Re: [cobbler] Wiki port of manage docs now up / edit away!

2012-02-14 Thread Greg Swift
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 11:08, James Cammarata j...@sngx.net wrote: Hand crafted? With an old-style boot? But in my view the whole point of cobbler installation is the opposite. Isn't it to have a high-quality, reliable, automated production line for multiple instances of machines?

Re: [cobbler] Wiki port of manage docs now up / edit away!

2012-02-14 Thread Michael DeHaan
Yes, I've been slack and didn't draw anything up, but I'm vetoing the boot favicon. Boot gravely offends me :) Just a letter C or generic free gear icon or something would be better as a temporary measure. Almost anything. On Tuesday, February 14, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Greg Swift wrote:

Re: [cobbler] Wiki port of manage docs now up / edit away!

2012-02-14 Thread Greg Swift
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 15:44, Michael DeHaan michael.deh...@gmail.comwrote: Yes, I've been slack and didn't draw anything up, but I'm vetoing the boot favicon. Boot gravely offends me :) why? you did name the application, did you not? *cob·bler*/ˈkäblər/Noun: 1. A person who mends

Re: [cobbler] Wiki port of manage docs now up / edit away!

2012-02-14 Thread Michael DeHaan
I just don't like work boots? :) On Tuesday, February 14, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Greg Swift wrote: On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 15:44, Michael DeHaan michael.deh...@gmail.com (mailto:michael.deh...@gmail.com) wrote: Yes, I've been slack and didn't draw anything up, but I'm vetoing the boot

Re: [cobbler] Wiki port of manage docs now up / edit away!

2012-02-14 Thread Greg Swift
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 16:05, Michael DeHaan michael.deh...@gmail.comwrote: I just don't like work boots? :) okay. you didn't comment on the 'c' favicon. ___ cobbler mailing list cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org

Re: [cobbler] Wiki port of manage docs now up / edit away!

2012-02-14 Thread Michael DeHaan
works4me.send a pull request. On Tuesday, February 14, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Greg Swift wrote: On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 16:05, Michael DeHaan michael.deh...@gmail.com (mailto:michael.deh...@gmail.com) wrote: I just don't like work boots? :) okay. you didn't comment on the 'c'

Re: [cobbler] Wiki port of manage docs now up / edit away!

2012-02-14 Thread Greg Swift
so.. my lab got blown away and i've got other stuph i'm trying to finish at the moment so I didn't give this a full bore test... but it looks right... pull request sent. On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 16:13, Michael DeHaan michael.deh...@gmail.comwrote: works4me.send a pull request. On

Re: Wiki port of manage docs now up / edit away!

2011-12-22 Thread David Lee
Michael DeHaaan wrote: For those that are interested in helping with docs, manage docs are now ported over to the Wiki, in a few parts. https://github.com/cobbler/cobbler/wiki/Start%20Here This is pretty much most of the manage, which I think should stay more or less together. If you

Re: Wiki port of manage docs now up / edit away!

2011-12-22 Thread Michael DeHaan
Thanks, totally agree. I was thinking of breaking things up into subpages. We might as well just make all these pages link directly from User Docs and Start Here may eventually go away or just become a subhead. The Wiki does document cobbler import … and there are examples at the bottom in

Re: Wiki port of manage docs now up / edit away!

2011-12-22 Thread Greg Swift
So... when I was redoing the web interface one of the things I had in my mind was that it would be nice if there was more on the welcome page than just a welcome. My thought was to have a generic description of the left hand menu items, but since you are working on this document, it might be kind

Re: Wiki port of manage docs now up / edit away!

2011-12-22 Thread James Cammarata
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Greg Swift gregsw...@gmail.com wrote: So... when I was redoing the web interface one of the things I had in my mind was that it would be nice if there was more on the welcome page than just a welcome.  My thought was to have a generic description of the left

Re: Wiki port of manage docs now up / edit away!

2011-12-22 Thread Michael DeHaan
Write a simple scraper? Yeah, if it had a link back to the Wiki at the bottom of each page or something, that would rock. I don't want to source the Wiki source in the git repo though, because the Wiki is much easier for people to edit on the fly. Re: the idea of a better welcome page, the

Re: Wiki port of manage docs now up / edit away!

