Re: Stus-List Problem with 2 new fuel gauges...long story

2015-04-05 Thread Leslie Paal via CnC-List
#x27; come back. Leslie. (finally some use for my science degrees) ;-) On Sat, 4/4/15, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List Problem with 2 new fuel gauges...long story To: "C&C List" , "Marek Dziedzic" D

Re: Stus-List Problem with 2 new fuel gauges...long story

2015-04-05 Thread Leslie Paal via CnC-List
Stus-List Problem with 2 new fuel gauges...long story To: w...@wbryant.com, "C&C List" Date: Saturday, April 4, 2015, 6:13 PM All analog meters are just measuring the "voltage drop" across a resistance.  The key is to have the appropriate voltage input +12v.  If the +

Re: Stus-List Problem with 2 new fuel gauges...long story

2015-04-05 Thread Leslie Paal via CnC-List
strictly speaking the fuel gauge measures current. ;-) Leslie. On Sat, 4/4/15, Wally Bryant via CnC-List wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List Problem with 2 new fuel gauges...long story To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Saturday, April 4, 2015, 4:07 PM

Re: Stus-List Problem with 2 new fuel gauges...long story

2015-04-05 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
One terminal of the sender connects to the plate that mounts to the tank--this is grounded because the tank is grounded. So, polarity is involved here. I can remove the tank ground and switch the wires. Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230 email: dainyr...@i

Re: Stus-List Problem with 2 new fuel gauges...long story

2015-04-05 Thread Don Newman via CnC-List
The actual meter portion of analog meters are essentially the same (Volt, Amp, Ohm) they register the voltage presented to them. The way the are placed in the circuit makes the difference. Volt meter across the voltage, Amp across a shunt (a low resistance resistor) to measure the voltage drop ac

Re: Stus-List Problem with 2 new fuel gauges...long story

2015-04-04 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
The sender doesn't have a polarity. It is just a resistance. Is this what the back of your sender looks like? Which wires do you have attached where? Josh On Apr 4, 2015 10:49 PM, "Robert Boyer via CnC-List" wrote: > When you connect the sensing wire to ground, the needle goes positive all >

Re: Stus-List Problem with 2 new fuel gauges...long story

2015-04-04 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Excerpt from the following link: http://www.doityourself.com/stry/how-does-an-analog-voltmeter-work An analog voltmeter works by passing a current through a coil that is suspended between two permanent magnets. This coil of wire is known

Re: Stus-List Problem with 2 new fuel gauges...long story

2015-04-04 Thread Wally Bryant via CnC-List
Okay, I'm grinning. Now we have ammeters, voltmeters, and ohmmeters. Let's all just have a beer and admit that we don't really understand anything at all. I have noticed that when the house bank is low, my WEMA fuel gauge also reads low. I've always wondered why, and figured that it had so

Re: Stus-List Problem with 2 new fuel gauges...long story

2015-04-04 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
When you connect the sensing wire to ground, the needle goes positive all the way as it should do but it does not register the fuel level. I now believe that one gauge is working correctly because the needle moved slightly positive when energized--but the tank is completely empty. The other gau

Re: Stus-List Problem with 2 new fuel gauges...long story

2015-04-04 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Josh, This is certainly not sailing related, but if i remember it correctly, they are all really ammeters (the current flowing through them creates the magnetic field that moves the needle). Marek Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote: All analog meters are just measuring the "voltage drop" across

Re: Stus-List Problem with 2 new fuel gauges...long story

2015-04-04 Thread Russ & Melody via CnC-List
It's okay Josh. Wally is a geek, he knows. I think he was just entertaining himself. Maybe it gets lonely sometimes in Mexico after the sun goes down. :) Cheers, Russ east side, Vancouver Island At 06:13 PM 04/04/2015, you wrote: All analog meters are just measuring the "voltage dro

Re: Stus-List Problem with 2 new fuel gauges...long story

2015-04-04 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
All analog meters are just measuring the "voltage drop" across a resistance. The key is to have the appropriate voltage input +12v. If the +12v and the sensing line were reversed then the "voltage drop" would be "negative" driving the needle to the empty peg. Josh On Apr 4, 2015 7:08 PM, "Wally

Re: Stus-List Problem with 2 new fuel gauges...long story

2015-04-04 Thread Wally Bryant via CnC-List
I thought they were Ohm meters. Anyway, I just Googled it to make sure, and see a ton of pages on testing marine fuel sender resistance. Wal you wrote: I agree with your diagnosis. It's gotta be reversed polarity...of the sense and gnd. Fundamentally the fuel gages are just voltage meters.

Re: Stus-List Problem with 2 new fuel gauges...long story

2015-04-03 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I agree with your diagnosis. It's gotta be reversed polarity...of the sense and gnd. Fundamentally the fuel gages are just voltage meters. They respond proportionally to the voltage drop across the variable resistance in the sender. I would disconnect the leads and use an ohm meter to measure a

Stus-List Problem with 2 new fuel gauges...long story

2015-04-02 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
I'm sharing an electrical problem right now in the hope that someone here on this list has had a similar problem and solved it... Over the winter I added an auxiliary 19-gallon diesel tank under the nav station seat. I decided to buy 2 new fuel gauges, one for the new auxiliary fuel tank and t