Re: coda with very large servers

2001-10-11 Thread Zachary Denison
Yes I am using qmail and courier and everything is in Maildir format. The big problem now is the size of the RVM. If I broke down the monolithic servers into smaller ones of 50gb each, and replicate each one of those internationally I wonder if it would work. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On

Re: coda with very large servers

2001-10-11 Thread jeremy
On 11 Oct, Zachary Denison wrote: > > > In terms of the read any/ write all strategy thats > exactly what I want. I do want it to deliver ail to > all the servers at once. I want a system exactly as > yuo said, so that if one location completely loses > internet connectivity, users outside tha

Re: coda with very large servers

2001-10-11 Thread Zachary Denison
In terms of the read any/ write all strategy thats exactly what I want. I do want it to deliver ail to all the servers at once. I want a system exactly as yuo said, so that if one location completely loses internet connectivity, users outside that location can still access the email. Coda see

Re: coda with very large servers

2001-10-11 Thread Jan Harkes
On Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 10:02:19PM -0700, Zachary Denison wrote: > drive, where I store users mail directories. What I > would like to do is setup these three machines as CODA > servers with replication, so each one is an exact > mirror of the other 2. Is this what happens under > replication?

coda with very large servers

2001-10-10 Thread Zachary Denison
geographically disparate locations. At each location I want to have CODA clients, which run the mail delivery software. Anyway my question is that, is it possible to have coda with such large servers, because, as I am reading the administration manual, it seems to imply that the maximum size of the RVM log

Re: AW: Large servers ...

1999-01-22 Thread thoth
"Tomalla, Wolfram" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ,in message <44392638B0B9D011B713C09541E0 2AC7DD@procomres1>, wrote: > The problem is thee are no replicated Databases that realy > hold the Data faliles except Oracle. And an Oracle > istallation would cost us $25.000 - $30.000 per system. > Al

AW: Large servers ...

1999-01-22 Thread Tomalla, Wolfram
Hi again, The problem is thee are no replicated Databases that realy hold the Data faliles except Oracle. And an Oracle istallation would cost us $25.000 - $30.000 per system. All the other Databases actualy only support a warm standby. That means, if the Database commited a transaction, the dat

Re: Large servers ...

1999-01-21 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Peter J. Braam wrote: > Holding databases in a distributed file system requires locking. Coda has > no facility to do this. Sorry you'll have to use another system. > > For true redundancy you should look into a replicated database, since > there is more to it that merely

Re: Large servers ...

1999-01-21 Thread Peter J. Braam
Wolfram, Holding databases in a distributed file system requires locking. Coda has no facility to do this. Sorry you'll have to use another system. For true redundancy you should look into a replicated database, since there is more to it that merely replicating the log and data file. - Pete

Large servers ...

1999-01-21 Thread Tomalla, Wolfram
Hi, I'm from a company in germany that produces a controling system for a lot of different processes eg. a powerplant or a central controling of Coce mashines. I thought about running a database (with ODBC and JDBC drivers) on a coda filesystem to get a redundant data holding. I think the proble

Re: large servers: please help

1999-01-20 Thread Robert Watson
On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Troy Benjegerdes wrote: > Correct me if I'm wrong, but both AFS and coda keep data on the servers > (in the RVM data file??) which allow one to recover files from 24 hours > ago. My univerisity has AFS, and I have recoved files I accidentally > deleted a couple of times like

Re: large servers: please help

1999-01-20 Thread jaharkes
Troy wrote: > Correct me if I'm wrong, but both AFS and coda keep data on the servers > (in the RVM data file??) which allow one to recover files from 24 hours > ago. My univerisity has AFS, and I have recoved files I accidentally > deleted a couple of times like this. I also recall reading in one

Re: large servers: please help

1999-01-20 Thread jaharkes
> In other completely different news, I tried compiling coda on my Alpha and > I got laughed at by my compiler... > > The first minor choke was in lib-src/lwp.c at line 552: > > if ((int) stackptr == -1) > > stackptr is originally typed as (char *)...in Alpha-land, pointers are 8 > bytes

