On my C&C 35-1 I put in a T and another valve between the through hull and the 
raw water strainer, attached a hose the after the T and its valve and ran the 
1" ID hose into the lowest point of the bilge.  To winterize or use the engine 
as an emergency bilge pump I close the through hull valve and open the bilge 
valve and can pump water or a bilge full of RV potable water system anti-freeze 
through the whole raw water plumbing for the engine and of course out the 
exhaust.  This is very handy for running the engine on dry land for maintenance 
or warm up prior to the spring launch.

John Maturo

Ă€she, Baltic 39 (Robby Ball C&C design and markings)

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   1. Re:  Winterizing Advice sought for C&C34 (johnr...@aol.com)
   2. Re:  Winterizing Advice sought for C&C34 (David Risch)
   3. Re:  Winterizing Advice sought for C&C34 (Andrew Burton)
   4. Re:  Headliner access panels (Sam Salter)
   5. Re:  Winterizing Advice sought for C&C34 (Marek Dziedzic)
   6. Re:  Winterizing Advice sought for C&C34 (S?bastien Lemieux)
   7.  Winterizing Advice sought for C&C34 (Robert Abbott)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:16:51 -0500 (EST)
From: johnr...@aol.com
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing Advice sought for C&C34
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This has been done on this boat for years.  You just need to be prudent.  
However, it still makes it easy to do the bucket thing, as well.



-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com>
To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:11 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing Advice sought for C&C34


I've seen advice like this a couple of times. Be very careful about hooking an 
land pressure water hose to your raw water system. As a matter of fact, don't 
do it. You can end up filling the exhaust manifold and the cylinders with 
water, which unsurprisingly, is bad for the engine. Far better to remove the 
raw water intake and put it in a bucket and let the water pump draw water at 
the required rate.

Andrew Burton

Newport, RI

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/


On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:05 PM,  <johnr...@aol.com> wrote:

Or have a very resourceful PO who plumbed in circuit with a valve and hose 
connection that enables one to close off the the outside intake, connect hose 
to outside water source, open the valve in the plumbed in circuit and run the 
engine quite merrily in minutes.


Cheers,
John
"Falcon" -- C&C 29-2



-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Meyer <fastguy1...@yahoo.com>
To: Robert Abbott <robertabb...@eastlink.ca>; cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:44 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing Advice sought for C&C34


Robert and Jonathon, and all,


Thanks for the tips; are there suggestions about best practices when doing oil 
changes on the 34?

Mark





  
 
 
  
  From: Robert Abbott <robertabb...@eastlink.ca>
 To: Mark Meyer <fastguy1...@yahoo.com>; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 9:05 AM
 Subject: Winterizing Advice sought for C&C34
  
 

          
    
Mark:
      
      If your boat in 'on the hard', you will need a few pieces of      
hardware to do the job.....oil pump, garden hose, large bucket and      a 10' 
foot piece of the hose the same diameter as the hose that      attaches to your 
raw water pump.
      
      Remove the hose on the inlet side of your water pump....attach the      
10' piece to the water pump and place the other end in the bucket      in the 
cockpit and fill with water from the garden hose......start      your engine 
and let it run until the engine reaches normal      operating temp......keep 
the water level in the bucket so you are      not sucking in air.
      
      Shut engine down.....change the oil and filter.
      
      Now empty water from the bucket and put your antifreeze in the      
bucket......2 gallons will be more than enough.....start your      engine and 
run until you see antifreeze exiting from your      exhaust.....shut engine 
down.
      
      Some people leave the 10' hose connected to the water pump all      
winter....makes it easy in the Spring to start your engine before      launch 
to retrieve the antifreeze in the engine.  Some disconnect      it and 
reconnect the raw water hose.
      
      Hope this helps.
      
      Bob Abbott
      AZURA
      C&C 32 - 84
      Halifax, N.S.
      
      
      
      
      
      On 2012/11/12 11:03 PM, Mark Meyer wrote:
    
    
      
Hi List,
        
        Short season for me this year, bought our C&C34 this spring        and 
did a lot
        to bring her back to where she needs to be. But I'm late        
winterizing the Diesel 
        engine and am looking for advice and tricks to speed me through        
getting
        this engine done.
        
