Re: tallying [Re: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docs CVS module]

2003-03-28 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Thursday 27 March 2003 21:48, Jeff Turner wrote: > No.. not more voting! ;) Can't voting be better automated, instead of a lot of +1 emails, that are hard to count (does anyone ever count?). Niclas

Re: tallying [Re: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docs CVS module]

2003-03-27 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Jeudi, 27 mars 2003, à 15:17 Europe/Zurich, Pier Fumagalli a écrit : ... +1 :-) Should I open the repo? +1. As I understand there are no risks associated with this, just need indicate in the announcement that commits to this will affect cocoon-2.1 too, so voting is probably not required for

Re: tallying [Re: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docs CVS module]

2003-03-27 Thread Jeff Turner
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 02:16:02PM +0100, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Le Jeudi, 27 mars 2003, à 13:52 Europe/Zurich, Diana Shannon a écrit : > > >... > >I think a discussion intermixed with a vote changes the vote so that > >people end up voting on different issues -- with no clear cut result. >

Re: tallying [Re: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docs CVS module]

2003-03-27 Thread Diana Shannon
On Thursday, March 27, 2003, at 08:16 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Agreed - in this particular case, the best thing might be to cancel the current vote and make a new proposal (taking into account the "cocoon-docs alias" stuff)? Wasn't Pier going to experiment with this approach and report ba

Re: tallying [Re: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docs CVS module]

2003-03-27 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Jeudi, 27 mars 2003, à 14:31 Europe/Zurich, Steven Noels a écrit : ...It's good to see that the 'requirement' to vote adds some energy to the discussion, but then again, you, Diana & David are mostly right when suggesting that vote was premature and underspecified. I'm the hero of underspeci

Re: tallying [Re: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docs CVS module]

2003-03-27 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Jeudi, 27 mars 2003, à 13:52 Europe/Zurich, Diana Shannon a écrit : ... I think a discussion intermixed with a vote changes the vote so that people end up voting on different issues -- with no clear cut result. Agreed - in this particular case, the best thing might be to cancel the current vo

Re: tallying [Re: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docs CVS module]

2003-03-27 Thread Diana Shannon
On Wednesday, March 26, 2003, at 10:52 PM, David Crossley wrote: Hm. Could be, although this particular subject has been discussed, semi-proposed and whatnot already at some serious length in the past, the usual circular discussion following suit hereafter. I only ever saw haphazard discussion, n

Re: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docs CVS module

2003-03-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mercredi, 26 mars 2003, à 10:45 Europe/Zurich, Stefano Mazzocchi a écrit : So, the proposal is not about forcing docu-oriented people as second-class citizens, but potentially allowing people (or services) that *request* or *need* to be docu-oriented-only to be able to be given karma l

Re: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docs CVS module

2003-03-26 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
David Crossley wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Pier Fumagalli wrote: Folks, do you know that there's the possibility to alias certain subparts of a particular CVS repository from another repository? Like "cocoon-2.1/src/docs" can be stored in the "cocoon-docs" repository. Apache does it alread

RE: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docs CVS module

2003-03-25 Thread John Morrison
> From: Diana Shannon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Locally, referenced via a path set in a configuration file. If code > repos aren't available/downloaded, info can also be looked up online via > a parsed view-cvs data. Still, I don't think it's too much to expect > from committers, to have al

Re: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docs CVS module

2003-03-25 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 24/3/03 9:13 am, "Jeff Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 07:31:39AM +0100, Steven Noels wrote: In order to get one little step closer to the 'new' document infrastructure, many of us seek clarity whether we should move docs to a separate CVS modu

Re: [rant] Re: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docs CVS module

2003-03-24 Thread Diana Shannon
On Monday, March 24, 2003, at 10:34 AM, Steven Noels wrote: My own belly tells me that people will write more and better user documentation if they get some proper playground. Having to worry about code sitting right beside their documents will not bring peace in their minds. Ok, please, expl

Re: [rant] Re: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docs CVS module

2003-03-24 Thread Diana Shannon
On Monday, March 24, 2003, at 09:15 AM, Steven Noels wrote: On 24/03/2003 14:23 Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: I don't expect 2.0 to live long after 2.1 is out. There is no reason to. To be really honest, I'd like to see some facts backing this statement. Not technical facts, but truly compelling re

Re: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docs CVS module

2003-03-24 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Diana Shannon wrote: [ +1 ] creation of cocoon-docs module [ ] docs should stay in src/documentation of the code tree module(s) I feel strongly about this, give the past year of my watching cvs commits. The fact remains that many committers don't update both doc branches when committing doc

Re: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docs CVS module

2003-03-24 Thread Diana Shannon
[ +1 ] creation of cocoon-docs module [ ] docs should stay in src/documentation of the code tree module(s) I feel strongly about this, give the past year of my watching cvs commits. The fact remains that many committers don't update both doc branches when committing docs. If someone needs *

Re: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docs CVS module

2003-03-24 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Steven Noels wrote: In order to get one little step closer to the 'new' document infrastructure, many of us seek clarity whether we should move docs to a separate CVS module or not. The benefits and downfalls are largely known, so let's vote on this and get this issue cleared. My own personal b

Re: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docs CVS module

2003-03-24 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Jeff Turner wrote, On 24/03/2003 10.13: On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 07:31:39AM +0100, Steven Noels wrote: In order to get one little step closer to the 'new' document infrastructure, many of us seek clarity whether we should move docs to a separate CVS module or not. The benefits and downfalls are

Re: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docs CVS module

2003-03-24 Thread Jeff Turner
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 07:31:39AM +0100, Steven Noels wrote: > In order to get one little step closer to the 'new' document > infrastructure, many of us seek clarity whether we should move docs to a > separate CVS module or not. The benefits and downfalls are largely > known, so let's vote on t

Re: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docs CVS module

2003-03-24 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Steven Noels wrote: In order to get one little step closer to the 'new' document infrastructure, many of us seek clarity whether we should move docs to a separate CVS module or not. The benefits and downfalls are largely known, so let's vote on this and get this issue cleared. My own personal

RE: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docs CVS module

2003-03-24 Thread John Morrison
> From: Steven Noels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > In order to get one little step closer to the 'new' document > infrastructure, many of us seek clarity whether we should move docs to a > separate CVS module or not. The benefits and downfalls are largely > known, so let's vote on this and get

[vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docs CVS module

2003-03-23 Thread Steven Noels
In order to get one little step closer to the 'new' document infrastructure, many of us seek clarity whether we should move docs to a separate CVS module or not. The benefits and downfalls are largely known, so let's vote on this and get this issue cleared. My own personal bias: don't forget th