're currently researching various CMS solutions for our org. We've recently added a secondary need...online training/courseware/testing. Has anyone worked with a product that offers the delivery of training

RE: [cms-list] Integrated Mailing List in CMS

2002-12-23 Thread Austin, Darrel
Why would you want to do that through the CMS rather than through the forum software? FYI, just to add to the discussion, I can see a need for allowing people to subsrcibe to sections of a site. Ie, enter your email here to receive notice when new content is posted here. It'd be nice if the

RE: [cms-list] Integrated Mailing List in CMS

2002-12-23 Thread Austin, Darrel
In this case, I'd have to agree with Adam in that these features you are requesting are specific to a web forum...not really a CMS. Most forum software allows for the subscribing to threads, and there are several that allow for the posting via email as well. -Darrel Here's the scenario: If

RE: [cms-list] need some help with a cms list

2002-12-20 Thread Austin, Darrel
Are there any other parameters, or is cost the only one? -Darrel my budget got uploaded to the 20k US dollars . I'll be happy to get a list of recommended CMS products answering this budget. 10x in advance. -- http://cms-list.org/ trim your replies for good karma.

[cms-list] Preserving pagination in a CMS

2002-12-06 Thread Austin, Darrel
One bit of content we are planning on disseminating via a CMS has an unusual restriction: the pagination must be preserved. These are documents that ultimately need to be searchable, viewable, parsable, but also retain a specic pagination scheme for proper citations. For instance, the document,

RE: [cms-list] Preserving pagination in a CMS

2002-12-06 Thread Austin, Darrel
It sounds like to just need to break your content up into passage blocks, then maintain a list of which blocks go in which order on which pages. PDF-ing the pages doesn't seem like it will gain you much here, since you're not necessarily interested in keeping a physical representation of the

RE: [cms-list] Best Options...?

2002-11-22 Thread Austin, Darrel
A lot of people recommend mt for a basic, free CMS, but I don't think it would really be applicable in this case. MT is really a CMS designed for news items. Somthing that gets created, then archived. Not really for content that gets constantly accessed and modified. Am I wrong? try:

RE: [cms-list] File Types for Scanned Documents

2002-11-18 Thread Austin, Darrel
I'm no expert on this, so feel free to correct any errors... First of all, this seems like a DAM (digital assets management) issue more than a content management issue. So, perhaps looking in that direction may be of assistance. I think this is normally called document imaging. I'd suggest using

RE: [cms-list] MSWORD to XML (FrameMaker - .doc .pdf .xml...?)

2002-11-18 Thread Austin, Darrel
This has sort-of been discussed already, but this topic has lead me to a new question: Why do organizations depend on Word so much...which just creates a lot of unstructured content? Well, the answer, of course, is because it's the word processor the company bought and is the product everyone

RE: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

2002-11-06 Thread Austin, Darrel
IK -- Yes, but a) form based content entry does not prevent content being entered in the 'wrong' field in addition to being not very flexible to begin with, I didn't think we were talking about form-based input. You, of course, only would want to use form-based input for very structured