Re: [cobirds] Re: Larimer Woodcock

2015-01-20 Thread 'Mark Obmascik' via Colorado Birds
gmail.com" Cc: "cobirds@googlegroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [cobirds] Re: Larimer Woodcock Educating is helpful knowing that many people will make the right choice when they understand the repercussions of their actions. Unfortunately, this

Re: [cobirds] Re: Larimer Woodcock

2015-01-20 Thread The "Nunn Guy"
Hi Deb and all So, I think we all know we will never solve this problem 100%--people have their own ethics to merge with expected, informal birding ethics norms. We also have diverse groups of people to consider in our problem solving: - Birder (subsets) - Beginner - Intermediat

Re: [cobirds] Re: Larimer Woodcock

2015-01-20 Thread 'Deborah Carstensen' via Colorado Birds
Educating is helpful knowing that many people will make the right choice when they understand the repercussions of their actions. Unfortunately, this isn't always true. When I reported a saw-whet owl in Littleton, I only gave the location info to a few people after getting permission from

[cobirds] Re: Larimer Woodcock

2015-01-20 Thread The "Nunn Guy"
Hi all I must say I am always surprised at the ugly discourse that follows when informal rules are violated. Mirroring the likes of our Congressional leaders--by "name calling", etc--is not the way to correct any problem. I think setting our emotions aside and using a sense of civility and t

[cobirds] Re: Larimer Woodcock

2015-01-19 Thread Fawn Simonds
I feel terrible about this. In retrospect I would not have told anyone about the Woodcock. I care way more about the bird than being the one who found it. On Sunday, January 18, 2015 at 3:40:46 PM UTC-7, Dave Leatherman wrote: > > Birders and photographers and others with binoculars and cameras,

Re: [cobirds] Re: Larimer Woodcock

2015-01-19 Thread Connie Kogler
I absolutely agree 100% with Eric on this one. Well written, my friend. When I had the privilege of an extremely rare bird in my yard in 2007, I had over 400 people visit my home to view the Streak-backed Oriole under pretty strict conditions. Still, there was a select group that chose to not

Re: [cobirds] Re: Larimer Woodcock

2015-01-19 Thread Ira Sanders
Well said Dave and Eric. I think that the numbskulls need to be outed and treated as the pariahs they deserve to be. If I'm doing something stupid like that I expect to be called on it. I hope the morons who are doing it here and other places get called out in public. Ira Sanders Golden, CO On S

Re: [cobirds] Re: Larimer Woodcock

2015-01-18 Thread Eric DeFonso
Austin, Please, do NOT blame yourself for the bad behavior of others. And please do NOT begin a habit of keeping outstanding birds like this American Woodcock to yourself the next time you, Fawn, or anyone comes across one. Just because one or perhaps several people do not understand or practice e

[cobirds] Re: Larimer Woodcock

2015-01-18 Thread Austin Hess
Dave...I'm very sorry if posting to COBirds when I found out was not smart of me. I realize that it attracted such a large amount of people...I probably should of known better. Too bad to hear that it has gone over the line. I wish I would of thought over everything better and just kept the bir