I checked those regs and they now permit HMPE rope lifelines.
“Lifeline Specifications
Lifelines of stranded stainless steel wire
Lifelines of either:
stranded stainless steel wire
HMPE
The minimum diameter is specified in table 8 below
Stainless steel lifelines shall be uncoated and used without
World Sailings Offshore special regs require Stainless steel on all mono hull
sailboats except for ‘Short races, close to shore in relatively warm or
protected waters normally held in daylight.’Covered in Offshore Special
Regulations. Our club uses these regs for all long distance races on
After reviewing all of the (well thought out) entries on this thread, I am
confused; are the Dyneema, or similar synthetic materials allowed or not
allowed? If allowed, are there certain materials/brands which are preferred?
Some which should be avoided?
What is the priority on a project
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Our 35-2 has the vinyl coated lines (maybe original) which appear to be in
decent shape (the vinyl that is). I thought of removing the vinyl, but it
appears the wire beneath is quite thin (maybe 1/8" or 3/16") so would be
more likely to cut into fingers. I was planning to just use my old shrouds
If you race, please read on…
Here is a list of the 2016 Safety Equipment Requirements that apply to
lifelines for both coastal and ocean racing. For full list of 2016 SERs, visit
the US Sailing website at
http://www.ussailing.org/safety/equipment-and-requirements/
A boat’s stanchion and
And I forgot to say, I had them made up by a local rigger. Not much more
expensive than the wire, pelican hooks and related parts themselves.Sent from
Samsung tablet.
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We ended up going with uncovered 7x19 wire with adjustable pelican hooks placed
at each end. We do not normally get to tie up on long (enough) docks where we
are in Florida, so we can unhook bow or stern and put enough slack in anywhere
along the side of the boat to make getting on & off the
From Practical Sailor. “International Sailing Association and Federation
(ISAF) Offshore Special Regulations give considerable attention to lifeline
design. For boats over 28 feet, they must be a minimum of 24 inches above the
working deck and be made of uncoated wire or the equivalent high
Klacko in Oakville - send them your old ones and have them make new ones. When
we did ours we eliminated the covering (which is now the offshore rule), which
eliminated the rusting.
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Any polymeric lifeline like spectra, amsteel or dyneema is not a real
“lifeline” regardless of tensile strength.
On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 9:16 AM Jerome Tauber via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> According to Sail Magazine article it’s less of a propeller today. “Ultra-High
> Molecular
Still, check with your insurance company and/or an insurance surveyor. They
may not “allow” synthetic line and only approve uncovered stainless steel.
Neil
1982 C 32, FoxFire
Rock Hall, MD
Neil Andersen
20691 Jamieson Rd
Rock Hall, MD 21661
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According to Sail Magazine article it’s less of a propeller today. “Ultra-High
Molecular Weight Polyethylene, or HMPE, popularly known as Dyneema or Spectra,
is some 15 times stronger than steel weight-for-weight; 5mm (3/16)Amsteel Blue
has a tensile strength of 5,400lb. It’s also versatile,
I would try HMP, Genco or the rigging shoppe. For what its worth, I used a heat
gun and a hooked drywall knife to remove the tired plastic and found perfect
stainless underneath. But high tech rope was my plan B.
Len
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Jim,
Dyneema degrades with UV exposure and its life has become hard to
predict. The vinyl coating on Stainless Steel wire makes it difficult
to inspect for corrosion. I have been looking at replacing the
lifelines on our 35-3. I am still thinking about vinyl coated, but we
are in fresh
On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 7:15 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Dyneema was banned not because of strength issues, but because of issues
> with being compromised or cut all the way through by chafe.
>
> Thank you Joe
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Dyneema was banned not because of strength issues, but because of issues with
being compromised or cut all the way through by chafe.
Joe
Coquina
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Typically it is the race associations but other associations such as ABYC
> set standards too. Oddly enough there is little to ensure that the updated
> standards are continually met for the recreational cruiser. Periodic
> insurance surveys or race inspections are about the only thing that
Typically it is the race associations but other associations such as ABYC
set standards too. Oddly enough there is little to ensure that the updated
standards are continually met for the recreational cruiser. Periodic
insurance surveys or race inspections are about the only thing that would
The rule against vinyl coated lifelines is a racing regulation but could also be considered a recommendation any reasonable person would follow. There were too many instances where the stainless lifeline cable
Joe wrote:
> AFAIK dyneema is no longer legal for lifeline use. I used bare stainless.
>
Question:
Joe is saying Dyneema is not legal for lifelines, and someone earlier
stated vinyl covered stainless were no longer allowed (or some wording like
that).
Who is making these rules? Is it racing
AFAIK dyneema is no longer legal for lifeline use. I used bare stainless.
Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I
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