Re: [CODE4LIB] Fwd: [rules] Publication of the RDA Element Vocabularies

2014-01-25 Thread Robert Sanderson
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 6:20 AM, Jon Phipps wrote: > On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Robert Sanderson >wrote: > > > > All in my opinion, and all debatable. I hope that your choice goes well > > > for > > > > you, > > > > > > I'd

Re: [CODE4LIB] Fwd: [rules] Publication of the RDA Element Vocabularies

2014-01-24 Thread Robert Sanderson
(Sorry for a previous empty message) Hi Jon, On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 7:56 AM, Jon Phipps wrote: > Hi Rob, the conversation continues below... > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Robert Sanderson >wrote: > > To present the other side of the argument so that others on the li

Re: [CODE4LIB] Fwd: [rules] Publication of the RDA Element Vocabularies

2014-01-24 Thread Robert Sanderson
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 7:56 AM, Jon Phipps wrote: > Hi Rob, the conversation continues below... > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Robert Sanderson >wrote: > > > Hi Jon, > > > > To present the other side of the argument so that others on the list

Re: [CODE4LIB] Fwd: [rules] Publication of the RDA Element Vocabularies

2014-01-23 Thread Robert Sanderson
Hi Jon, To present the other side of the argument so that others on the list can make an informed decision... On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Jon Phipps wrote: > I've developed a quite strong opinion that vocabulary developers should not > _ever_ think that they can understand the semantics of

Re: [CODE4LIB] Fwd: [rules] Publication of the RDA Element Vocabularies

2014-01-22 Thread Robert Sanderson
P166123464771 And now no one understands at all. CIDOC-CRM has taken the same approach -- it's better that everyone is equal in their non-comprehension than people who speak a particular language are somehow advantaged. BTW, as an English speaker, I also don't understand "other designation a

Re: [CODE4LIB] rdf ontologies for archival descriptions

2014-01-20 Thread Robert Sanderson
Have you considered the LOCAH work in mapping EAD into Linked Data? http://archiveshub.ac.uk/locah/ and http://data.archiveshub.ac.uk/ Rob On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Ben Companjen wrote: > Hi Eric, > > While I'm no archivist by training (information systems engineer I am), > I've learn

Re: [CODE4LIB] archiving web pages

2014-01-14 Thread Robert Sanderson
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:17 PM, L Snider wrote: > > > Rob is right on! I included the wrong link, thanks for catching that... > > > > Cheers > > > > Lisa > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Robert Sanderson > >wrote: > &

Re: [CODE4LIB] archiving web pages

2014-01-14 Thread Robert Sanderson
For what it's worth, the latest wayback code is: https://github.com/iipc/openwayback And being developed by the IIPC consortium, rather than just the Internet Archive alone. It has many additional features, contributed by other members. It should be used in preference to the sourceforge vers

Re: [CODE4LIB] The lie of the API

2013-12-02 Thread Robert Sanderson
To be (more) controversial... If it's okay to require headers, why can't API keys go in a header rather than the URL. Then it's just the same as content negotiation, it seems to me. You send a header and get a different response from the same URI. Rob On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Edward Su

Re: [CODE4LIB] The lie of the API

2013-12-02 Thread Robert Sanderson
On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Barnes, Hugh wrote: > +1 to all of Richard's points here. Making something easier for you to > develop is no justification for making it harder to consume or deviating > from well supported standards. > I'm not suggesting deviating from well supported standards, I'

Re: [CODE4LIB] The lie of the API

2013-12-02 Thread Robert Sanderson
Hi Richard, On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Richard Wallis < richard.wal...@dataliberate.com> wrote: > "It's harder to implement Content Negotiation than your own API, because > you > get to define your own API whereas you have to follow someone else's rules" > Don't wish your implementation prob

Re: [CODE4LIB] The lie of the API

2013-11-29 Thread Robert Sanderson
(posted in the comments on the blog and reposted here for further discussion, if interest) While I couldn't agree more with the post's starting point -- URIs identify (concepts) and use HTTP as your API -- I couldn't disagree more with the "use content negotiation" conclusion. I'm with Dan Cohen

Re: [CODE4LIB] Loris

2013-11-09 Thread Robert Sanderson
Hi Andrew, Not exactly sure what sort of differences you're after... Do you mean the difference between this: http://iipimage.sourceforge.net/documentation/protocol/ (and it's 74 page reference: http://iipimage.sourceforge.net/IIPv105.pdf ) And this: http://www-sul.stanford.edu/iiif/image-

Re: [CODE4LIB] rdf serialization

2013-11-06 Thread Robert Sanderson
n their own individual graphs, > won't that be chaos? I really don't know the answer, it's not a rhetorical > question! > > Hugh > > On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:40 , Robert Sanderson wrote: > > > Named Graphs are the way to solve the issue you bring up in that pos

Re: [CODE4LIB] rdf serialization

2013-11-06 Thread Robert Sanderson
Named Graphs are the way to solve the issue you bring up in that post, in my opinion. You mint an identifier for the graph, and associate the provenance and other information with that. This then gets ingested as the 4th URI into a quad store, so you don't lose the provenance information. In JSO

