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Peter Schuller edited comment on CASSANDRA-3897 at 2/13/12 1:08 AM:
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Why would this be the case? They are supposed to receive writes; I see no 
reason why hints should not be delivered. Hints is just a way to more quickly 
delivery writes in cases where nodes are down (i.e., more quickly when they go 
up) and avoid AES need. I don't see why a node actively bootstrapping into the 
ring should be "discriminated" against, in terms of seeing as reliable delivery 
of writes as other nodes.

In other words, I don't buy your first sentence unless you explain why. I don't 
accept it axiomatically :)

Obviously sending hints requires that hints are *there* first too, but the same 
argument applies. If a node is supposed to see a certain writes and it's 
considered down - hint it.

Statistically I can see the argument that if a node is bootstrapping and down, 
it might be practically more likely that the node is just going to be down for 
a longer period, and/or that the node will completely re-bootstrap anyway 
(since normally a node is down because it's being restarted, which would imply 
re-bootstrap if the node is bootstrapping).

                
      was (Author: scode):
    Why would this be the case? They are supposed to receive writes; I see no 
reason why hints should not be delivered. Hints is just a way to more quickly 
delivery writes in cases where nodes are down (i.e., more quickly when they go 
up) and avoid AES need. I don't see why a node actively bootstrapping into the 
ring should be "discriminated" against, in terms of seeing as reliable delivery 
of writes as other nodes.

In other words, I don't by your first sentence unless you explain why. I don't 
accept it axiomatically :)

Obviously sending hints requires that hints are *there* first too, but the same 
argument applies. If a node is supposed to see a certain writes and it's 
considered down - hint it.

Statistically I can see the argument that if a node is bootstrapping and down, 
it might be practically more likely that the node is just going to be down for 
a longer period, and/or that the node will completely re-bootstrap anyway 
(since normally a node is down because it's being restarted, which would imply 
re-bootstrap if the node is bootstrapping).

                  
> StorageService.onAlive() only schedules hints for joined endpoints
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>                 Key: CASSANDRA-3897
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-3897
>             Project: Cassandra
>          Issue Type: Sub-task
>          Components: Core
>            Reporter: Peter Schuller
>            Assignee: Peter Schuller
>            Priority: Minor
>
> It seems incorrect to not do hint delivery for nodes that are bootstrapping, 
> as that would cause sudden spikes in read repair need or inconsistent reads 
> when a node joins the ring. Particularly if the user is expecting to rely on 
> the new hinted handoff code making AES much less needed. It would be a POLA 
> violation for bootstrapping nodes to be an exception to that.

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