2011-12-22 Thread David Lee
Greg Swift wrote: So... when I was redoing the web interface one of the things I had in my mind was that it would be nice if there was more on the welcome page than just a welcome. My thought was to have a generic description of the left hand menu items, but since you are working on this

Re: Wiki port of manage docs now up / edit away!

2011-12-22 Thread James Cammarata
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 9:49 AM, David Lee david@ecmwf.int wrote: Greg Swift wrote: So... when I was redoing the web interface one of the things I had in my mind was that it would be nice if there was more on the welcome page than just a welcome.  My thought was to have a generic

Re: Wiki port of manage docs now up / edit away!

2011-12-22 Thread Greg Swift
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 09:43, Michael DeHaan michael.deh...@gmail.comwrote: Re: the idea of a better welcome page, the cobbler.github.com site is also at http://github.com/cobbler and can also take pull requests, if someone with web-design chops wants to add some better links to the docs and

Re: Wiki port of manage docs now up / edit away!

2011-12-22 Thread Greg Swift
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 09:50, James Cammarata j...@sngx.net wrote: On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 9:49 AM, David Lee david@ecmwf.int wrote: Greg Swift wrote: So... when I was redoing the web interface one of the things I had in my mind was that it would be nice if there was more on the

Re: Wiki port of manage docs now up / edit away!

2011-12-22 Thread Greg Swift
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 09:53, Greg Swift gregsw...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 09:43, Michael DeHaan michael.deh...@gmail.comwrote: Re: the idea of a better welcome page, the cobbler.github.com site is also at http://github.com/cobbler and can also take pull requests, if

Re: Wiki port of manage docs now up / edit away!

2011-12-22 Thread Michael DeHaan
Yeah, not a fan :) Maybe it's a boot, but if it's a boot, it needs to be a cool mascot-calibre boot, not a dusty 1890's model boot. And hand crafted?I think doing things by hand is what we avoid :) Or maybe there's something about connecting things together that's more appropriate. I

Re: Wiki port of manage docs now up / edit away!

2011-12-22 Thread Greg Swift
The handcrafted was a bit tongue in cheek in reference to the quality that handcrafted provides. I'm down with a competition, but i had a hard enough time getting interest in the process the first time around. Maybe a second try will be better? -greg On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:03, Michael

Re: Wiki port of manage docs now up / edit away!

2011-12-22 Thread Michael DeHaan
Sure, let's go for it. All it takes is a pen and a camera or scanner. Look how far XKCD gets with just stick figures. On Thursday, December 22, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Greg Swift wrote: The handcrafted was a bit tongue in cheek in reference to the quality that handcrafted provides. I'm down

Re: Wiki port of manage docs now up / edit away!

2011-12-22 Thread David Lee
Greg Swift wrote: On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 09:43, Michael DeHaan michael.deh...@gmail.com mailto:michael.deh...@gmail.com wrote: Re: the idea of a better welcome page, the cobbler.github.com http://cobbler.github.com site is also at http://github.com/cobbler and can also take

Re: Wiki port of manage docs now up / edit away!

2011-12-22 Thread David Lee
Michael DeHaan wrote: Thanks, totally agree. [...] Thanks. Glad to that, as a newbie to cobbler, I'm getting this more-or-less right. [...] Then there are a few things that probably don't have pages on them, where we could take them off the main page too. * power management * PXE

Re: Wiki port of manage docs now up / edit away!

2011-12-22 Thread James Cammarata
Hand crafted?  With an old-style boot?  But in my view the whole point of cobbler installation is the opposite.  Isn't it to have a high-quality, reliable, automated production line for multiple instances of machines?  The last thing we want is old-style, geek-in-a-garage sys.admins. spending

Re: Wiki port of manage docs now up / edit away!

2011-12-22 Thread Michael DeHaan
No, there's no reason to limit it, nor any reason to assume the status quo must hold. There's nothing saying koan can't gain more support for more idempotent configuration runs and couldn't be put on a crontab. This is probably an area where it will only grow.Most of the complexity in

Wiki port of manage docs now up / edit away!

2011-12-21 Thread Michael DeHaaan
For those that are interested in helping with docs, manage docs are now ported over to the Wiki, in a few parts. https://github.com/cobbler/cobbler/wiki/Start%20Here This is pretty much most of the manage, which I think should stay more or less together. If you split things into too many