Excellent assessment, Danny.
There's a Pearson 31 in my marina that sits idle. I steered a friend of mine
looking for a boat to the owner. The guy was receptive to selling but his
price was waaay out of line. Chatting with the owner later, he told me he had
just put a $4000 bottom job on it and had added that to the pricing he'd seen
online, etc. Totally unrealistic.
Touche' wasn't for sale when I bought it. I just noticed that it had been idle
for 8 years. I got the owners name from the marina manager, contacted him and
worked the deal. Fortunately, he was reasonable on price.
It's hard to find boats that might be available but not "officially" for sale.
Because I work on boats and am around the marinas a lot, I could probably find
some nice candidates. I see lots of idled boats. The dock fees are probably
set up on automatic payments. Out of sight, out of mind.
Walk the piers. Talk to owners, boat maintenance folks, marina managers, etc.
They may suggest boats that can be purchased.
If you see a boat you like, ask if it's for sale. No harm in asking.
Is Touche' for sale? Absolutely! Always. But is it reasonably priced? I
doubt it. :)
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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> From: "djhaug...@juno.com" <djhaug...@juno.com>
>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 7:15 AM
>Subject: Re: Stus-List Another boat
>
>
>
>Mark,
>I doubt the guy is being deliberately dishonest about any of his descriptions.
> He probably believes everything. What I noticed as I shopped for a boat was
>that most of the brokers were more upfront about condition than the owners
>trying to sell on there own.
>
>Lets face it, we overlook things sometimes as "not so bad" because either we
>would rather spend the boat bucks on something else, or it seems like too much
>of a pain in the butt to deal with right now...whatever. The point is we
>convince ourselves that things are not as bad as they seem sometimes. Now,
>add to the mix that you want someone to buy your boat and you have a price
>that you would like to get for it. I think you are going to be even more
>willing to overlook the condition of things. After all, you first have to
>convince yourself that your asking price is fair.
>
>I must have looked 25 boats in my search over 2 years. Almost non of the for
>sale by owner boats were in the condition described. I don't think any of
>them, except one, were deliberately misrepresenting their boat. In fact, I
>pretty much liked all of them. I think it was an emotional assessment that
>led them to either not disclose something or overstate condition.
>
>On the other hand, the brokers want to move boats. They know an over priced
>boat is going to sit and sit. There is nothing in it for them to over price a
>boat. I had brokers tell me about blistering and soft spots right over the
>phone. they didn't want to waste their time meeting, showing, and opening up
>a boat if it wasn't as described. I walked away disappointed from for sale by
>owner boats way more often than brokered boats.
>
>I got to a point that if the description did not give the age of the sails,
>they needed replaced. It seemed that, if anyone bought sails within the
>previous 12, or so, years, they listed the year they were purchased. My
>research made clear that sails are generally completely bagged out by 10 years
>unless serviced and resewn. Then 15 years might be your usable life. Bagged
>out sails really make for unexpected reactions to the wind. If you are
>looking at a reputedly tender boat, bagged out sails will certainly make it
>WAY more tender. It's the shape that goes, not the material. I ended up
>buying new sails for both of my boats and I'm glad I did. New sails just
>handle the wind and the gusts better.
>
>Another thing I noticed was that broker listed boats, where the broker
>actually returned calls, were, generally, more fairly priced. I went out
>hunting a few times because some of the un-returned calls were on boats that
>looked great in the adds but, upon finding them on my own, I understood the
>un-returned calls.
>
>So, I just kept looking and looking and looking until something felt right.
>
>Anyway, those are my insights and experiences. worth every bit of $0.02
>American or Canadian or Australian for that matter, I think!
>
>Danny
>Lolita
>1973 Viking 33
>Westport Point, MA
>
>
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