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2014-04-10 Thread dwight
-List [ mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Mark Bodnar Sent: April 9, 2014 2:23 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... I agree wholeheartedly. Society, in our attempt to make idiot proof

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2014-04-09 Thread Colin Kilgour
If you want to get infuriated, read this woman's blog about Rebel Heart. Apparently, she's some kind of self-described parenting expert who is now weighing in on sailing and seamanship issues as well. I'm not sure I'd have gone to sea with my kids at that age, but if I didn't, it certainly

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2014-04-09 Thread Della Barba, Joe
was a full time job for my wife and I was essentially sailing single-handed while she kept him safe and happy. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Colin Kilgour Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 9:25 AM To: CC List Subject: Stus-List Rebel Heart

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2014-04-09 Thread Stevan Plavsa
sailing single-handed while she kept him safe and happy. *Joe Della Barba* Coquina *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Colin Kilgour *Sent:* Wednesday, April 09, 2014 9:25 AM *To:* CC List *Subject:* Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... If you

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2014-04-09 Thread Lisa Lias
single-handed while she kept him safe and happy. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Colin Kilgour Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 9:25 AM To: CC List Subject: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... If you want

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2014-04-09 Thread Josh Muckley
My concern is that some governing agency would/could start telling me what I can or can't do, with or without my kids because of the hazard. Kinda smells like a helmet or seatbelt law, or reckless endangerment. Who gets to decide? Josh Muckley On Apr 9, 2014 9:25 AM, Colin Kilgour

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2014-04-09 Thread Frederick G Street
Reading the article horrified me; but then I was gratified reading the responses. Common sense still lives… :^) Comment after comment compared her remarks about taking kids out on a boat with throwing them in a vehicle and driving somewhere, and how much more statistically dangerous that

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2014-04-09 Thread Andrew Burton
for my wife and I was essentially sailing single-handed while she kept him safe and happy. *Joe Della Barba* Coquina *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Colin Kilgour *Sent:* Wednesday, April 09, 2014 9:25 AM *To:* CC List *Subject:* Stus-List Rebel Heart

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2014-04-09 Thread Della Barba, Joe
Of Colin Kilgour Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 9:25 AM To: CC List Subject: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... If you want to get infuriated, read this woman's blog about Rebel Heart. Apparently, she's some kind of self-described parenting expert who is now weighing in on sailing

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2014-04-09 Thread Frederick G Street
I didn’t start sailing young enough to have had that experience; but you can be darn sure my kids did! Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Apr 9, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Della Barba, Joe joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov wrote: I still remember

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2014-04-09 Thread Della Barba, Joe
AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... I didn't start sailing young enough to have had that experience; but you can be darn sure my kids did! Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI

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2014-04-09 Thread Stevan Plavsa
] *On Behalf Of *Frederick G Street *Sent:* Wednesday, April 09, 2014 10:44 AM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... I didn't start sailing young enough to have had that experience; but you can be darn sure my kids did! Fred Street

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2014-04-09 Thread Frederick G Street
Steve — I started at 37, and have been playing catch-up ever since… :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Apr 9, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com wrote: You guys that grew up sailing are lucky, don't

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2014-04-09 Thread Della Barba, Joe
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... Steve - I started at 37, and have been playing catch-up ever since... :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Apr 9, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Stevan Plavsa stevanpla

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2014-04-09 Thread OldSteveH
ON -- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 09:24:54 -0400 From: Colin Kilgour charliekilo...@gmail.com To: CC List CnC-List@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... Message-ID: CAKR-nkmyfm0xJ=caLkYw5P=cfwt7rxd39zpg0gahouf9xl6...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text

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2014-04-09 Thread Jerome Tauber
-Original Message- From: Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com To: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wed, Apr 9, 2014 11:07 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... You guys that grew up sailing are lucky, don't forget it. I started sailing at 30

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2014-04-09 Thread Della Barba, Joe
27 MKV -Original Message- From: Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.commailto:stevanpla...@gmail.com To: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wed, Apr 9, 2014 11:07 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... You guys that grew up sailing

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2014-04-09 Thread Robert Boyer
I followed Charlotte's blog for some time and was wondering why it stopped all of a sudden. I could tell that their trip was not going to last long but I thought they would return to Mexico after a few days at sea. However, risk is one of the things that attracts us to sailing. Bob Boyer

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2014-04-09 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar
09, 2014 10:44 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman

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2014-04-09 Thread Marek Dziedzic
would certainly take my kid(s). Of course, all the comments about good seamanship still apply. Marek From: Dr. Mark Bodnar Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 1:22 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... I agree wholeheartedly. Society, in our

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2014-04-09 Thread Jack Brennan
As an old newspaper guy and web producer, I’ll say this clearly is a case of a blogger knowing how to stir the pot to get a great deal of clicks and attention ... The fact is that there are many families out there cruising with small children and nothing bad happens, just as there are families

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2014-04-09 Thread Kim Brown
I can prove I was a bad parent too: kimcbrown.com/MartaGrinds.html You really aren't supposed to let them suck their pacifiers- my dentist said so.. Clearly Rebel Heart was overly ambitious given the budget and green but it does appear as if they weren't totally clueless. They seem to have

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2014-04-09 Thread charliekilo552
Good point about Dave and Jaja. Reading their stories in the 90’s was a huge inspiration to us when we were making our plans to take off in 2009. I still have one of their Cruising World cover stories as bathroom reading in our basement (the one where he’s standing on the spreaders in a

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2014-04-09 Thread Wally Bryant
OldSteveH wrote: snip Good planning, risk analysis and contingency planning are essential to a successful long distance sailing trip. Yes unforeseen stuff can happen to the boat, but I'm still talking about those children. If these people had done proper trip planning they would have assessed

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2014-04-09 Thread Colin Kilgour
I don't think anyone is suggesting that there are no risks when you go to sea. (Spoiler Alert: There are plenty) The key is to understand them and to take prudent steps to manage them. But even if you do that, bad luck can still happen. (And it does from time to time) From what I understand of

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2014-04-09 Thread dwight
Not so bad; we were all there once unless he is the lady in the picture _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe Sent: April 9, 2014 11:50 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... Good

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2014-04-09 Thread dwight
Bold enough to say 'it shows _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G Street Sent: April 9, 2014 1:00 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... Steve - I started at 37, and have been playing

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2014-04-09 Thread dwight
Big gap.not sure about osmosis but everything is a learning eaperience _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan Plavsa Sent: April 9, 2014 12:06 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... You guys

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2014-04-09 Thread dwight
. Jerome Tauber, CC 27 MKV -Original Message- From: Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com To: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wed, Apr 9, 2014 11:07 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... You guys that grew up sailing are lucky, don't forget it. I started

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2014-04-09 Thread dwight
-list.com Sent: Wed, Apr 9, 2014 11:07 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... You guys that grew up sailing are lucky, don't forget it. I started sailing at 30 and closing the gap on things that you simply learn by osmosis growing up around sailors is hard

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2014-04-09 Thread dwight
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Mark Bodnar Sent: April 9, 2014 2:23 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... I agree wholeheartedly. Society, in our attempt to make idiot proof, is making our lives so full of rules

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2014-04-09 Thread Russ Melody
-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Mark Bodnar Sent: April 9, 2014 2:23 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... I agree wholeheartedly. Society, in our attempt to make idiot proof, is making our lives so full of rules and regulations