Re: [CMS-PIPELINES] About DELAY after SET TIMEZONE

2016-04-08 Thread Rob van der Heij
I'm afraid I am not going to do multiple timezones. Understand that we don't even change the name of the timezone here when the offset changes. And I am not going to touch the leap seconds either. Yes, if you set your alarm for 7am 20 years ahead, it may well be that powers have ruled and changed

Re: [CMS-PIPELINES] About DELAY after SET TIMEZONE

2016-04-08 Thread Glenn Knickerbocker
On 4/8/2016 2:26 PM, I wrote: > It would be nice to accept offsets in all formats valid to DEFINE > TIMEZONE or ISO 8601, with or without a blank before the time zone or > offset. East, West, and Z could conflict with valid CP time zones, though. Wait, no, allowing blanks would get way too messy,

Re: [CMS-PIPELINES] About DELAY after SET TIMEZONE

2016-04-08 Thread Glenn Knickerbocker
On 4/8/2016 5:31 AM, Rob van der Heij wrote: > I did not want to bother the rest of the IBMVM list with this, but I could > use some votes on what we expect DELAY to do after a SET TIMEZONE was issued. For an interval, I would certainly expect it to wait for the specified duration, irrespective of

Re: [CMS-PIPELINES] About DELAY after SET TIMEZONE

2016-04-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2016-04-08, at 10:39, John P. Hartmann wrote: > For the sake of argument, suppose you set the wake up time for the bear > to whatever it should be at the current time, say 9:00 on March 9 next > year and congress then subsequently decides in view of various > emergencies to extend summer time t

Re: [CMS-PIPELINES] About DELAY after SET TIMEZONE

2016-04-08 Thread John P. Hartmann
For the sake of argument, suppose you set the wake up time for the bear to whatever it should be at the current time, say 9:00 on March 9 next year and congress then subsequently decides in view of various emergencies to extend summer time through winter (was it 1984?). On 04/08/2016 06:10 PM, Da

Re: [CMS-PIPELINES] About DELAY after SET TIMEZONE

2016-04-08 Thread Dave Jones
Yes, a +72000 means wait for 2 hours, regardless of what time zone you’re in or if the time zone changes while the wait is underway. That's easy to understand and easy to document. I also like the idea of including a item zone expression to the time-of-day the DELAY stage is to wait; it's not

Re: [CMS-PIPELINES] About DELAY after SET TIMEZONE

2016-04-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2016-04-08, at 09:29, Hobart Spitz wrote: > I think that if you clearly document the distinction, then I would think > that different behaviors for +hh:mm versus hh:mm would make sense. > > An alternative/additional solution, possibly too much trouble, would be to > add a timezone to the time

Re: [CMS-PIPELINES] About DELAY after SET TIMEZONE

2016-04-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2016-04-08, at 03:31, Rob van der Heij wrote: > > But what about the pop that is pending. I am tempted to distinguish between an > interval (with a "+") and a time of day. So +7200 waits for 2 hours, whether > clocks changed or not. But I know some plumbers compute it either way. > I agree.

Re: [CMS-PIPELINES] About DELAY after SET TIMEZONE

2016-04-08 Thread Hobart Spitz
I think that if you clearly document the distinction, then I would think that different behaviors for +hh:mm versus hh:mm would make sense. An alternative/additional solution, possibly too much trouble, would be to add a timezone to the time specification: E.g. 10:30-EST, 18:15-CDT, etc. Why to

[CMS-PIPELINES] About DELAY after SET TIMEZONE

2016-04-08 Thread Rob van der Heij
I did not want to bother the rest of the IBMVM list with this, but I could use some votes on what we expect DELAY to do after a SET TIMEZONE was issued. No promises, but any comments on this? I understand we want future delays started after the SET TIMEZONE to be done with the new timezone. The bo