Re: Cocoon scalability continued

2002-01-02 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > 4) use a transparent proxy in front of your web server: the fastest > response is the one that is not even processed. Cocoon is *very* slow > (compared to a proxy server) to read resources such as stylesheets and > images. A transparent proxy (SQUID,

RequestDispatchers in xsp

2002-01-02 Thread Årun.Ñ
Hi, Is there any way to use request dispatchers in my xsp page. I am using cocoon 2 and there is a problem with the cocoons wrapper classes for request to get the requestDispatcher. I cannot use the redirect approach as there are lot of disadvantages of that like, it is a client pull

Re: Cocoon Logo

2002-01-02 Thread David Crossley
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > Robert Koberg wrote: > > ...opinion... > > > > I definitely don't like the first one. I would like the 2cnd one more if it > > did not have the dots/eyes. My first impression is that it has something to > > do with the "following eyes" (eyes follow the mouse pointer).

Re: [RT] Managing Flow and Resources

2002-01-02 Thread Ovidiu Predescu
Hi Judson, and Happy New Year! [I've Cc-ed the mailing list as well.] I hope this reply does not come too late ;-), but I left on holidays the day after you sent the message, and didn't have time to respond to it. On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 13:28:57 -0600, Judson Lester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > O

Re: Resolution/validation woes

2002-01-02 Thread David Crossley
Hi Gianugo, i had the beginnings of a new Cocoon Sample to show how to use the Simplified DocBook DTD. So i have now committed that to CVS to give you a kick-start. You will need to add a "local-catalog" parameter to your webapp/cocoon.xconf (see attached diff). You will also need a correspondin

cvs commit: xml-cocoon2/webapp/resources/entities CatalogManager.properties

2002-01-02 Thread crossley
crossley02/01/02 16:39:05 Modified:documentation cocoon.xconf webapp cocoon.xconf webapp/resources/entities CatalogManager.properties Log: Tweaked internal doco about verbosity levels for the entity resolver. Revision ChangesPath 1.7

cvs commit: xml-cocoon2/webapp/docs/samples/catalog article.xml sdocbook2body.xsl

2002-01-02 Thread crossley
crossley02/01/02 16:28:36 Added: webapp/docs/samples/catalog article.xml sdocbook2body.xsl Log: Starting work on new Sample for Simplified DocBook and entity resolver. Revision ChangesPath 1.1 xml-cocoon2/webapp/docs/samples/catalog/article.xml In

cvs commit: xml-cocoon2/webapp sitemap.xmap

2002-01-02 Thread crossley
crossley02/01/02 16:26:13 Modified:webapp sitemap.xmap Log: Starting work on new Sample for Simplified DocBook and entity resolver. Revision ChangesPath 1.74 +6 -0 xml-cocoon2/webapp/sitemap.xmap Index: sitemap.xmap

new paper on Web & continuations from Christian Queinnec

2002-01-02 Thread Ovidiu Predescu
Christian has a newly updated paper on Web applications and continuations available at: http://youpou.lip6.fr/queinnec/Papers/www.ps.gz This paper is a little lightweight than the previous one, and it explains perhaps a bit more the continuations concept in the context of Web apps. I would stil

Re: Cocoon Logo

2002-01-02 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Gianugo Rabellino wrote: > > Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > > > This said, I think the Cocoon1 logo reflects the status of the Cocoon1 > > codebase: people still use it and like it because Cocoon2 is not yet up > > to dethrone it, but it's doomed for future uses so we must have change > > it now tha

Re: Cocoon Logo

2002-01-02 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Torsten Curdt wrote: > > I designed and implemented both logos, so I don't have ego problems. > > Would you have one when calling an logo contest? No, absolutely not. I did once, around Cocoon 1.2 or something, so I helped myself and made one. Then again, people were complaining but not helpin

Re: Cocoon Logo

2002-01-02 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
David Crossley wrote: > > Many thanks Stefano for taking the time to explain the > rationale behind a new logo. You're welcome. > You have presented very > sound technical, usability, and design reasons. Really? thanks :) I thought I was just sick of answering "that the heck is that" for the

Re: Cocoon Logo

2002-01-02 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Robert Koberg wrote: > > ...opinion... > > I definitely don't like the first one. I would like the 2cnd one more if it > did not have the dots/eyes. My first impression is that it has something to > do with the "following eyes" (eyes follow the mouse pointer). This > animation/interaction is li

Re: Cocoon Logo

2002-01-02 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > Stefano, what happened to the cool new Cocoon style-identity you talked us > about months ago? It was not months ago and it reshaped into a much wider effort codenamed Forrest. When Forrest is functional, Cocoon will benefit as well as all the rest of the XML.apache

