Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci

2011-08-03 Thread Laura Smart
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: > I'd add that you should be open to accepting that some of those things STILL > won't make sense once you know why librarians do things the way they do. > .. but often where we are is really > really unfortunate.  (And even many of us

Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci

2011-08-03 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
I'm especially interested in anything which >> gave you an "ah-ha!" moment when you were working with library data -- >> the implicit things which didn't make sense until you knew why those >> crazy librarians did things the way they did. I'd add that you should be open to accepting that s

Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci

2011-08-02 Thread Mike Smorul
Some lessons from my own introduction coming from an IT/Comp-Sci background years ago. Focus more on the why and use-cases rather than the technology. From a programming perspective much of the technology isn't terribly difficult and is well known at a basic level. How it's used, why certain choic

Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci

2011-08-02 Thread P Williams
Introduction to this community and related conferences really helped my introduction to libraryland and its vernacular. Regards, Tricia On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Laura Smart wrote: > Hi folks - > > What do you include in orientation when you hire a programmer > (excellent, experienced, o

Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci

2011-07-22 Thread Bigwood, David
Walter Lewis Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 4:12 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci On 22 July 2011, at 1:07 PM, Bigwood, David wrote: > The extended ASCII character set, Latin-1, used in the old MARC systems was always something that

Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci

2011-07-22 Thread Walter Lewis
On 22 July 2011, at 1:07 PM, Bigwood, David wrote: > The extended ASCII character set, Latin-1, used in the old MARC systems was > always something that was neglected to get mentioned and not at all obvious. > Now that more systems are using UNICODE it should be less of a problem, all > depends

Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci

2011-07-22 Thread Bigwood, David
. Sincerely, David Bigwood dbigw...@gmail.com Lunar and Planetary Institute -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Laura Smart Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 11:04 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to

Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci

2011-07-21 Thread Cowles, Esme
Laura- Yes, that diagram is awesome! It does a great job of dividing up the standards by several different axes. I think the Function section in particular is what I didn't figure out on my own, mostly because I always assumed those functions were all contained in a single standard instead of s

Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci

2011-07-20 Thread Genny Engel
t Librarian Sonoma County Library gen...@sonoma.lib.ca.us www.sonomalibrary.org 707 545-0831 x581 -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Laura Smart Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 2:48 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB]

Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci

2011-07-20 Thread Mike Taylor
On 20 July 2011 22:47, Laura Smart wrote: > Esme (and all) > > Would Jenn Riley & Devin Becker's metadata standards visualization > have been helpful to you if it had been available back in the day? > http://www.dlib.indiana.edu/~jenlrile/metadatamap/ > > Perhaps a detailed sub-set thereof? > > Pe

Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci

2011-07-20 Thread Laura Smart
Esme (and all) Would Jenn Riley & Devin Becker's metadata standards visualization have been helpful to you if it had been available back in the day? http://www.dlib.indiana.edu/~jenlrile/metadatamap/ Perhaps a detailed sub-set thereof? Perhaps at minimum a glossary of acronyms commonly tossed ab

Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci

2011-07-20 Thread Roy Zimmer
Hi Laura: I started working with/for Library stuff in 1994. Been working on it more or less full-time now for nearly half that time. I moved from the IT department and became a library employee several years back. So...CS degree, no library education, but have picked a lot up over the years.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci

2011-07-20 Thread Peter Schlumpf
n computer science and work thereafter which turned into a positive cycle. For me, the one gives a reason to do the other. Peter Schlumpf -Original Message- >From: Laura Smart >Sent: Jul 20, 2011 11:04 AM >To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU >Subject: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientat

Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci

2011-07-20 Thread Bess Sadler
Hi, Laura. Great question, and one that I have asked myself many times. It is sparsely populated, but there is a wiki page about this here: http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/A_Guide_for_the_Perplexed It would be a service to the community if you added any answers you find there. Bess On Jul

Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci

2011-07-20 Thread Michael J. Giarlo
Somewhat related is the developing Guide for the Perplexed on the code4lib wiki: http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/A_Guide_for_the_Perplexed Feel free to add to it! -Mike On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 12:04, Laura Smart wrote: > Hi folks - > > What do you include in orientation when you hire

Re: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci

2011-07-20 Thread Cowles, Esme
m...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 12:04 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci Hi folks - What do you include in orientation when you hire a programmer (excellent, experienced, of course), who isn't familiar with library-land

[CODE4LIB] Programmer Orientation to Library/Lib Sci

2011-07-20 Thread Laura Smart
Hi folks - What do you include in orientation when you hire a programmer (excellent, experienced, of course), who isn't familiar with library-land? MARC is a given, ditto the ILS, plus e-resource management back end (OpenURL parsers, proxies and the like). From those of you who came into librari