        Any Advice?
        
        
        Thanks in advance,
        
        
        Mark Meyer
        SV Freedom, Whitehall MI
        

        
      
      
      
      
      
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Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:20:23 -0500
From: David Risch <davidrisc...@msn.com>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
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Until I did the y-valve install, so did I...but I thought the heat exchanger 
protected the closed loop of the engine from any excess pressure.  Assuming, of 
course, its a fresh water cooled engine...Raw water cooled...another story.

David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)


To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
From: johnr...@aol.com
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:16:51 -0500
Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing Advice sought for C&C34

This has been done on this boat for years.  You just need to be prudent.  
However, it still makes it easy to do the bucket thing, as well.






-----Original Message-----

From: Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com>

To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>

Sent: Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:11 pm

Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing Advice sought for C&C34












I've seen advice like this a couple of times. Be very careful about hooking an 
land pressure water hose to your raw water system. As a matter of fact, don't 
do it. You can end up filling the exhaust manifold and the cylinders with 
water, which unsurprisingly, is bad for the engine. Far better to remove the 
raw water intake and put it in a bucket and let the water pump draw water at 
the required rate.





Andrew Burton



Newport, RI



http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/




On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:05 PM,  <johnr...@aol.com> wrote:



Or have a very resourceful PO who plumbed in circuit with a valve and hose 
connection that enables one to close off the the outside intake, connect hose 
to outside water source, open the valve in the plumbed in circuit and run the 
engine quite merrily in minutes.








Cheers,



John



"Falcon" -- C&C 29-2










-----Original Message-----


From: Mark Meyer <fastguy1...@yahoo.com>


To: Robert Abbott <robertabb...@eastlink.ca>; cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>


Sent: Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:44 pm


Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing Advice sought for C&C34

















Robert and Jonathon, and all,








Thanks for the tips; are there suggestions about best practices when 


doing oil changes on the 34?





Mark
















  

 

 

    From: Robert Abbott <robertabb...@eastlink.ca>


 To: Mark Meyer <fastguy1...@yahoo.com>; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 




 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 9:05 AM


 Subject: Winterizing Advice sought for
 C&C34


  

 





  

    
  
  


    

Mark:



      



      If your boat in 'on the hard', you will need a few pieces of
      hardware to do the job.....oil pump, garden hose, large bucket and
      a 10' foot piece of the hose the same diameter as the hose that
      attaches to your raw water pump.



      



      Remove the hose on the inlet side of your water pump....attach the
      10' piece to the water pump and place the other end in the bucket
      in the cockpit and fill with water from the garden hose......start
      your engine and let it run until the engine reaches normal
      operating temp......keep the water level in the bucket so you are
      not sucking in air.



      



      Shut engine down.....change the oil and filter.



      



      Now empty water from the bucket and put your antifreeze in the
      bucket......2 gallons will be more than enough.....start your
      engine and run until you see antifreeze exiting from your
      exhaust.....shut engine down.



      



      Some people leave the 10' hose connected to the water pump all
      winter....makes it easy in the Spring to start your engine before
      launch to retrieve the antifreeze in the engine.  Some disconnect
      it and reconnect the raw water hose.



      



      Hope this helps.



      



      Bob Abbott



      AZURA



      C&C 32 - 84



      Halifax, N.S.



      



      



      



      



      



      On 2012/11/12 11:03 PM, Mark Meyer wrote:



    


    
      

Hi List,



        



        Short season for me this year, bought our C&C34 this spring
        and did a lot



        to bring her back to where she needs to be. But I'm late
        winterizing the Diesel 



        engine and am looking for advice and tricks to speed me through
        getting



        this engine done.



        



        Any Advice?



        



        



        Thanks in advance,



        



        



        Mark Meyer



        SV Freedom, Whitehall MI



        





        


      


      



      
      



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Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:39:57 -0500
From: Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing Advice sought for C&C34
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Well, be careful. I had a mechanic--hired by the owner--do that on the big 
Volvo on a Swan 65 once. Had to replace the engine!

