Re: Wiki documentation system

2002-06-10 Thread Michael Wechner
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Monday 10 June 2002 10:41, Michael Wechner wrote: > >>. . . >>But what about setting up a dynamic server in the "background" where a >>CMS is installed and allows emails as "input" and "commiters and >>contributers" can manage the documentation (WYSIWYG or on th

RE: Wiki documentation system

2002-06-10 Thread Steven Noels
> From: Jeremy Quinn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > I do intend to get involved with Forrest, if I can help with > this aspect, then great. Do we need to warm up your seat already? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] F

Re: Wiki documentation system

2002-06-10 Thread Jeremy Quinn
On Monday, June 10, 2002, at 09:51 AM, Steven Noels wrote: > Whether this is done using Wiki/chaperon / slash-edit / XMLForm / > Michael Hartle -style editors, I'm open to anything that is simple and > works across a variety of browsers, as Forrest currently is trying to > do. > I do intend to

Re: Wiki documentation system

2002-06-10 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Monday 10 June 2002 10:41, Michael Wechner wrote: >. . . > But what about setting up a dynamic server in the "background" where a > CMS is installed and allows emails as "input" and "commiters and > contributers" can manage the documentation (WYSIWYG or on the command > line). >... Certainly a

RE: Wiki documentation system

2002-06-10 Thread Steven Noels
> From: Jeremy Quinn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > On Monday, June 10, 2002, at 08:53 AM, Steven Noels wrote: > > >> From: Bertrand Delacretaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > I was thinking of something along these lines for Forrest > > however, where > > non-Cocoon documentors (Xerces, Axis, etc)

Re: Wiki documentation system

2002-06-10 Thread Michael Wechner
As I understand from your conversation is that one of your problems is that you are not allowed to setup a dynamic server. But what about setting up a dynamic server in the "background" where a CMS is installed and allows emails as "input" and "commiters and contributers" can manage the documen

Re: Wiki documentation system

2002-06-10 Thread Jeremy Quinn
On Monday, June 10, 2002, at 08:53 AM, Steven Noels wrote: >> From: Bertrand Delacretaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >> >> On Monday 10 June 2002 09:00, John Morrison wrote: >>> . . . >>> We are not allowed to run a dynamic server. >>> . . . >> >> I know - what Jeremy was suggesting is a mechani

Re: Wiki documentation system

2002-06-10 Thread Bert Van Kets
At 10:05 10/06/2002 +0200, you wrote: >On Monday 10 June 2002 09:53, Steven Noels wrote: > >. . . > > I was thinking of something along these lines for Forrest however, where > > non-Cocoon documentors (Xerces, Axis, etc) probably don't have an > > instance of Cocoon running on their workstation.

Re: Wiki documentation system

2002-06-10 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Monday 10 June 2002 09:53, Steven Noels wrote: >. . . > I was thinking of something along these lines for Forrest however, where > non-Cocoon documentors (Xerces, Axis, etc) probably don't have an > instance of Cocoon running on their workstation. If Cocoon is not available, what might help is

RE: Wiki documentation system

2002-06-10 Thread Steven Noels
> From: Bertrand Delacretaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > On Monday 10 June 2002 09:00, John Morrison wrote: > >. . . > > We are not allowed to run a dynamic server. > >. . . > > I know - what Jeremy was suggesting is a mechanism where the > dynamic part > runs on the user's Cocoon server, and s

Re: Wiki documentation system

2002-06-10 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Monday 10 June 2002 09:00, John Morrison wrote: >. . . > We are not allowed to run a dynamic server. >. . . I know - what Jeremy was suggesting is a mechanism where the dynamic part runs on the user's Cocoon server, and sends doc updates/comments to bugzilla. Kind of a "cocoon feedback cli

RE: Wiki documentation system

2002-06-09 Thread John Morrison
> From: Bertrand Delacretaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > On Friday 07 June 2002 11:37, Jeremy Quinn wrote: > >. . . > > On Friday, June 7, 2002, at 06:12 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > >. . . > > > So a parallel wiki (or whatever) structure is the way to go > > > IMHO, but this > > > comes once

Re: Wiki documentation system

2002-06-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Friday 07 June 2002 11:37, Jeremy Quinn wrote: >. . . > On Friday, June 7, 2002, at 06:12 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: >. . . > > So a parallel wiki (or whatever) structure is the way to go > > IMHO, but this > > comes once again to the question of having a dynamic server for > > the Cocoon w

Re: Wiki documentation system

2002-06-08 Thread Jeremy Quinn
On Friday, June 7, 2002, at 01:51 PM, Diana Shannon wrote: > > On Friday, June 7, 2002, at 05:37 AM, Jeremy Quinn wrote: > >> If we had something similar to BugZilla for documentation, >> that would accept emailed doc updates, then the work of the >> editor could take place on the servers set

Re: Wiki documentation system

2002-06-07 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
From: "Steven Noels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > From: Brian Topping [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > documentation. But if the documentation process (context > > diffs contributed as patches to bugzilla) is more difficult > > than the change itself (maybe a sentence or two in some > > cases), I am

RE: Wiki documentation system

2002-06-07 Thread Steven Noels
> From: Brian Topping [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > documentation. But if the documentation process (context > diffs contributed as patches to bugzilla) is more difficult > than the change itself (maybe a sentence or two in some > cases), I am less inclined to make a contribution since I > also n

