The debate on what is or isn't a legally binding EULA isn't
appropriate for this list.
Unfortunately, this is getting out of hand.
Everyone, please stop contributing to this thread.
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Please do n
Be patient, the official discutable iPhone SDK is annonced for the
next month (probably a couple of weeks now).
The time your letter reaches Apple, it will no longer be under NDA.
Le 21 mai 08 à 18:18, Ilan Volow a écrit :
I keep thinking that all the energy spent on the list discussing the
Once again..
Discussion of the iPhone SDK on this list violates the Non-Disclosure
Agreement.
Do not discuss this here.
Scott
moderator
On May 21, 2008, at 7:12 AM, Vijay Malhan wrote:
Hi,
I'm planning to write a framework on iPhone, just similar to any
other Cocoa
framework on Mac OS
I keep thinking that all the energy spent on the list discussing the
iPhone and how we're not supposed to be discussing the iPhone could
be better spent drafting some sort of joint letter to Apple
stockholders explaining that iPhone developers' inability discuss and
jointly figure out the
On May 21, 2008, at 8:46 AM, Michael Ash wrote:
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 7:24 PM, I. Savant
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
We are not allowed to "talk in public" about the iphone
apisyet..Is
called "DNA"
Well, no, it's called "NDA", which stands for "non-disclosure
agreement".
It's that
On May 21, 2008, at 9:46 AM, Michael Ash wrote:
I "agreed" to similar contracts every time I've installed Mac OS X and
Xcode and nobody ever got annoyed when I talked about *those* in a
public forum.
You agreed, not "agreed". Checking the box is legally binding. It
doesn't matter if you've
Savant,Right, coming back to that, my actual question to the forum was that
"If I can write my own framework and deploy it on an iPhone". I was not
discussing about any of the API so far, so I was not violating any
agreement/contract.
I got my answer from the SDK Agreement itself (Section 3.2.2- po
Savant,Right, coming back to that, my actual question to the forum was that
"If I can write my own framework and deploy it on an iPhone". I was not
discussing about any of the API so far, so I was not violating any
agreement/contract.
I got my answer from the SDK Agreement itself (Section 3.2.2- po
> I "agreed" to similar contracts every time I've installed Mac OS X and
> Xcode and nobody ever got annoyed when I talked about *those* in a
> public forum.
If you're referring to to the EULA, none of those forbid you to
publicly discuss the technology, ie, they're not non-disclosure
agreements
My point remains - you agreed to something. Whether you read it
fully or not (and until successfully challenged in court probably
several times), it is binding. Apple's sandbox, apple's rules.
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On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 7:24 PM, I. Savant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> We are not allowed to "talk in public" about the iphone apisyet..Is
>> called "DNA"
>
> Well, no, it's called "NDA", which stands for "non-disclosure agreement".
> It's that pesky legal contract you agreed to in order to
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Subject: Re: Writing Cocoa framework's for iPhone
> We are not allowed to "talk in public" about the iphone
> apisyet..Is
> called "DNA"
Well, no, it's called "NDA", which stands for "non-disclosure
agreement". It&#
Which as we all know, and probably all do, simply click through
without a second thought or glance.
I think if this ever comes to court a precedent will be set that
basically makes all on-screen presented "contracts" with an OK button
null and void, since there is absolutely no feedback in
> We are not allowed to "talk in public" about the iphone apisyet..Is
>> called "DNA"
>>
>
> Well, no, it's called "NDA", which stands for "non-disclosure agreement".
> It's that pesky legal contract you agreed to in order to gain access to the
> iPhone SDK that says "DO NOT TALK ABOUT THE SDK
We are not allowed to "talk in public" about the iphone
apisyet..Is
called "DNA"
Well, no, it's called "NDA", which stands for "non-disclosure
agreement". It's that pesky legal contract you agreed to in order to
gain access to the iPhone SDK that says "DO NOT TALK ABOUT THE SDK
UNT
Oh! So there is no forum for iPhone development(Official SDK) yet?
Thanks.
Vijay
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Bruno Sanz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Maybe all the messages of this list should bring one header that says "not
> ask about iphone please".. Dont worry i made the same mistake.
>
http://www.cocoabuilder.com/archive/message/cocoa/2008/5/15/206811
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On May 21, 2008, at 7:12 AM, Vijay Malhan wrote:
Hi,
I'm planning to write a framework on iPhone, just similar to any
other Cocoa
framework on Mac OSX.
But so far I'm unable to find any reference on this in
docu
Maybe all the messages of this list should bring one header that says "not
ask about iphone please".. Dont worry i made the same mistake.
We are not allowed to "talk in public" about the iphone apisyet..Is
called "DNA"
2008/5/21 Vijay Malhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi,
> I'm planning to write
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