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:16 PM, <johnr...@aol.com> wrote:

> This has been done on this boat for years.  You just need to be prudent.
>  However, it still makes it easy to do the bucket thing, as well.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com>
> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Sent: Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:11 pm
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing Advice sought for C&C34
>
>  I've seen advice like this a couple of times. Be very careful about 
> hooking an land pressure water hose to your raw water system. As a 
> matter of fact, don't do it. You can end up filling the exhaust 
> manifold and the cylinders with water, which unsurprisingly, is bad 
> for the engine. Far better to remove the raw water intake and put it 
> in a bucket and let the water pump draw water at the required rate.
>
> Andrew Burton
>
> Newport, RI
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:05 PM, <johnr...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Or have a very resourceful PO who plumbed in circuit with a valve and 
>> hose connection that enables one to close off the the outside intake, 
>> connect hose to outside water source, open the valve in the plumbed 
>> in circuit and run the engine quite merrily in minutes.
>>
>>  Cheers,
>> John
>> "Falcon" -- C&C 29-2
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mark Meyer <fastguy1...@yahoo.com>
>> To: Robert Abbott <robertabb...@eastlink.ca>; cnc-list < 
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> Sent: Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:44 pm
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing Advice sought for C&C34
>>
>>  Robert and Jonathon, and all,
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the tips; are there suggestions about best practices when 
>> doing oil changes on the 34?
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>    ------------------------------
>> *From:* Robert Abbott <robertabb...@eastlink.ca>
>> *To:* Mark Meyer <fastguy1...@yahoo.com>; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2012 9:05 AM
>> *Subject:* Winterizing Advice sought for C&C34
>>
>>  Mark:
>>
>> If your boat in 'on the hard', you will need a few pieces of hardware 
>> to do the job.....oil pump, garden hose, large bucket and a 10' foot 
>> piece of the hose the same diameter as the hose that attaches to your raw 
>> water pump.
>>
>> Remove the hose on the inlet side of your water pump....attach the 10'
>> piece to the water pump and place the other end in the bucket in the 
>> cockpit and fill with water from the garden hose......start your 
>> engine and let it run until the engine reaches normal operating 
>> temp......keep the water level in the bucket so you are not sucking in air.
>>
>> Shut engine down.....change the oil and filter.
>>
>> Now empty water from the bucket and put your antifreeze in the
>> bucket......2 gallons will be more than enough.....start your engine 
>> and run until you see antifreeze exiting from your exhaust.....shut engine 
>> down.
>>
>> Some people leave the 10' hose connected to the water pump all 
>> winter....makes it easy in the Spring to start your engine before 
>> launch to retrieve the antifreeze in the engine.  Some disconnect it 
>> and reconnect the raw water hose.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Bob Abbott
>> AZURA
>> C&C 32 - 84
>> Halifax, N.S.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2012/11/12 11:03 PM, Mark Meyer wrote:
>>
>> Hi List,
>>
>> Short season for me this year, bought our C&C34 this spring and did a 
>> lot to bring her back to where she needs to be. But I'm late 
>> winterizing the Diesel engine and am looking for advice and tricks to 
>> speed me through getting this engine done.
>>
>> Any Advice?
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>>
>> Mark Meyer
>> SV Freedom, Whitehall MI
>>
>>
>>
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Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 16:58:24 -0700
From: Sam Salter <sam.c.sal...@gmail.com>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
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Gary,
I was sailing around Rock Hall and Oxford. Didn't get to St Michaels.
Also went into Baltimore inner Harbour - had Ravens tickets!
Much more civilized on the western side, but great sailing over to the east.
Great sun and wind. No rain all week - unusual for the Chesapeake - well when 
we go anyway!
sam :-)
 

On 2012-11-14, at 3:05 PM, "Gary Nylander" <gnylan...@atlanticbb.net> wrote:

> Where were you, Sam? There is actually quite a bit over here, but just not a 
> whole bunch of commercialization, which is the way we like it. We're an hour 
> and a half from DC and Baltimore, so that is enough 'civilization' for most 
> of us.
>  
> And about 5-600 miles of shoreline in our county alone - OK?
>  
> Gary
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sam Salter
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels
> 
> I was sailing the eastern shore of Maryland about 6 weeks ago - your right 
> there is nothing there!
> Get it online:
> Sailrite: http://www.sailrite.com/3M-Dual-Lock-Type-250-1-Clear
> Amazon, eBay, office depot
> 
> sam :-)
> 
> 
> On 2012-11-14, at 8:44 AM, "Gary Nylander" <gnylan...@atlanticbb.net> wrote:
> 
>> Where do you get it?
>>  
>> Gary
>> 30-1 in the boondocks on the Eastern Shore of Maryland - Lowe's 
>> nearby, but over 50 miles to anything else
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Sam Salter
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:51 PM
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels
>> 
>> Velcro might not be the answer, but I'm almost positive this will:
>> 
>> http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3M-Industrial/Adhesives/P
>> romotions-New-Products/Reclosable-Fasteners/
>> 
>> It's like super industrial strength velcro.
>> 
>> It's not cheap but it is reusable. I've not used it for headliners but it 
>> secures my "Velocitek Speed Puck" to the mast (about 1 lb) with a small 
>> piece about  1 1/2" x 4". This stuff bites! We take it all over the world 
>> when we sail and it's conquered big winds and big seas.
>> 
>> sam :-)
>> C7C 26  Liquorice
>> Ghost Lake  Alberta
>> 
>> 
>> On 13/11/12 4:42 PM, Jake Brodersen wrote:
>>> 
>>> Joel,
>>> I plan on replacing some of mine.  I am thinking about using plastic 
>>> sheeting.  I stripped of the peeling vinyl a long time ago and just painted 
>>> the wood.  It is only 1/8? thick.  ?? plywood would be hard to keep up 
>>> there using the stock Velcro.  I might screw my next set on, as the Velcro 
>>> just doesn?t seem to work well, especially in rough conditions.
>>> Jake
>>> Jake Brodersen
>>> C&C 35 Mk-III
>>> "Midnight Mistress
>>> Hampton VA
>>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of 
>>> Joel Aronson
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 1:43 PM
>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> Subject: Stus-List Headliner access panels Several of the panels 
>>> have delaminated.  1/4 inch plywood would be too thick.  Is there a better 
>>> replacement?  Has anyone either re-used the vinyl or found a replacement?  
>>> What glue would you use?
>>> Thanks!
>>> --
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>>> 301 541 8551
>>> 
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Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 21:47:23 -0500
From: Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com>
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I haven't tried it myself, but I read many times in various forums about making 
a hole on top of the oil filter with a screwdriver to drain the oil from it.
Might be worth a try.

Marek (s/v Fennel) in Ottawa
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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 08:34:30 -0500
From: S?bastien Lemieux <s.lemi...@umontreal.ca>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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My understanding was that if the water flows from the hose at a greater rate 
than it can be pushed by the exhaust gas from the muffler to the thruhull then 
water will accumulate between the muffler and the mixing elbow.  Eventually it 
will overflow on the wrong side of the mixing elbow into the cylinder...  
leading to catastrophic consequences.  If my understanding is correct, the 
situation would be the same for a fresh or raw water cooled engine.

I think it is just much easier to rely on the raw water pump to determine the 
water flow using the bucket trick.  I need the bucket setup in any case for 
feeding antifreeze, so I simply put the hose in the bucket for running the 
engine.

Now this is all theoretical knowledge I got from books and forums.  When I 
changed my impeller this fall, I noticed that the little chambers formed by the 
vanes never overlap both the input and output openings at the same time.  This 
implies that the fresh water pump will limit the flow of water pushed into the 
engine, no matter the flow of water that the hose is set to deliver...  Unless 
the hose pressure is high enough to bypass the vanes.  Or if the y-valve is 
installed after the raw water pump (which would be a very bad idea since the 
pump would run dry).

