Re: Core Data design question: receiving KVO notifications of partially mutated objects

2009-11-03 Thread Sean McBride
On 11/2/09 12:58 PM, Ben Trumbull said: This doesn't really have anything to do with Core Data. However, for NSManagedObject, Core Data already provides the change coalescing and NSNotifications for you. You can respond within NSManagedObjectContextObjectsDidChangeNotification instead. So I

re: Core Data design question: receiving KVO notifications of partially mutated objects

2009-11-02 Thread Ben Trumbull
What is considered best practice when it comes to mutating many properties of a managed object, specifically with regard to KVO observers getting notified before all mutations are finished? This is a problem intrinsic to the design of KVO. KVO is all about fine grained per property

Re: Core Data design question: receiving KVO notifications of partially mutated objects

2009-11-02 Thread Sean McBride
Graham, Thanks for the detailed reply! I'd say you're going down the wrong path there. Agreed, hence my post. :) Set each property individually. Yes, it will trigger a notification for each one - doesn't or shouldn't matter, and unless you can show it causes a performance problem, shouldn't be

Re: Core Data design question: receiving KVO notifications of partially mutated objects

2009-11-02 Thread Sean McBride
On 11/2/09 12:58 PM, Ben Trumbull said: What is considered best practice when it comes to mutating many properties of a managed object, specifically with regard to KVO observers getting notified before all mutations are finished? This is a problem intrinsic to the design of KVO. KVO is all

Re: Core Data design question: receiving KVO notifications of partially mutated objects

2009-11-02 Thread Ben Trumbull
If your issue is that drawing or recalculation is occurring too frequently after KVO changes, you can consider coalescing and deferring the observers' actions instead of performing them synchronously. This can be valuable even for less complex KVO issues. You could also refactor the 3

Core Data design question: receiving KVO notifications of partially mutated objects

2009-10-30 Thread Sean McBride
Hi all, What is considered best practice when it comes to mutating many properties of a managed object, specifically with regard to KVO observers getting notified before all mutations are finished? Let's say I have an Rectangle object. It has properties: colour, width, height. Imagine some

Re: Core Data design question: receiving KVO notifications of partially mutated objects

2009-10-30 Thread Kiel Gillard
On 31/10/2009, at 9:01 AM, Sean McBride wrote: Hi all, What is considered best practice when it comes to mutating many properties of a managed object, specifically with regard to KVO observers getting notified before all mutations are finished? In situations like these I personally tend to

Re: Core Data design question: receiving KVO notifications of partially mutated objects

2009-10-30 Thread Graham Cox
Hi Sean, I'd say you're going down the wrong path there. Set each property individually. Yes, it will trigger a notification for each one - doesn't or shouldn't matter, and unless you can show it causes a performance problem, shouldn't be a cause for worry on that score. It won't cause