RE: Wiki documentation system

2002-06-07 Thread Brian Topping
> -Original Message- > From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Subject: Re: Wiki documentation system > > +1 -- But while we're all talking about all the cool tools we could > develop/use to document...let us not forget the actual > process of cl

Re: Wiki documentation system

2002-06-07 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
+1 -- But while we're all talking about all the cool tools we could develop/use to document...let us not forget the actual process of clicking keys and generating textual content (that could be easily transformed to format-X later) with links and explanations on how to use the already developed/

Re: Wiki documentation system

2002-06-07 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
+1 >My cocoon-wiki pipedreams were along the lines of what you just said. Allow >the user to edit as wiki-syntax, but convert to XML for storage. >-pete > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional comm

Re: Wiki documentation system

2002-06-07 Thread Diana Shannon
On Friday, June 7, 2002, at 05:37 AM, Jeremy Quinn wrote: > If we had something similar to BugZilla for documentation, that would > accept emailed doc updates, then the work of the editor could take > place on the servers set up by the users, and posted to the Doc > BugZilla for checking and

Re: Wiki documentation system

2002-06-07 Thread Jeremy Quinn
On Friday, June 7, 2002, at 06:12 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Friday 07 June 2002 02:35, Diana Shannon wrote: >> . . . >> I agree. I think the dynamic capabilities inherent in Cocoon's >> distribution are underutilized. I'd also like to use it for >> more dynamic >> How-Tos, something t

Re: Wiki documentation system

2002-06-07 Thread Jeremy Quinn
On Thursday, June 6, 2002, at 11:33 PM, Michael Hartle wrote: > Jeremy Quinn wrote: > >> On Thursday, June 6, 2002, at 07:36 PM, Stephen Ng wrote: >> >>> Cocoon doc in wiki format would make it much easier for those >>> of us more >>> casual cocoon users to contribute suggestions, doc bugs, and

Re: Wiki documentation system

2002-06-06 Thread Stephan Michels
On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Peter Royal wrote: > On Thursday 06 June 2002 03:53 pm, Jeremy Quinn wrote: > > Are you sure you want to keep the docs in wiki format, or maybe > > make an editor that allows people to edit XML docs as wiki text > > in a form, having them saved back as XML again. (This is ho

Re: Wiki documentation system

2002-06-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thursday 06 June 2002 21:57, Peter Royal wrote: >. . . > My cocoon-wiki pipedreams were along the lines of what you just said. Allow > the user to edit as wiki-syntax, but convert to XML for storage. >. . . I think all the pieces are here today in Cocoon to implement a wiki along these lines:

Re: Wiki documentation system

2002-06-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Friday 07 June 2002 02:35, Diana Shannon wrote: >. . . > I agree. I think the dynamic capabilities inherent in Cocoon's > distribution are underutilized. I'd also like to use it for more dynamic > How-Tos, something that would extend existing examples. >. . . Yes, it's more about having a dyna

Re: Wiki documentation system

2002-06-06 Thread Diana Shannon
On Thursday, June 6, 2002, at 03:53 PM, Jeremy Quinn wrote: > This gives me wild thoughts, we could make an editor, included in the > standard build, which provides a locally served form-based interface > which allows cocoon users to submit documentation/doc- > updates/doc-patches/recipes etc

Re: Wiki documentation system

2002-06-06 Thread Michael Hartle
Jeremy Quinn wrote: > On Thursday, June 6, 2002, at 07:36 PM, Stephen Ng wrote: > >> Cocoon doc in wiki format would make it much easier for those of us more >> casual cocoon users to contribute suggestions, doc bugs, and minor >> clarifications. > > Are you sure you want to keep the docs in wik

Re: Wiki documentation system

2002-06-06 Thread Peter Royal
On Thursday 06 June 2002 03:53 pm, Jeremy Quinn wrote: > Are you sure you want to keep the docs in wiki format, or maybe > make an editor that allows people to edit XML docs as wiki text > in a form, having them saved back as XML again. (This is how I > was thinking of using it ...) My cocoon-wik

Re: Wiki documentation system

2002-06-06 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Jeremy Quinn wrote: > > On Thursday, June 6, 2002, at 07:36 PM, Stephen Ng wrote: > >> Cocoon doc in wiki format would make it much easier for those of us more >> casual cocoon users to contribute suggestions, doc bugs, and minor >> clarifications. >> > > Are you sure you want to keep the docs in

Re: Wiki documentation system

2002-06-06 Thread Jeremy Quinn
On Thursday, June 6, 2002, at 07:36 PM, Stephen Ng wrote: > Cocoon doc in wiki format would make it much easier for those > of us more > casual cocoon users to contribute suggestions, doc bugs, and minor > clarifications. > Are you sure you want to keep the docs in wiki format, or maybe make

RE: Wiki documentation system

2002-06-06 Thread Stephen Ng
Topping [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:16 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Wiki documentation system > > > [apologies for the x-post] > > > -Original Message- > > From: Vadim Gritsenko [mailt

Wiki documentation system

2002-06-06 Thread Brian Topping
[apologies for the x-post] > -Original Message- > From: Vadim Gritsenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Subject: RE: Parameterizing Sitemap with XMLForms > > There is no one good document explaining this... I believe should be > explained somewhere Vadim, thanks for the response, I'll che