Re: [CODE4LIB] Open, public standards v. pay per view standards and usage

2009-07-16 Thread Houghton,Andrew
> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of > Karen Coyle > Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:09 PM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Open, public standards v. pay per view > standards and usage > > Houghton,Andrew wrote: > > Second, standards can

Re: [CODE4LIB] Open, public standards v. pay per view standards and usage

2009-07-16 Thread Karen Coyle
Houghton,Andrew wrote: So why do people keep running new standards thru organizations like ISO that lock them up behind a pay system? It's probably better to run them through NISO first where they will be freely available, then run them through ISO where ISO can lock them up for the people who

Re: [CODE4LIB] Open, public standards v. pay per view standards and usage

2009-07-16 Thread Houghton,Andrew
> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of > Bill Dueber > Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:45 AM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Open, public standards v. pay per view > standards and usage > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Houghton,Andr

Re: [CODE4LIB] Open, public standards v. pay per view standards and usage

2009-07-16 Thread Bill Dueber
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Houghton,Andrew wrote: > Not saying you're wrong Ross, but it depends. People adopted MARC-XML > by looking at the .xsd without an actual specification. Granted it's > not a complicated schema however, and there already existed the "MARC 21 > Specifications for

Re: [CODE4LIB] Open, public standards v. pay per view standards and usage

2009-07-16 Thread Ray Denenberg, Library of Congress
I am not even remotely suggesting that anyone would implement the holdings standard with nothing but the schema. We're working on a solution to this. --Ray - Original Message - From: "Houghton,Andrew" To: Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Open, public

Re: [CODE4LIB] Open, public standards v. pay per view standards and usage

2009-07-16 Thread Houghton,Andrew
> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of > Ross Singer > Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:07 AM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Open, public standards v. pay per view > standards and usage > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Ray Denenberg,

Re: [CODE4LIB] Open, public standards v. pay per view standards and usage

2009-07-16 Thread Ross Singer
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Ray Denenberg, Library of Congress wrote: > Ross, if you're talking about the ISO 20775 xml schema: > http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso20775/ISOholdings_V1.0.xsd > > It's free. It's also not a spec, it's a schema. If the expectation is that people are actually goi