Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs

2014-02-19 Thread Amy Shelton
Though I haven't used it myself, there is a new open source Django CMS that is called Wagtail. It was originally built for the Royal College of Art in London. They say their focus is on flexibility and user experience and do have a demo site and docs. Here's the Github page in case it might be of i

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs

2014-02-18 Thread Andromeda Yelton
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Coral Sheldon-Hess wrote: > Here's a broad question, re: Python and Django: If you've made the switch, > what has your experience been? Has Django (or any other Python framework) > given you something cool that was lacking in your previous > language/framework/CMS?

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs

2014-02-14 Thread Hagedon, Mike
DE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs Random comments and crackpot remarks. --- I like to think of myself as a programer and architect, not a PHP developer or a Python developer (Rails, JS, Scala, APL. Java, C/+/+...). In 2005, I was either going to build a new CMS in Cold

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs

2014-02-14 Thread Joshua Welker
IB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs Here's a little digression, getting away from talk about the underlying technology... Most CMSes, rather than being *content *management systems, are actually *page *management systems. They provide a few different page templates

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs

2014-02-14 Thread Thomas Bennett
I still like the Zope framework and Plone for a CMS in the Python language. Zope itself is written in python from the ground up. Within Zope the programmer can connect to multiple databases of different publishers like postgresql, mysql, or just an odbc adapter for MS SQL or the like. You c

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs

2014-02-14 Thread Francis Kayiwa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2/14/2014 3:23 PM, Edward Summers wrote: > Can I just say, how nice it is to read this thread and not see > Microsoft SharePoint mentioned? You have a problem with Enterprise software Ed? ./fxk - -- This Fortune Examined By INSPECTOR NO. 2-14 -

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs

2014-02-14 Thread Edward Summers
gt;>>> when you have to integrate it with the entire CMS rendering engine. But >>> I >>>>> have to acknowledge that it is better for me as the developer to do a >>>>> little extra legwork than requiring all the non-techie content creators >>> t

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs

2014-02-14 Thread Cary Gordon
is that, when you use a framework, you more or >>>> less guarantee that anyone inheriting your code is going to be facing a >>>> steep learning curve, possibly insurmountable depending on their level >> of >>>> programming knowledge. With a CMS, there is built-in doc

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs

2014-02-14 Thread Tom Keays
isn't _too_ hard to implement a > > basic > > >> wysiwyg editor like CKeditor in most frameworks that would eliminate > > much > > >> of the difficulty for content creators. > > >> > > >> The bigger issue for me is that, when you u

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs

2014-02-14 Thread Sarah Thorngate
5% of functionality, and then you just have to > >> document the 5% or so of code that you custom wrote. > >> > >> Having said all that, I have to point out the amazing Yii PHP framework. > >> It is so extremely easy to build a data-driven app. If you ever want a >

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs

2014-02-14 Thread Scott Turnbull
to >> document the 5% or so of code that you custom wrote. >> >> Having said all that, I have to point out the amazing Yii PHP framework. >> It is so extremely easy to build a data-driven app. If you ever want a PHP >> framework, use that. For Python, I'd go with Django jus

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs

2014-02-14 Thread Jason Bengtson
e ORM. > > Josh Welker > > > -Original Message- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of > Coral Sheldon-Hess > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 6:14 PM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs >

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs

2014-02-14 Thread Joshua Welker
nality like ORM. Josh Welker -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Coral Sheldon-Hess Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 6:14 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs Hi, everyone! I've gotten clearance t

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs

2014-02-13 Thread Erik Hetzner
At Thu, 13 Feb 2014 15:13:58 -0900, Coral Sheldon-Hess wrote: > > Hi, everyone! > > I've gotten clearance to totally rewrite my library's website in the > framework/CMS of my choice (pretty much :)). As I have said on numerous > occasions, "If I can get paid to write Python, I want to do that!" S

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs

2014-02-13 Thread Toby Greenwalt
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Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs

2014-02-13 Thread Andrew Hankinson
IB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU> > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs > > If you're new to python and django there will be a steep learning curve for > you, but probably a much steeper one for people after you who may not do > python at all. Drupal and W

