[CODE4LIB] OCA API

2009-05-15 Thread Tim Shearer
Hi Folks, The University Library at UNC-Chapel Hill has created an OCA API. We have harvested (and continue to harvest) standard bibliographic identifiers and link them to OCA identifiers. The API is deliberately modeled after Google's for ease of implementation. Here is a subjec search in

Re: [CODE4LIB] musing on oca apiRe: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-03-14 Thread Xiaoming Liu
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Emily Lynema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: available. I have to admit it seems odd to me to include so much > attribute information in a single element, but I suppose that > would be helpful in identifying what specific manifestation is being > referred to in the

Re: [CODE4LIB] musing on oca apiRe: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-03-14 Thread Keith Jenkins
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Emily Lynema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://xisbn.worldcat.org/webservices/xid/isbn/0689868847?library=oca&fl=* > > I have to admit it seems odd to me to include so much > attribute information in a single element, but I suppose that > would be helpful

[CODE4LIB] musing on oca apiRe: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-03-14 Thread Emily Lynema
xiaoming, This is cool. just a couple of thoughts. If a user is interested in "The Golden Fleece and the Heroes Who Lived Before Achilles" with ISBN:0689868847, and he can limit the search to "OCA" by issuing xISBN request with "library=oca", such as: http://xisbn.worldcat.org/webservices/xid/

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2008-03-12 Thread Xiaoming Liu
Jonathan, We are using public FRBR algorithm developed by OCLC Research Since we just loaded limited OCA records into xISBN service, it might be interesting to illustrate what can be done in current system. If a user is interested in "The Golden Fleece and the Heroes Who Lived Before Achilles"

Re: [CODE4LIB] musing on oca apiRe: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-03-12 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
This is great stuff. I am interested in what algorithms you are using to group works. It sounds like you are doing that, above what OCA does (which is nothing, I think). Have you gotten that far yet? What are you thinking? Oh wait, you're from OCLC, you guys have already got all sorts of stuff to

Re: [CODE4LIB] musing on oca apiRe: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-03-12 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
This is pretty good stuff. Consider submitting an article proposal to Code4Lib Journal about it. :) Jonathan Tim McCormick wrote: In our office we too have been investigating the e-book material at Internet Archive / OCA. We'd like to build just the sort of OCA index / id-switcher that Tim She

Re: [CODE4LIB] musing on oca apiRe: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-03-12 Thread Chris Freeland
w.archive.org/details/biodiversity into http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/ Chris -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim McCormick Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:58 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] musing on oca apiR

Re: [CODE4LIB] musing on oca apiRe: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-03-12 Thread Tim McCormick
In our office we too have been investigating the e-book material at Internet Archive / OCA. We'd like to build just the sort of OCA index / id-switcher that Tim Shearer and others have described on this list -- in order to, among other things, add this type of capability to our xID (aka xISBN) ser

[CODE4LIB] more musing/clarification on oca apiRe: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-03-07 Thread Tim Shearer
provided by an Open Library API (but we don't know when that might come about). As OCA moves forward, folks may well be digitizing identical books. So there may not be a one to one relationship between unique catalog identifier, unique oca identifier, and isbn/lccn/oclc number. -emily ---

Re: [CODE4LIB] musing on oca apiRe: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-03-07 Thread Kyle Banerjee
> Nope. ISBN was created in 1966. LCCNs exist for many resources > published before 1966. Even after 1966, not every single item that may > have been cataloged by the Library of Congress was neccesarily assigned > an ISBN by it's publisher All true. What I meant was that _if_ an isbn exi

Re: [CODE4LIB] musing on oca apiRe: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-03-07 Thread Karen Coyle
Kyle Banerjee wrote: I want to be able to pull all the records that have oclc numbers, issns, isbns, etc. I want it to be lightweight, fast, searchable. Would anyone else want/use such a thing?... I like the idea, but in the long term, I just don't know how useful this will be. By an

