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rhtyd opened a new pull request #2925: kvm: use libvirtd as service name for
all distributions
URL: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/2925
Since we support only Ubuntu 16.04+ on master/4.12+, we can now use
the libvirt service name `libvirtd` for all distributions. This also
f
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rhtyd commented on issue #2915: packaging: install plugins at
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URL: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/2915#issuecomment-432495170
Test LGTM.
Can anyone review this - @rafaelweingartner @GabrielBrascher @wido @nvazquez
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rhtyd opened a new issue #2924: deleteDomain with cleanup=true sometimes fails
URL: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/issues/2924
The deleteDomain API with cleanup=true fails in case a delete account has
not been cleaned up.
Steps to reproduce:
- Create CloudStack Domain, account
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rhtyd commented on issue #2918: Improved perfomance on creating VM (KVM)
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You may close this one, the 4.11 PR will ne fwd merged on master.
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DennisKonrad commented on issue #2917: Showing VRs in Infrastructure > Virtual
Routers fails due to CloudStackVersion.parse(String)
URL: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/issues/2917#issuecomment-432458244
Oh ok, now I fully understand where our problem was coming from.
The build.sh
khos2ow commented on issue #2917: Showing VRs in Infrastructure > Virtual
Routers fails due to CloudStackVersion.parse(String)
URL: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/issues/2917#issuecomment-432454307
Yes any thing which conforms to the type of _version_ with additional
optinal brandin
khos2ow commented on issue #2917: Showing VRs in Infrastructure > Virtual
Routers fails due to CloudStackVersion.parse(String)
URL: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/issues/2917#issuecomment-432453836
No problem at all. There are flags in `build.sh` which you can use to
differentiate t
DennisKonrad commented on issue #2917: Showing VRs in Infrastructure > Virtual
Routers fails due to CloudStackVersion.parse(String)
URL: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/issues/2917#issuecomment-432453574
@khos2ow Maybe the version string produced by build.sh without any arguments
sho
DennisKonrad edited a comment on issue #2917: Showing VRs in Infrastructure >
Virtual Routers fails due to CloudStackVersion.parse(String)
URL: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/issues/2917#issuecomment-432452280
One has to really watch out with build.sh to get it right. There's one zer
DennisKonrad edited a comment on issue #2917: Showing VRs in Infrastructure >
Virtual Routers fails due to CloudStackVersion.parse(String)
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One has to really watch out with build.sh to get it right. There's one zer
DennisKonrad commented on issue #2917: Showing VRs in Infrastructure > Virtual
Routers fails due to CloudStackVersion.parse(String)
URL: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/issues/2917#issuecomment-432452280
One has to really watch out with build.sh to not get it right. There's one
zero
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Routers fails due to CloudStackVersion.parse(String)
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So now `/etc/cloudstack-release` is back to:
![image](https://user-images
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@khos2ow your hint led me in the right direction
Many apologies for this. Our
khos2ow commented on issue #2917: Showing VRs in Infrastructure > Virtual
Routers fails due to CloudStackVersion.parse(String)
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Yes it should have the same format as in
`int.int.int[.int][-branding][-snapshot|time
DennisKonrad commented on issue #2917: Showing VRs in Infrastructure > Virtual
Routers fails due to CloudStackVersion.parse(String)
URL: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/issues/2917#issuecomment-432445301
Hi @khos2ow,
it took me some time to double check on this. It seems there
alexanderbazhenoff commented on issue #2918: Improved perfomance on creating VM
(KVM)
URL: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/2918#issuecomment-432439602
> @alexanderbazhenoff can you rebase and edit base branch to 4.11 if
possible?
https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/2
alexanderbazhenoff opened a new pull request #2923: Improved perfomance on
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URL: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/2923
Improved perfomance on creating VM for KVM virtualization.
Also for 4.11. Read details here:
https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/291
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@DennisKonrad can you check the VR version directly from the machine?
`/etc/cloudstac
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> It makes sense, right? I mean, if it is not up, we set it to up.
Yes, it makes sense. Now fixed.
To be hone
blueorangutan commented on issue #2793: Destroyvm also removes volumes
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> It makes sense, right? I mean, if it is not up, we set it to up.
