Re: Evil setFrame:

2013-09-08 Thread Gerriet M. Denkmann
On 8 Sep 2013, at 12:04, Kyle Sluder k...@ksluder.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 7, 2013, at 09:36 PM, Gerriet M. Denkmann wrote: I try to show a nib (which uses autolayout and which contains among other things a NewView inside an NSClipView inside an NSScrollView ) like this: if (

ARC vs Manual Reference Counting

2013-09-08 Thread livinginlosangeles
Would anyone agree me that ARC introduces more rules and considerations than previously existed with manual reference counting? On Sep 8, 2013, at 12:00 PM, cocoa-dev-requ...@lists.apple.com wrote: Send Cocoa-dev mailing list submissions to cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com To subscribe or

Re: ARC vs Manual Reference Counting

2013-09-08 Thread Alex Kac
Converting to ARC in some ways - depends. On the whole we’re finding positives with it. Writing new apps with it its superb. On September 8, 2013 at 10:44:41 PM, livinginlosange...@mac.com (livinginlosange...@mac.com) wrote: Would anyone agree me that ARC introduces more rules and

Re: ARC vs Manual Reference Counting

2013-09-08 Thread Paul Scott
Yes. I do. Absolutely. Sent from my iPad On Sep 8, 2013, at 9:41 PM, livinginlosange...@mac.com wrote: Would anyone agree me that ARC introduces more rules and considerations than previously existed with manual reference counting? ___ Cocoa-dev

Re: ARC vs Manual Reference Counting

2013-09-08 Thread Patrick Cusack
Apologies. I have no desire to start an internecine war. I have been reading up on ARC for the past few hours. I also watched the WWDC video on ARC, and after having watched and read everything, I kept feeling as if I was rather comfortable with the old manual memory model. I guess my real

Re: ARC vs Manual Reference Counting

2013-09-08 Thread Jens Alfke
On Sep 8, 2013, at 10:43 PM, Patrick Cusack livinginlosange...@mac.com wrote: Apologies. I have no desire to start an internecine war. I have been reading up on ARC for the past few hours. I also watched the WWDC video on ARC As with anything complex, it’ll take more than a few hours of