Re: [CODE4LIB] rdf serialization

2013-11-05 Thread Robert Sanderson
Yes, I'm going to get sucked into this vi vs emacs argument for nostalgia's sake. >From the linked, very outdated article: > In fact, as far as I know I've never used an RDF application, nor do I know of any that make me want to use them. > So what's wrong with this picture? a) Nothing. You wo

Re: [CODE4LIB] rdf serialization

2013-11-03 Thread Robert Sanderson
You're still missing a vital step. Currently your assertion is that the creator /of a web page/ is Jefferson, which is clearly false. The page (...) is a transcription of the Declaration of Independence. The Declaration of Independence is written by Jefferson. Jefferson is Male. And it's not ver

[CODE4LIB] ANN: Memento Client for Chrome

2013-10-09 Thread Robert Sanderson
Dear all, We are delighted to be able to announce the availability of the beta Memento extension for Chrome. The extension is available in the Chrome store: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/memento/jgbfpjledahoajcppakbgilmojkaghgm?hl=en&gl=US Below, we include the description that accom

Re: [CODE4LIB] anti-harassment policy for code4lib?

2012-11-26 Thread Robert Sanderson
+1, of course :) You might wish to consider some further derivatives/related pages: http://www.diglib.org/about/code-of-conduct/ http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Friendly_space_policy https://thestrangeloop.com/about/policies http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/anti-harass

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4lib 2013 Presentation Election now open!

2012-11-13 Thread Robert Sanderson
I guess that you need to be logged in to vote? Perhaps a direct link in the text to where to login, and where to request a new account? Thanks, Rob On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Becky Yoose wrote: > Not a voting problem per se, but the results page in IE9 [1] in Win7 threw > up up everywh

Re: [CODE4LIB] Lift the Flap books

2012-02-17 Thread Robert Sanderson
Have you considered Shared Canvas? Foldouts, flaps, curtains and all sorts of interactive zones formed a significant part of our design use cases and requirements. http://www.shared-canvas.org/ Rob On Feb 15, 2012 12:49 PM, "Sara Amato" wrote: > Thanks for this example - I'll follow up with the

Re: [CODE4LIB] Embedding XHTML into RDF

2012-01-12 Thread Robert Sanderson
+1 Rob On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 9:26 AM, aj...@virginia.edu wrote: > My inclination would be to keep the descriptive snippets in some kind of > content store with a good RESTful Web exposure and just use those URLs as the > values of "description" triples in your RDF. Then your RDF is genteel L

Re: [CODE4LIB] Embedding XHTML into RDF

2012-01-11 Thread Robert Sanderson
You might consider the Content in RDF specification: http://www.w3.org/TR/Content-in-RDF10/ which describes how to do this in a generic fashion, as opposed to stuffing it directly into a string literal. HTH Rob On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Ethan Gruber wrote: > Hi all, > > Suppose I h

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python jobs for a book quote service

2012-01-09 Thread Robert Sanderson
I know the guys that work at Findings, and it would be a great team to work in, doing cool stuff :) Rob On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Jodi Schneider wrote: > https://findings.com/jobs

Re: [CODE4LIB] Sending html via ajax -vs- building html in js (was: jQuery Ajax request to update a PHP variable)

2011-12-08 Thread Robert Sanderson
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:14 AM, BRIAN TINGLE wrote: > On Dec 7, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Robert Sanderson wrote: >> * Lax Security -- It's easier to get into trouble when you're simply >> inlining HTML received, compared to building the elements.  Getting >> into the s

Re: [CODE4LIB] Sending html via ajax -vs- building html in js (was: jQuery Ajax request to update a PHP variable)

2011-12-07 Thread Robert Sanderson
Here's some off the top of my head: * Separation of concerns -- You can keep your server side data transfer and change the front end easily by working with the javascript, rather than reworking both. * Lax Security -- It's easier to get into trouble when you're simply inlining HTML received, comp

Re: [CODE4LIB] Plea for help from Horowhenua Library Trust to Koha Community

2011-11-23 Thread Robert Sanderson
LibLime A Division of PTFS, Inc. Main Office 11501 Huff Court North Bethesda, Maryland 20895 tel: (301) 654-8088 Ext. 127 fax: (301) 654-5789 email: kohai...@liblime.com Twitter: @liblime How about we all contact them? ;) Rob 2011/11/23 Wilfred Drew : > Has anybody contacted the company? A s

Re: [CODE4LIB] OIA Feeds

2011-06-21 Thread Robert Sanderson
Without /any/ infrastructure it would be a challenge, but a simple database that has timestamps and basic metadata would be sufficient. The timestamps are the most important, obviously, to populate the feed correctly and handle the time slicing. Rob On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Eric Lease Mor

[CODE4LIB] New Memento Internet Draft available; comments requested!