Re: [CODE4LIB] musing on oca apiRe: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-03-07 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Kyle Banerjee wrote: I like the idea, but in the long term, I just don't know how useful this will be. By and large, these identifiers are designed for dead tree resources. Only time will tell, but it's what we've got now, and I don't see our existing legacy records going away. So we will conti

Re: [CODE4LIB] musing on oca apiRe: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-03-07 Thread Kyle Banerjee
> I want to be able to pull all the > records that have oclc numbers, issns, isbns, etc. I want it to be > lightweight, fast, searchable. > > Would anyone else want/use such a thing?... I like the idea, but in the long term, I just don't know how useful this will be. By and large, these

Re: [CODE4LIB] musing on oca apiRe: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-03-07 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
I see a whole lot of "not invented here" syndrome from IA, honestly. They seem to want to re-invent everything themselves, rather than try to use existing conventions. Even if they come up with something slightly better than SRU, is it worth the pain to developers who would like to implement clie

Re: [CODE4LIB] musing on oca apiRe: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-03-07 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
On Mar 7, 2008, at 8:22 AM, Emily Lynema wrote: Also, there was discussion about building an Open Library API (to enable some cool integration with wikipedia), and I suggested a that libraries using an API would want the search results to include information about whether the title has a digitiz

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2008-03-07 Thread Emily Lynema
ROTECTED]> Subject: musing on oca apiRe: [CODE4LIB] oca api? Howdy folks, I've been playing and thinking. I'd like to have what amounts to a unique identifier index to oca digitized texts. I want to be able to pull all the records that have oclc numbers, issns, isbns, etc. I want

[CODE4LIB] oca api

2008-03-06 Thread Karen Coyle
For some reason, the code4lib listservs reject my [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail (undoubtedly having to do with the domain name -- any ideas welcome) so I'll try to keep track of the list from this account. Meanwhile... We talked about something like this at the Open Library meeting last Friday in a grou

Re: [CODE4LIB] musing on oca apiRe: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-03-06 Thread Karen Coyle
We talked about something like this at the Open Library meeting last Friday. The ol list is [EMAIL PROTECTED] (join at http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-lib). I think of this as a (or one or more) translate service between IDs. It's a realization that we will never have a unique

Re: [CODE4LIB] musing on oca apiRe: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-03-06 Thread Jodi Schneider
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of Tim Shearer >Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 8:47 AM >To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU >Subject: [CODE4LIB] musing on oca apiRe: [CODE4LIB] oca api? > >Howdy folks, > >I've been playing and thinking. I'd like to have what amoun

Re: [CODE4LIB] musing on oca apiRe: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-03-06 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
literally sitting next to IA developers and asking questions. Chris -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Rochkind Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 12:18 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] oca api? So in answer to

Re: [CODE4LIB] musing on oca apiRe: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-03-06 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
rally sitting next to IA developers and asking questions. Chris -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Rochkind Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 12:18 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] oca api? So in answer to my q

Re: [CODE4LIB] musing on oca apiRe: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-03-06 Thread Bess Sadler
Tim, I think this is a fantastic idea and the only suggestion I would make is to make sure you get on the Open Library developers list (I'm looking for the URL... I'll email when I find it unless someone else beats me to it) and discuss this there. (You may already have done this, I don't know.) T

[CODE4LIB] musing on oca apiRe: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-03-06 Thread Tim Shearer
out it by literally sitting next to IA developers and asking questions. Chris -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Rochkind Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 12:18 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] oca api? So in answ

Re: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-03-04 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
ata, scans, and derivatives and ingest, parse, recombine, remix...as we've done for BHL. Access to OCA content may not be standards-based, but it works. Chris -Original Message- From: "Roy Tennant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU" Sent: 2/27/2008

Re: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-02-27 Thread Tim Shearer
mix...as we've done for BHL. Access to OCA content may not be standards-based, but it works. Chris -Original Message- From: "Roy Tennant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU" Sent: 2/27/2008 5:28 AM Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] oca api? So wh

