I'm discussing here and there a trick to assign good keywords to items in a
*consistent way* into any wiki project. The advantage could be, that they
could be searched *by presently running search engine*. I'm working into a
couple of wikisource projects, but I presume that the need of a comfortab
On the subject of making more accessible to other languages, perhaps
(forgive me if this has been said before), the introduction of a new
magic word, say {{LOCALLANGUAGE}} that gives the language code of what
the current interface language is would be useful. So by default it'd
be en, but if you se
Sounds workable in theory, can it be carried out in practice?
From: Platonides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2008 5:10:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening
Lars Aronsson wro
Lars Aronsson wrote:
> Maybe we should turn the system around, so our Swedish newcomers
> can upload images to the Swedish Wikipedia, where they are
> patrolled by Swedish speaking admins. Then, the patrolled images
> can be automatically forwarded to Commons, instead of the other
> way around.
Vassia Atanassova wrote:
> I would suggest another approach, decentralized and maybe simpler.
>
> There are two reasons behind having this separation between a common
> repository and local uploads:
> 1) understanding of fair-use is different across different countries and
> legislations and loc
In general, I like you idea, but I am concerned about every project
being allowed to host images which any other project can access.
Smaller projects simply don't have the manpower to check incoming
uploads, so copyvio uploaders wanting to endorse images will upload
them at very small projects and
With the new search engine implemented on enwiki, you could search «
incategory:Images_from_the_German_Federal_Archive ». Unfortunately it is not
implemented elsewhere.
— Sylvain Brunerie
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2008/12/6 Charlotte Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On 12/6/08, Daniel Kinzler <[EMAIL P
This appears to be great. But I will try later.
— Sylvain Brunerie
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2008/12/5 Magnus Manske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> As a spinoff of the discussion of category intersections on
> wikitech-l, I have ported my toolserver-powered JavaScript add-on to
> Commons.
>
> Screenshot:
I would suggest another approach, decentralized and maybe simpler.
There are two reasons behind having this separation between a common repository
and local uploads:
1) understanding of fair-use is different across different countries and
legislations and local uploads reflect the local underst
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 11:31 PM, Lars Aronsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> But as soon as it comes to image uploading, an area where the
> elderly have decades of photos to contribute, we're sending our
> beginners off to Wikimedia Commons. Even if the menues and most
> templates are localized
On 12/6/08, Daniel Kinzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It'S not coincidence that thea all have a specific template and are all in a
> specific source category :)
Maybe not a coincidence for you but from my perspective it's dumb luck. :p
I was originally thinking of something like this but with a
The idea of decentralizing languages off to home wikipedias sounds like a good
idea. A 26 language wiki simply cannot function effectively. I have a further
idea because the images coming to Commons may be copyright violations. Make
sure that contacts who speak English for each participating p
Is there some sort of document that details what type of copyright stuff is
necessary to be an admin? I think that the big point of cross appointed admins
is that they are someone who people already know. This would prevent alienation
and would allow for a logical translation.
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2008/12/6 Geoffrey Plourde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> You said the problem is a lack of administrators who speak the language,
> right? What about making cross appointments of administrators who complete a
> 12 hour online boot camp on Wikimedia Commons procedures?
The job of commons admin requires
You said the problem is a lack of administrators who speak the language, right?
What about making cross appointments of administrators who complete a 12 hour
online boot camp on Wikimedia Commons procedures?
From: Patricia Rodrigues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Wi
Patricia Rodrigues wrote:
> That's a wonderful idea! But many times our main problem is the
> lack of manpower in different languages to actually address
> different users.
The more I think about this human side of the problem, the more I
think we should go back to local uploading. The forwar
Is there some sort of mentor program in place? Maybe that should be a
possibility with a note in the templates and different templates if a badge is
present?
From: Bryan Tong Minh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Wikimedia Commons Discussion List
Sent: Saturday, Dece
That's a wonderful idea! But many times our main problem is the lack of
manpower in different languages to actually address different users. Don't let
[[Special:ListUsers/sysop]] fool you: only a handful of those 244 sysops is
actually very active. The problem runs deeper than multilingualism; i
A specific project to improve communication between communities and
usability of Wikimedia Commons, you mean? I've been kicking that idea
in the back of my head for some months now. We could ask users across
WMF projects what difficulties they usually find on Commons and ask
them to suggest what Co
Charlotte Webb schrieb:
> On 12/6/08, ChrisiPK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> How about searching the category with CatScan?
>> http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/CategoryIntersect.php?wikifam=commons.wikimedia.org
>
> Ah, this works but only by coincidence. Thanks.
It'S not coincidence that
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Platonides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lars Aronsson wrote:
>> Maybe we should turn the system around, so our Swedish newcomers
>> can upload images to the Swedish Wikipedia, where they are
>> patrolled by Swedish speaking admins. Then, the patrolled images
>> can b
Lars Aronsson wrote:
> I'm a man, I'm a C/UNIX programmer since 1986, I speak English,
> I've been on Wikipedia since May 2001, I have 4,000 edits on the
> English Wikipedia, 27,000 on the Swedish Wikipedia, and 1,500 on
> Wikimedia Commons; in 2005 I introduced page scanning on
> Wikisource.
The problems on Commons are a direct result of the enourmous growth in
Commons. Currently the counter is at 3.5M and that number is
increasing with 120K each month. Last time I checked (about a year
ago) about 10% to 20% of those images is deleted. If this value is
still the same, which I expect, t
This is indeed a problem, and over the last few years it is my
impression that non English speakers have become less comfortable on
Commons. Even such important pages as Commons Scope still only have two
translations (and part of a third) three months after the August
re-write went live. Most
On 12/6/08, ChrisiPK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How about searching the category with CatScan?
> http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/CategoryIntersect.php?wikifam=commons.wikimedia.org
Ah, this works but only by coincidence. Thanks.
—C.W.
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Commons is not just a Wikimedia service project, it is also a happy little
media repository indeed. So both things must go hand-in-hand. The issue is not
about Commons role in Wikimedia, it is about lack of communication.
--- On Sat, 6/12/08, David Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: David G
It appears many on Commons have forgotten its role as a service
project, not just a happy little media repository unbeholden to
anyone.
- d.
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http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/CategoryIntersect.php?wikifam=commons.wikimedia.org
2008/12/6 Charlotte Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On 12/3/08, Mathias Schindler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Starting on Thursday Dec 4, Wikimedia Commons will
Hoi,
When people who speak no English, they will not benefit from Commons. People
who do not speak English are not able to find useful images on Commons. As a
consequence there are several Wikipedia projects that do not promote the use
of Commons. When you combine it with "drive by deletionism" I f
On 12/3/08, Mathias Schindler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Starting on Thursday Dec 4, Wikimedia Commons will witness a massive
> upload of new images. We are anticipating about 100.000 files from a
> donation from the German Federal Archive. These images are mostly related to
> the history of Ger
Lars,
Thank you very much for your e-mail. I'm afraid I don't have any good answers
for you - your concern about how to treat people from other communities is a
big concern for many people, including myself. I'm afraid I don't have a magic
bullet for your problem, but I find the idea of allowin
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