2011-04-28 Thread Robert Sanderson
Dear all, We have published an updated internet draft for the Memento specification concerning Time Travel on the Web. It is available at: * TXT version: http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-vandesompel-memento-01.txt * HTML version: http://mementoweb.org/guide/rfc/ID/ This version contains updates and

Re: [CODE4LIB] What's the descriptive technical terminology?... pdf image of a page. pdf format used with cut paste.

2011-04-28 Thread Robert Sanderson
It can also be both, by the way. The OCR or text can be hidden behind the image, but selectable. Or it can have both image and text, but the text isn't selectable. This enables searching without being able to cut and paste the text. In other words, IMO you should just describe the situation you h

Re: [CODE4LIB] Fwd: [Air-L] Using archives of the web for research

2011-04-21 Thread Robert Sanderson
Our work on Memento comes to mind, of course. http://www.mementoweb.org/ And in particular, regarding the second point, our papers about the use of Memento for non-traditional interactions with web archives: * http://arxiv.org/abs/1003.3661 Using Memento to recover the state of a web resource at

[CODE4LIB] Fwd: [dm-l] Postdoctoral Fellowship at MARGOT, University of Waterloo

2011-04-18 Thread Robert Sanderson
-- Forwarded message -- From: Christine McWebb Date: Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 7:36 AM Subject: [dm-l] Postdoctoral Fellowship at MARGOT, University of Waterloo To: d...@uleth.ca University of Waterloo – Mellon Postdoctoral Fellowship in Digital Humanities With apologies for cross-

[CODE4LIB] Fwd: OAC RFP Annoncement

2011-04-06 Thread Robert Sanderson
Forwarded: The Open Annotation Collaboration (OAC) project is pleased to announce a Request For Proposal to collaborate with OAC researchers for building implementations of the OAC data model and ontology. The OAC is seeking to collaborate with scholars and/or librarians currently using and/or cur

Re: [CODE4LIB] XML Schema vs Library APIs (OAI-PMH/SRU/unAPI)

2011-02-24 Thread Robert Sanderson
That is (still) incorrect. A single schema may contain multiple namespaces, and there isn't a unique identifier for a schema. For example, any simple Dublin Core based syntax must have at least two Namespaces, Dublin Core and the wrapper element. SchemaLocation is not unique as there can be many

Re: [CODE4LIB] graph processing stack

2010-12-20 Thread Robert Sanderson
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 1:28 PM, BRIAN TINGLE wrote: > > "graph processing stack on top of a graph database" resonates with me more > than "RDF store with SPARQL access" but I guess they are > basically/functionally saying the same thing? Maybe the "graph database" > way of thinking about it is

[CODE4LIB] Using OAC Workshop Planned for March 2011 (CFP)

2010-12-20 Thread Robert Sanderson
Dear all, The Open Annotation Collaboration (OAC) project is pleased to announce an open call for statements of interest in participating in the Using the OAC Model for Annotation Interoperability Workshop. The workshop will be held 24-25 March 20011 in Chicago, IL and will provide an in- depth in

Re: [CODE4LIB] Looking for a Word to EAD converter

2010-10-07 Thread Robert Sanderson
Agreed. The easiest way, IMHO of working with EAD for several years at the Archives Hub (http://www.archiveshub.ac.uk), would be to set up a set of EAD templates and then cut and paste the text into them from Word. Rob On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Eric Lease Morgan wrote: > On Oct 7, 2010,

Re: [CODE4LIB] Inlining HTTP Headers in URLs

2010-06-01 Thread Robert Sanderson
I have apparently been taken in by the REST koolaid, as for a long time I would have completely agreed with Ralph. However it seems to me that a URI is an _Identifier_ for a resource, which is orthogonal to the representations that it can provide on demand, and any other such 'run time' requiremen

Re: [CODE4LIB] OASIS SRU and CQL, access to most-current drafts

2010-05-17 Thread Robert Sanderson
In today's RESTful world, what's the requirement for the httpAccept parameter? Isn't straight content negotiation sufficient rather than pulling the headers into the URI? What happens if the accept header and the httpAccept parameter say different things? Rob On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Le

Re: [CODE4LIB] What do you want out of a frbrized data web service?

2010-04-20 Thread Robert Sanderson
Exposing the records as Linked Data, rather than just plain old XML would be an interesting demonstration of how the library world can generate and, more importantly, curate massive amounts of data. They could then be linked to and from by other resources/services -- for example linking a copy of

Re: [CODE4LIB] NoSQL - is this a real thing or a flash in the pan?

2010-04-12 Thread Robert Sanderson
Depends on the sort of features required, in particular the access patterns, and the hardware it's going to run on. In my experience, NoSQL systems (for example apache's Cassandra) have extremely good distribution properties over multiple machines, much better than SQL databases. Essentially, it'

[CODE4LIB] Memento Updates

2010-04-05 Thread Robert Sanderson
in your feedback. Discussions are welcomed on the Memento list at <http://groups.google.com/group/memento-dev/>. On behalf of the Memento team: Herbert Van de Sompel - Los Alamos National Laboratory Michael L. Nelson - Old Dominion University Robert Sanderson - Los Alamos National Laboratory