Re: large servers: please help

1999-01-20 Thread Troy Benjegerdes
> > > > Whoops, this is a good point. However, the conflict resolution mechanisms > > themselves would use the chunk fetching code, so it need not really be a > > problem. > > The problem situation I was thinking of was this: Client1 is connected, > and retrieves the middle chunk of a file. A

Re: large servers: please help

1999-01-20 Thread Kragen Sitaker
On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Jason Duerstock wrote: > Perhaps some sort of watermark could be set for what is acceptable to > cache as a whole file and what is not? Um, easiest solution would be to cache whole files when they're being written to, since typically (i.e. non-dbm case) you write the whole fi

Re: large servers: please help

1999-01-20 Thread Jason Duerstock
Perhaps some sort of watermark could be set for what is acceptable to cache as a whole file and what is not? In other completely different news, I tried compiling coda on my Alpha and I got laughed at by my compiler... The first minor choke was in lib-src/lwp.c at line 552: if ((int) st

Re: large servers: please help

1999-01-20 Thread Robert Watson
On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Peter J. Braam wrote: > > AFS deals with this by 'chunking' -- that is, it demand-loads portions of > > files into the cache as they are needed; I believe it also uses an > > agressive read-ahead policy. The net result is more efficient use of the > > cache for partial file

Re: large servers: please help

1999-01-20 Thread Troy Benjegerdes
On 20 Jan 1999, Magnus Ahltorp wrote: > > It's a good puzzle to see if Coda's connected semantics allow for the > > atomic creation of a lock file. Perhaps that is just possible. On the > > other hand, I don't really have much more faith in AFS or NFS without lock > > daemons when it comes to my

Re: large servers: please help

1999-01-20 Thread Magnus Ahltorp
> It's a good puzzle to see if Coda's connected semantics allow for the > atomic creation of a lock file. Perhaps that is just possible. On the > other hand, I don't really have much more faith in AFS or NFS without lock > daemons when it comes to my mail. There are advisory locks in AFS, so mai

Re: large servers: please help

1999-01-20 Thread Peter J. Braam
On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Robert Watson wrote: > On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Laszlo Vecsey wrote: > > > Isnt part of the problem the client, which afaik is not supposed to have a > > large cache, say greater than 300mb or so. > > My understanding was that part of the problem lies in the scalability of >

Re: large servers: please help

1999-01-20 Thread Peter J. Braam
This would be for one server. You could have many of course that enter the /coda name space transparently. On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Troy Benjegerdes wrote: > On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Peter J. Braam wrote: > > > Where will the limits lie? I think that I can see that we can scale Coda > > to approximat

Re: large servers: please help

1999-01-20 Thread Robert Watson
On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Laszlo Vecsey wrote: > Isnt part of the problem the client, which afaik is not supposed to have a > large cache, say greater than 300mb or so. My understanding was that part of the problem lies in the scalability of RVM as a transaction system; because it mmaps its log into

Re: large servers: please help

1999-01-20 Thread Laszlo Vecsey
On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Troy Benjegerdes wrote: > On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Peter J. Braam wrote: > > > Where will the limits lie? I think that I can see that we can scale Coda > > to approximately 500,000 files over the next year (the size of the files > > is irrelevant). There will be implementation

Re: large servers: please help

1999-01-20 Thread Troy Benjegerdes
On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Peter J. Braam wrote: > Where will the limits lie? I think that I can see that we can scale Coda > to approximately 500,000 files over the next year (the size of the files > is irrelevant). There will be implementation changes needed for that which > are not backward compati

Re: large servers: please help

1999-01-19 Thread Elliot Lee
On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Peter J. Braam wrote: > Where will the limits lie? I think that I can see that we can scale > Coda to approximately 500,000 files over the next year (the size of > the files is irrelevant). There will be implementation changes needed > for that which are not backward compati

large servers: please help

1999-01-19 Thread Peter J. Braam
Folks, We are getting a lot of requests for people wanting to run larger Coda servers. Basically the answer is: we don't think it will work yet. The content of this message is roughly as follows: - where will the limits lie in the nearish future - this release of Coda is a little different - w