Re: Cocoon scalability continued

2002-01-02 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
"Lewis, Andrew J" wrote: > > I am getting ready to recommend Cocoon for a very large project where it will need >to handle immense load. In reality, XSP is more than I need and I don't expect to be >using it. From what I have read, most of the scalability problems seem to be XSP >related - can

cvs commit: xml-cocoon2/scratchpad/schecoon/lib xml-apis.jar

2002-01-02 Thread ovidiu
ovidiu 02/01/02 15:25:33 Removed: scratchpad/schecoon/lib xml-apis.jar Log: Removed. Build and copy the necessary jars in the webapp/ directory at build time instead. -- In case of troubles, e-mail: [EMAIL PR

cvs commit: xml-cocoon2/scratchpad/schecoon/lib xerces-1.4.4.jar

2002-01-02 Thread ovidiu
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cvs commit: xml-cocoon2/scratchpad/schecoon/lib xalan-2.2.0-D13.jar

2002-01-02 Thread ovidiu
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cvs commit: xml-cocoon2/scratchpad/schecoon/lib servlet_2_2.jar

2002-01-02 Thread ovidiu
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cvs commit: xml-cocoon2/scratchpad/schecoon/lib maybeupload_1-0-5pre3.jar

2002-01-02 Thread ovidiu
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cvs commit: xml-cocoon2/scratchpad/schecoon/lib resolver.jar

2002-01-02 Thread ovidiu
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cvs commit: xml-cocoon2/scratchpad/schecoon/lib lucene-1.2-rc2.jar

2002-01-02 Thread ovidiu
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cvs commit: xml-cocoon2/scratchpad/schecoon/lib logkit-20011212.jar

2002-01-02 Thread ovidiu
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cvs commit: xml-cocoon2/scratchpad/schecoon/lib jakarta-regexp-1.2.jar

2002-01-02 Thread ovidiu
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cvs commit: xml-cocoon2/scratchpad/schecoon/lib hsqldb-1.61.jar

2002-01-02 Thread ovidiu
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cvs commit: xml-cocoon2/scratchpad/schecoon/lib cocoon-20011220.jar

2002-01-02 Thread ovidiu
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cvs commit: xml-cocoon2/scratchpad/schecoon/lib avalon-framework-20011217.jar

2002-01-02 Thread ovidiu
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cvs commit: xml-cocoon2/scratchpad/schecoon/lib avalon-excalibur-20011217.jar

2002-01-02 Thread ovidiu
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Re: Resolution/validation woes

2002-01-02 Thread David Crossley
Excuse me, but RTFM must apply here :-) This is the prime example of why we need the Catalog Entity Resolver for Cocoon, and why we have been working hard to get it implemented. Please see the Cocoon docs at http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/userdocs/concepts/catalog.html It even provides an example o

Re: DELI: Open source library supporting CC/PP and UAProf

2002-01-02 Thread Ovidiu Predescu
Mark committed his work in the internal HP CVS tree I used to maintain for my own development. I now need to create a patch and apply it to the main Cocoon tree, but unfortunately the amount of changes that happened in between is quite substantial. I'll try to come up with a patch late this week/e

Re: HAPPY NEW YEAR

2002-01-02 Thread Ovidiu Predescu
Happy New Year all! On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 17:50:59 +0100 (CET), giacomo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 28 Dec 2001, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > > > I really enjoy being in this community and hope that the next year > > will be as interesting as this year. > > I'd like to say that most of us

Re: Why so many jars?

2002-01-02 Thread Ovidiu Predescu
Hi Carsten, and Happy New Year! On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 10:26:09 +0100, "Carsten Ziegeler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > can anyone tell me the reason why we have now several jar files > twice in the HEAD? There is for example avalon, xalan and xerces > in the lib directory and in the scratc

Re: Resolution/validation woes

2002-01-02 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
Berin Loritsch wrote: >> I always try to avoid validation, but this time I have to: while >> playing with a pretty cool DocBook add-on for M$ Word (you might want >> to check it out at http://www.yawcpro.com: it's closed-source yet it >> has a free that does all that is needed to me) I'm faci

Re: cvs commit: xml-cocoon2/src/java - New directory

2002-01-02 Thread giacomo
On 2 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As you can see guys its moving time. I don't know if I can finish it this evening but for sure tomorrow morning 'till about 9:00 European time. Thanks for you patience ;) Giacomo > giacomo 02/01/02 11:36:16 > > xml-cocoon2/src/java - New directory >

Re: Resolution/validation woes

2002-01-02 Thread Berin Loritsch
Gianugo Rabellino wrote: > Looks like it's time to confess how much my hate for DTDs and validation > in general brought me to a deep ignorance and to what seems to be a dead > end alley. > > I always try to avoid validation, but this time I have to: while playing > with a pretty cool DocBook

cvs commit: xml-cocoon2/src/java - New directory

2002-01-02 Thread giacomo
giacomo 02/01/02 11:36:16 xml-cocoon2/src/java - New directory -- In case of troubles, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Resolution/validation woes

2002-01-02 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
Looks like it's time to confess how much my hate for DTDs and validation in general brought me to a deep ignorance and to what seems to be a dead end alley. I always try to avoid validation, but this time I have to: while playing with a pretty cool DocBook add-on for M$ Word (you might want to