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs

2014-02-13 Thread Riley Childs
ERV.ND.EDU> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs If you're new to python and django there will be a steep learning curve for you, but probably a much steeper one for people after you who may not do python at all. Drupal and Wordpress are limited, but non-technical librarians can still get

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs

2014-02-13 Thread Daron Dierkes
If you're new to python and django there will be a steep learning curve for you, but probably a much steeper one for people after you who may not do python at all. Drupal and Wordpress are limited, but non-technical librarians can still get in pretty easy to fix typos and add links at least.. Cod

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs

2014-02-13 Thread Riley Childs
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Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs

2014-02-13 Thread Nate Hill
gt; > > Riley Childs > > 704 497-2086 > > Sent from my superior my Windows Phone > > > > From: Coral Sheldon-Hess<mailto:co...@sheldon-hess.org > > > Sent: 2/13/2014 7:15 PM > > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs

2014-02-13 Thread Coral Sheldon-Hess
kunoichi On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Riley Childs wrote: > Also you just described WordPress! > > Riley Childs > 704 497-2086 > Sent from my superior my Windows Phone > > From: Coral Sheldon-Hess<mailto:co...@sheldon-hess.org> > Sent:

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs

2014-02-13 Thread Nate Hill
It's true. Nothing is perfect out of the box. On Thursday, February 13, 2014, Francis Kayiwa wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/13/2014 08:43 PM, Nate Hill wrote: > > To roll out a basic CMS you don't necessarily need to know a line > > of PHP or Python. > > Partl

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs

2014-02-13 Thread Francis Kayiwa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/13/2014 08:43 PM, Nate Hill wrote: > To roll out a basic CMS you don't necessarily need to know a line > of PHP or Python. Partly true. You seem to be suggesting that CMS's deliver every imaginable problem one could have. I find that hard to be

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs

2014-02-13 Thread Nate Hill
To roll out a basic CMS you don't necessarily need to know a line of PHP or Python. On Thursday, February 13, 2014, Francis Kayiwa wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/13/2014 08:28 PM, Nate Hill wrote: > > What are the advantages to deploying a python based CMS whe

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs

2014-02-13 Thread Francis Kayiwa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/13/2014 08:28 PM, Nate Hill wrote: > What are the advantages to deploying a python based CMS when things > like Drupal and Wordpress are so popular and well supported? I'm > sure there are some... I'd love to know more. If you work in a do-ocrac

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs

2014-02-13 Thread Riley Childs
t: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs Hi, everyone! I've gotten clearance to totally rewrite my library's website in the framework/CMS of my choice (pretty much :)). As I have said on numerous occasions, "If I can get paid to write Python, I want to do that!" So, after some discussion

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs

2014-02-13 Thread Riley Childs
/‎2014 7:15 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU> Subject: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs Hi, everyone! I've gotten clearance to totally rewrite my library's website in the framework/CMS of my choice (pretty much :)). As I have said on numerous occasions, "

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs

2014-02-13 Thread Riley Childs
Riley Childs 704 497-2086 Sent from my superior my Windows Phone From: Coral Sheldon-Hess<mailto:co...@sheldon-hess.org> Sent: ‎2/‎13/‎2014 7:15 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU> Subject: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs Hi, eve

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs

2014-02-13 Thread Nate Hill
What are the advantages to deploying a python based CMS when things like Drupal and Wordpress are so popular and well supported? I'm sure there are some... I'd love to know more. N On Thursday, February 13, 2014, Francis Kayiwa wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/1

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python CMSs

2014-02-13 Thread Francis Kayiwa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/13/2014 07:13 PM, Coral Sheldon-Hess wrote: > Hi, everyone! > > I've gotten clearance to totally rewrite my library's website in > the framework/CMS of my choice (pretty much :)). As I have said on > numerous occasions, "If I can get paid to wri

[CODE4LIB] Python CMSs

2014-02-13 Thread Coral Sheldon-Hess
Hi, everyone! I've gotten clearance to totally rewrite my library's website in the framework/CMS of my choice (pretty much :)). As I have said on numerous occasions, "If I can get paid to write Python, I want to do that!" So, after some discussion with my department head/sysadmin, we're leaning to