[CODE4LIB] RepoCamp (July 25th, Washington DC)

2008-06-24 Thread Ed Summers
You are hereby invited to RepoCamp in Washington DC on July 25th. http://barcamp.pbwiki.com/RepoCamp RepoCamp is a one-day free and open event where folks who are interested in managing and creating digital repository software and their contents can gather and share ideas, innovations, trials a

Re: [CODE4LIB] The Berman Catalog

2008-06-24 Thread Ed Summers
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 10:05 PM, md <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I did not find the Marc record reader or parser you created...was it > MARC : : Forgiving Reader? to read the records, then import them > into the MYSQL database. Yes, the MARC processing library is ruby-marc [1], which needs to be

Re: [CODE4LIB] use of OpenSearch response elements in libraries?

2008-06-24 Thread Roy Tennant
To be specific, currently supported record formats for an OpenSearch query of the WorldCat API are Atom and RSS as well as the preformatted citation. Roy On 6/23/08 6/23/08 • 10:18 PM, "Godmar Back" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks --- let me do some "query refinement" then -- does anybody kn

Re: [CODE4LIB] use of OpenSearch response elements in libraries?

2008-06-24 Thread Ross Singer
Godmar, I know Nelsonville Public Library used to have OpenSearch feed, so did Talis, RedLightGreen and Georgia Tech. RedLightGreen's been gone for nearly two years now, Talis's "Prism demo" times out (although the Platform returns searches in OpenSearch, more on that in a minute). Ok, some sear

Re: [CODE4LIB] use of OpenSearch response elements in libraries?

2008-06-24 Thread Ross Singer
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Ross Singer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Theoretically you should be able to also pass the argument > record_type=dc or record_type=marc to give you dublin core or marc21, > but there seems to be a bug there. I'll fix that today. > Bah, this actually did work, I

Re: [CODE4LIB] use of OpenSearch response elements in libraries?

2008-06-24 Thread Godmar Back
[ this discussion may be a bit too detailed for the general readership of code4lib; readers not interested in the upcoming WC search API may wish to skip... ] Roy, Atom/RSS are simply the container formats used to return multiple items of some kind --- I'm curious about what those items contain.

Re: [CODE4LIB] use of OpenSearch response elements in libraries?

2008-06-24 Thread Washburn,Bruce
Godmar, I'm one of the developers working on the WorldCat API. My take is that the API is evolving and adapting as we learn more about how it's expected to be used. We haven't precluded the addition of more record metadata to OpenSearch responses; we opted not to implement it until we had more e

Re: [CODE4LIB] use of OpenSearch response elements in libraries?

2008-06-24 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
In general, is there a reason to have different metadata formats from SRU vs OpenSearch? Is there a way to just have the same metadata formats available for each? Or are the demands of each too different to just use the same underlying infrastructure, such that it really does take more work to

Re: [CODE4LIB] use of OpenSearch response elements in libraries?

2008-06-24 Thread Godmar Back
I too find this decision intriguing, and I'm wondering about its wider implications on the use of RSS/Atom as a container format inside and outside the context of OpenSearch as it relates to library systems. I note that an OpenSearch description does not allow you to specify type of the items cont

Re: [CODE4LIB] use of OpenSearch response elements in libraries?

2008-06-24 Thread Ross Singer
Actually, regarding this very point... One of the outcomes of Jangle is that I'd like to create a registry (like, say, a SKOS vocabulary) that defines an identifier for an agreed upon record format. You point out that conneg doesn't work for Atom or RSS payloads, but it wouldn't work, anyway. Wh

Re: [CODE4LIB] The Berman Catalog

2008-06-24 Thread Hahn, Harvey
Ed Summers wrote: |As for Karen's question about the Internet Archive: it totally makes |sense to host the data up there. But, I had to sign a scary license |agreement from the UIUC Archives, which *almost* stopped me from even |releasing http://catalog.sanfordberman.org ... Madeline can say for |s

Re: [CODE4LIB] The Berman Catalog

2008-06-24 Thread Ed Summers
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Hahn, Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Same experience here. I responded directly to Karen: > "See http://catalog.sanfordberman.org/ -- it refers to licensing from > the Univ of Illinois Archives. When the data first became available a > number of years ago, I

[CODE4LIB] worldcat direct link by lccn?

2008-06-24 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Worldcat lets me generate a predictable link by isbn, issn, or oclcnum: worldcat.org/isbn/# worldcat.org/issn/# worldcat.org/oclc/# But it doesn't look like it indexes this way by lccn too? worldcat.org/lccn/# I don't think works? Can anyone confirm or deny, is there a way to predictably

Re: [CODE4LIB] worldcat direct link by lccn?

2008-06-24 Thread Roy Tennant
Interestingly, a search will often work (he says, pulling random books off his bookshelf): Or if it returns several hits, the first one can be the one: But give

Re: [CODE4LIB] The Berman Catalog

2008-06-24 Thread md
In regard to Harvey's concerns about the license agreement for the Berman catalog: The catalog IS publicly available on the Sanford Berman website and has been for about 3 years. Ed began development of a Ruby application. His work was very important and very appreciatedjust not finished.

Re: [CODE4LIB] The Berman Catalog

2008-06-24 Thread Ross Singer
I'm not sure this addressing the criteria of the licensing. How would you stop "commercial" purposes? Say I work for a UK-based vendor that starts with a "T" (as hard as that may seem) and I devise a script (or, even more crazily, have root access to the server to the server that the Berman catal

Re: [CODE4LIB] The Berman Catalog

2008-06-24 Thread md
Security measures can be set in place to prevent the scenario you describe. Tagging systems (or pop culture cataloging) such as those used by Amazon.com were consciously or unconsciously inspired by Berman's work, but although they are dynamic and current, they are simplisitic and undisciplined...

Re: [CODE4LIB] use of OpenSearch response elements in libraries?

2008-06-24 Thread Mike Rylander
Wow, I'm coming into this thread late ... To answer Godmar up-thread, Evergreen's OpenSearch service returns data in more than 15 formats, including MARCXML and MODS. It was actually the first ILS to do so (with the exception of Ross's Voyager add-on), and also the first ILS to have an unAPI serv

Re: [CODE4LIB] The Berman Catalog

2008-06-24 Thread Tim Spalding
> Security measures can be set in place to prevent > the scenario you describe. Is the state of Minnesota or the city of Minneapolis able to copyright its work? Certainly this is impossible on the Federal level. But state laws vary. What would a FOIA request produce? > Tagging systems (or pop cul