RE: Moving directories (was: RE: HAPPY NEW YEAR)

2002-01-02 Thread Gerhard Froehlich
>-Original Message- >From: Carsten Ziegeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 3:02 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Moving directories (was: RE: HAPPY NEW YEAR) > > >Giacomo Pati wrote: >> >> On Fri, 28 Dec 2001, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: >> >> > Hi Cocooners,

RE: Cocoon scalability continued

2002-01-02 Thread Gerhard Froehlich
>-Original Message- >From: Tom Klaasen (TeleRelay) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 4:54 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: Cocoon scalability continued > > >http://www.scoot.be is C2-powered and is tested under quite some load >(100 requests/sec, IIRC) an

RE: [vote] Finer-grained logging categories (was: Re: Over-Logging)

2002-01-02 Thread Gerhard Froehlich
Hi Team, +1 from me! "All the trouble in the world is due to the fact that man cannot sit still in a room. (Blaise Pascal)" >-Original Message- >From: Carsten Ziegeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 8:44 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: [vote] Fi

RE: Cocoon scalability continued

2002-01-02 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Lewis, Andrew J wrote: > I am getting ready to recommend Cocoon for a very large project where > it will need to handle immense load. In reality, XSP is more than I > need and I don't expect to be using it. From what I have read, most of > the scalability problems seem to be

RE: Cocoon scalability continued

2002-01-02 Thread Tom Klaasen (TeleRelay)
Our load tests where done on a single server. IRL there are 2 servers behind a load balancer, but serving 2 sites together (http://www.scoot.nl is the other one, with comparable load). Don't know the actual load ATM, since I don't work for that firm anymore... tomK > -Original Message

RE: Cocoon scalability continued

2002-01-02 Thread Lewis, Andrew J
My performance target is 250 requests/second. I can spread that out over multiple servers though. > -- > From: Tom Klaasen (TeleRelay)[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 10:53 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subjec

RE: Cocoon scalability continued

2002-01-02 Thread Tom Klaasen (TeleRelay)
http://www.scoot.be is C2-powered and is tested under quite some load (100 requests/sec, IIRC) and has also quite some load IRL. No XSP's, indeed, but also no caching (MRUMemoryStore seemed to be leaking in those days. Maybe this has improved in the mean time). Unless your going to develop an eve

RE: Cocoon scalability continued

2002-01-02 Thread Lewis, Andrew J
I am getting ready to recommend Cocoon for a very large project where it will need to handle immense load. In reality, XSP is more than I need and I don't expect to be using it. From what I have read, most of the scalability problems seem to be XSP related - can anyone confrim or reject that th

Re: Cocoon scalability continued

2002-01-02 Thread Berin Loritsch
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > Michael Homeijer wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>This mail is a follow-up to the following mails: >> >>(Cocoon 2 RC2 performance disappointment). >>http://www.mail-archive.com/cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org/msg06455.html >> >>and >> >>(Cocoon 2.0 Scalability Disappointment) >>http://www

Re: Moving directories (was: RE: HAPPY NEW YEAR)

2002-01-02 Thread Torsten Curdt
> > > I'm offline for the next days, but I will be back on wednesday. > > > > I'm not. I'd like to have all committers check in their pending stuff as > > I'd like to restucture the directories as proposed a while back in the > > next few days. It will be much easier for you to have it in the CVS

Moving directories (was: RE: HAPPY NEW YEAR)

2002-01-02 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Giacomo Pati wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Dec 2001, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > > > Hi Cocooners, > > > > I wish you all a happy new year and hope you had a good christmas! > > At this point I'd like to wish you all a happy new year, too. > > > I really enjoy being in this community and hope that the next

RE: Cocoon scalability continued

2002-01-02 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Michael Homeijer wrote: > > Hi, > > This mail is a follow-up to the following mails: > > (Cocoon 2 RC2 performance disappointment). > http://www.mail-archive.com/cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org/msg06455.html > > and > > (Cocoon 2.0 Scalability Disappointment) > http://www.mail-archive.com/cocoon-dev@xml

Cocoon scalability continued

2002-01-02 Thread Michael Homeijer
Hi, This mail is a follow-up to the following mails: (Cocoon 2 RC2 performance disappointment). http://www.mail-archive.com/cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org/msg06455.html and (Cocoon 2.0 Scalability Disappointment) http://www.mail-archive.com/cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org/msg06751.html In the last weeks

Re: Cocoon Logo

2002-01-02 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > This said, I think the Cocoon1 logo reflects the status of the Cocoon1 > codebase: people still use it and like it because Cocoon2 is not yet up > to dethrone it, but it's doomed for future uses so we must have change > it now that we can. > > So, of course, my vote g

Re: Cocoon Logo

2002-01-02 Thread Torsten Curdt
> > Maybe Stefano can give us more background information why the old > > one wasn't good enough and maybe can vote here about it. > > > > 1. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon1/images/cocoon.jpg > > > > 2. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/images/cocoon.gif > > > > Personally I like the 1. best. > > There n