Re: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-02-27 Thread Sebastian Hammer
but it works. Chris -Original Message- From: "Roy Tennant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU" Sent: 2/27/2008 5:28 AM Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] oca api? So what, exactly, is "open" about this? Anyone care to guess? Roy On 2/26/08 10:29 AM,

Re: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-02-27 Thread K.G. Schneider
Roy Tennant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU" > Sent: 2/27/2008 5:28 AM > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] oca api? > > So what, exactly, is "open" about this? Anyone care to guess? > Roy > > > On 2/26/08 10:29 AM, "Chris

Re: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-02-27 Thread Chris Freeland
ess to OCA content may not be standards-based, but it works. Chris -Original Message- From: "Roy Tennant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU" Sent: 2/27/2008 5:28 AM Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] oca api? So what, exactly, is "open" about this?

Re: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-02-27 Thread Roy Tennant
n Behalf Of > Jonathan Rochkind > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 12:18 PM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] oca api? > > So in answer to my question here at the Code4Lib conference, after > Brewster's keynote, Brewster suggests there are all sorts of inter

Re: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-02-26 Thread Steve Toub
e for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Jonathan Rochkind > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 12:18 PM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] oca api? > > So in answer to my question here at the Code4Lib conference, after > Brewster's keyno

Re: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-02-26 Thread Chris Freeland
uestions. Chris -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Rochkind Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 12:18 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] oca api? So in answer to my question here at the Code4Lib conference, afte

Re: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-02-26 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
t's documented - at least not anywhere > publicly. If any IA/OCA folks are lurking, here's an opportunity to > make a bunch of techies happy... > > Chris > > -Original Message- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Jonathan Rochk

Re: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-02-26 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
On Feb 26, 2008, at 12:21 PM, Chris Freeland wrote: The biggest problem we found with the OAI implementation had to do with pulling incremental updates. If you ask for a date range like Dec 1 - 5 you get all of Dec. When we discussed this with IA we were shown the query interface and just deci

Re: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-02-26 Thread Chris Freeland
ssage- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Toub Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 8:41 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] oca api? I'll add that when IA told me about http://www.archive.org/services/search.php interface to return XML, th

Re: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-02-25 Thread Steve Toub
an Rochkind > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 2:48 PM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] oca api? > > I hadn't known this "custom query interface" existed! This is welcome > news. Is this documented anywhere? > > Jonathan > > > >&

Re: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-02-25 Thread Tim Shearer
ref what IA has scanned with your catalog - THAT I KNOW OF. Big caveat on that last part. Happy to help with any other questions I can, Chris Freeland -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Toub Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 11:20 PM

Re: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-02-25 Thread Tennant,Roy
reeland Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 11:51 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] oca api? Steve & Tim, I'm the tech director for the Biodiversity Heritage Library (BHL), which is a consortium of 10 natural history libraries who have partnered with Internet Arch

Re: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-02-25 Thread Chris Freeland
n Rochkind Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 2:48 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] oca api? I hadn't known this "custom query interface" existed! This is welcome news. Is this documented anywhere? Jonathan >>> Chris Freeland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 02

Re: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-02-25 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
her questions I can, Chris Freeland -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Toub Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 11:20 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] oca api? --- Tim Shearer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Fo

Re: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-02-25 Thread Chris Freeland
catalog - THAT I KNOW OF. Big caveat on that last part. Happy to help with any other questions I can, Chris Freeland -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Toub Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 11:20 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject:

Re: [CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-02-25 Thread Steve Toub
--- Tim Shearer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I'm looking into tapping the texts in the Open Content Alliance. > > A few questions... > > As near as I can tell, they don't expose (perhaps even store?) any common > unique identifiers (oclc number, issn, isbn, loc number). I poked arou

[CODE4LIB] oca api?

2008-02-24 Thread Tim Shearer
Hi Folks, I'm looking into tapping the texts in the Open Content Alliance. A few questions... As near as I can tell, they don't expose (perhaps even store?) any common unique identifiers (oclc number, issn, isbn, loc number). We're a contributer so I can use curl to grab our records via http (