S?bastien Lemieux
Merlot X - C&C 30 mk2 1987
Mooney Bay - Lake Champlain

On Nov 14, 2012, at 18:20, David Risch wrote:

> Until I did the y-valve install, so did I...but I thought the heat exchanger 
> protected the closed loop of the engine from any excess pressure.  Assuming, 
> of course, its a fresh water cooled engine...Raw water cooled...another story.
> 
> David F. Risch
> 1981 40-2
> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
> 
> 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> From: johnr...@aol.com
> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:16:51 -0500
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing Advice sought for C&C34
> 
> This has been done on this boat for years.  You just need to be prudent.  
> However, it still makes it easy to do the bucket thing, as well.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com>
> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Sent: Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:11 pm
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing Advice sought for C&C34
> 
> I've seen advice like this a couple of times. Be very careful about hooking 
> an land pressure water hose to your raw water system. As a matter of fact, 
> don't do it. You can end up filling the exhaust manifold and the cylinders 
> with water, which unsurprisingly, is bad for the engine. Far better to remove 
> the raw water intake and put it in a bucket and let the water pump draw water 
> at the required rate.
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 
> Newport, RI
> 
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> 
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:05 PM, <johnr...@aol.com> wrote:
> Or have a very resourceful PO who plumbed in circuit with a valve and hose 
> connection that enables one to close off the the outside intake, connect hose 
> to outside water source, open the valve in the plumbed in circuit and run the 
> engine quite merrily in minutes.
> 
> Cheers,
> John
> "Falcon" -- C&C 29-2
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Meyer <fastguy1...@yahoo.com>
> To: Robert Abbott <robertabb...@eastlink.ca>; cnc-list 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Sent: Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:44 pm
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing Advice sought for C&C34
> 
> Robert and Jonathon, and all,
> 
> 
> Thanks for the tips; are there suggestions about best practices when 
> doing oil changes on the 34?
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> From: Robert Abbott <robertabb...@eastlink.ca>
> To: Mark Meyer <fastguy1...@yahoo.com>; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 9:05 AM
> Subject: Winterizing Advice sought for C&C34
> 
> Mark:
> 
> If your boat in 'on the hard', you will need a few pieces of hardware to do 
> the job.....oil pump, garden hose, large bucket and a 10' foot piece of the 
> hose the same diameter as the hose that attaches to your raw water pump.
> 
> Remove the hose on the inlet side of your water pump....attach the 10' piece 
> to the water pump and place the other end in the bucket in the cockpit and 
> fill with water from the garden hose......start your engine and let it run 
> until the engine reaches normal operating temp......keep the water level in 
> the bucket so you are not sucking in air.
> 
> Shut engine down.....change the oil and filter.
> 
> Now empty water from the bucket and put your antifreeze in the bucket......2 
> gallons will be more than enough.....start your engine and run until you see 
> antifreeze exiting from your exhaust.....shut engine down.
> 
> Some people leave the 10' hose connected to the water pump all 
> winter....makes it easy in the Spring to start your engine before launch to 
> retrieve the antifreeze in the engine.  Some disconnect it and reconnect the 
> raw water hose.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Bob Abbott
> AZURA
> C&C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2012/11/12 11:03 PM, Mark Meyer wrote:
> Hi List,
> 
> Short season for me this year, bought our C&C34 this spring and did a 
> lot to bring her back to where she needs to be. But I'm late 
> winterizing the Diesel engine and am looking for advice and tricks to 
> speed me through getting this engine done.
> 
> Any Advice?
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> 
> Mark Meyer
> SV Freedom, Whitehall MI
> 
> 
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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 09:59:48 -0400
From: Robert Abbott <robertabb...@eastlink.ca>
To: Mark Meyer <fastguy1...@yahoo.com>
Cc: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Stus-List Winterizing Advice sought for C&C34
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Mark:

If your oil filter screws into the side of the engine, here's what I do 
when removing the old one.    Take a newspaper and place it so that the 
top of the paper is directly under the oil filter and fold it a little until 
the bottom of the paper has been placed in a container (1 quart ice cream works 
great)..at about a 45 deg. angle.  The idea is that as you unscrew the oil 
filter, the oil will drop to the paper and run directly into the plastic 
container and not all over the engine and engine compartment.  When you have 
removed the filter from the engine, slide it down the paper as well to the 
container.  Dump oil from the filter into the container and then the old oil to 
your larger recycle oil container.



Bob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.



On 2012/11/14 5:44 PM, Mark Meyer wrote:
> Robert and Jonathon, and all,
>
>
> Thanks for the tips; are there suggestions about best practices when 
> doing oil changes on the 34?
>
> Mark
>
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