Yes, it makes sense. To be honest I don't see the
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> It makes sense, right? I mean, if it is not up, we set it to up.
Yes, it makes sense. To be honest I don't see the
alexanderbazhenoff edited a comment on issue #2918: Improved perfomance on
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> It makes sense, right? I mean, if it is not up, we set it to up.
Yes, it makes sense. To be honest I don't see the
alexanderbazhenoff commented on issue #2918: Improved perfomance on creating VM
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> It makes sense, right? I mean, if it is not up, we set it to up.
Yes, it makes sense. To be honest I don't see the reason
blueorangutan commented on issue #2918: Improved perfomance on creating VM (KVM)
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sh0wstopper opened a new pull request #2922: template: create/updateTemplate
should allow to set/change sshKeyEnabled
URL: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/2922
Added sshKeyEnabled key in createTemplate and updateTemplate API.
Fixes #2822
## Types of changes
- [ ]
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somejfn edited a comment on issue #2890: KVMHAMonitor thread blocks
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URL: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/issues/2890#issuecomment-432374446
Confirmed we see similar behavior on 4.11.2rc3 and the agent went in Down
state. Agent logs:
810986
somejfn commented on issue #2890: KVMHAMonitor thread blocks indefinitely while
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URL: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/issues/2890#issuecomment-432374446
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Fixes #2821
## Types of changes
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rafaelweingartner commented on issue #2918: Improved perfomance on creating VM
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>
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> Opps, found some strange `-gt` condition.
> `# is vlanBr up?`
> `ip link show dev $vlanBr > /dev/null 2>/dev/nu
Overv opened a new issue #2920: SSH key pairs are not searchable
URL: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/issues/2920
The `keyword` argument in `listSSHKeyPairs` is ignored, causing the search
in the UI not to work.
This is
bwsw commented on issue #2918: Improved perfomance on creating VM (KVM)
URL: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/2918#issuecomment-432299335
@rhtyd why don't you use
```
grep 'veth20fd2a1:' /proc/net/dev
```
instead of calling for `ip` command?
More specific
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`# is vlanBr up?`
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Opps, found some strange `-gt` condition.
`# is vlanBr up?`
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` if [ $?
blueorangutan commented on issue #2916: systemvm: Ensure cloud service reboots
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andrijapanic commented on issue #2870: KVM HyperV Enlightment for Improved
Windows Server 2008+ Performance
URL: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/2870#issuecomment-432218653
I agree on VirtIO stuff absolutely. It's just that, even with all FAQ and so
on, still end-user sometimes c
kiwiflyer commented on issue #2870: KVM HyperV Enlightment for Improved Windows
Server 2008+ Performance
URL: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/2870#issuecomment-432216214
@andrijapanic I'm open to changing it to use all Windows OS types. My mine
reason for picking one was some bac
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wido commented on issue #2913: Deactivate ehcache
URL: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/2913#issuecomment-432188112
I have seen some issues with ehcache as well on mgmt servers, we disabled it
often on deployment.
Th
rhtyd commented on issue #2880: [4.11.2]: rolling upgrade of VR results in
duplicate VRs
URL: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/issues/2880#issuecomment-432182058
Thanks for sharing @resmo let me investigate and get back to you
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resmo commented on issue #2880: [4.11.2]: rolling upgrade of VR results in
duplicate VRs
URL: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/issues/2880#issuecomment-432179489
@rhtyd still hitting this exception in rc3 with
`network.rolling.restart=false`
~~~
Caused by:
com.mysql.jdbc.exc
blueorangutan commented on issue #2793: Destroyvm also removes volumes
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rhtyd commented on issue #2918: Improved perfomance on creating VM (KVM)
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@alexanderbazhenoff can you rebase and edit base branch to 4.11 if possible?
T
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rhtyd commented on issue #2913: Deactivate ehcache
URL: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/2913#issuecomment-432136970
@marcaurele the idea of ehcache was to reduce some load to the db server.
Can you start a discussion thread on dev@ with details like what and how you'll
replace eh
marcaurele commented on issue #2913: Deactivate ehcache
URL: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/2913#issuecomment-432119404
@rafaelweingartner @rhtyd Before doing to much work if people would not
agree with my findings I simply wanted to push this PR to open the discussion
on ehcach
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