Re: [Commons-l] Getting corporate representatives to donate photos

Hi Ryan, On 18-Sep-2012, at 3:14 PM, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > Let me offer a few case studies of cases in which a company has donated > images and then asked to have them deleted. Those case studies are fascination! Would it be okay if I copied it into http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Guid

Re: [Commons-l] Getting corporate representatives to donate photos

Let me offer a few case studies of cases in which a company has donated images and then asked to have them deleted. In one case we successfully kept the images, in two other cases we didn't... Case #1: Pearson Scott Foresman (educational publishing company) Donated: A couple thousand non-digiti

Re: [Commons-l] Getting corporate representatives to donate photos

On 9/18/12 1:02 AM, Andrew Gray wrote: One problem is that it's often not clear who actually *has* that authority in most organisations, even for someone within it. Where they deal with image licensing as a general rule (cultural institutions, publishers, media, etc) there'll usually be a system

Re: [Commons-l] Getting corporate representatives to donate photos

On 18 September 2012 15:38, David Gerard wrote: > It is if we want to get stuff that will benefit us. Are you actually > reading this thread or just randomly typing things? Small scales releases tend to have a poor hassle to results ratio. Particularly when our image archives are already pretty

Re: [Commons-l] Priorities for copyright and freedom (was: Copyright of deep space objects)

On English wikisource we use the absence of case law regarding foriegned government and judicial documents as sufficient justification for all these being PD in the US. See http://enws.org/Template:PD-GovEdict Most countries explicitly refuse copyright on thes

Re: [Commons-l] Getting corporate representatives to donate photos

On 18 September 2012 15:29, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > David Gerard, 18/09/2012 11:52: >> That word "just" ... you're trivialising that doing a simple thing has >> actually caused problems in the past. It would not have solved the >> PETA or Cafe Magazine examples, for example. > Internal pro

Re: [Commons-l] Getting corporate representatives to donate photos

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > David Gerard, 18/09/2012 11:52: > > That word "just" ... you're trivialising that doing a simple thing has >> actually caused problems in the past. It would not have solved the >> PETA or Cafe Magazine examples, for example. >> > > In

Re: [Commons-l] Getting corporate representatives to donate photos

David Gerard, 18/09/2012 11:52: That word "just" ... you're trivialising that doing a simple thing has actually caused problems in the past. It would not have solved the PETA or Cafe Magazine examples, for example. Internal problems of corporations can't be solved by us. Nemo

Re: [Commons-l] Priorities for copyright and freedom (was: Copyright of deep space objects)

A lovely exercise. I would put freedom and accessibility of legal documents, from government standards to case law, high on that list. Starting in larger countries where there is already motion to make this happen. SJ On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:30 AM, Michael Snow wrote: > On 9/17/2012 5:22

Re: [Commons-l] Getting corporate representatives to donate photos

On 18 September 2012 10:43, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > David Gerard, 18/09/2012 11:28: >> The target I'm thinking of is PR people who are actually fans of >> WIkipedia (these exist and are enthusiastic) and who can see something >> useful to them (get their pics into Wikipedia). So the trick i

Re: [Commons-l] Getting corporate representatives to donate photos

That does not solve the problem to do flickr washing, that just convince me more that we should not import from flickr. 2012/9/18 Federico Leva (Nemo) > David Gerard, 18/09/2012 11:28: > > The target I'm thinking of is PR people who are actually fans of >> WIkipedia (these exist and are enthusi

Re: [Commons-l] Getting corporate representatives to donate photos

David Gerard, 18/09/2012 11:28: The target I'm thinking of is PR people who are actually fans of WIkipedia (these exist and are enthusiastic) and who can see something useful to them (get their pics into Wikipedia). So the trick is how to make an image donation reasonably safe without causing so

Re: [Commons-l] Getting corporate representatives to donate photos

The simplest thing is to send a photographer from the closest chapter IMO ^_^. 2012/9/18 David Gerard > On 18 September 2012 09:25, Federico Leva (Nemo) > wrote: > > Andrew Gray, 18/09/2012 10:02: > > >> A couple of probable rules of thumb for our own comfort: > >> a) The more senior the contac

Re: [Commons-l] Getting corporate representatives to donate photos

On 18 September 2012 09:25, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Andrew Gray, 18/09/2012 10:02: >> A couple of probable rules of thumb for our own comfort: >> a) The more senior the contact (or the smaller the organisation they're >> in) the more likely they are to have authority; >> b) Any indication t

Re: [Commons-l] Priorities for copyright and freedom

Yann Forget, 18/09/2012 10:29: Oh, there already was a wishlist, and it is quite funny to see how fast it is already party obsolete. I think that # Buy the Encyclopaedia Britannica is not necessary any more. We have a better free encyclopedia. ;o) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Copyright_wish

Re: [Commons-l] Priorities for copyright and freedom (was: Copyright of deep space objects)

Hi, Oh, there already was a wishlist, and it is quite funny to see how fast it is already party obsolete. I think that # Buy the Encyclopaedia Britannica is not necessary any more. We have a better free encyclopedia. ;o) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Copyright_wishlist Regards, Yann 2012/9

Re: [Commons-l] Getting corporate representatives to donate photos

Andrew Gray, 18/09/2012 10:02: A couple of probable rules of thumb for our own comfort: a) The more senior the contact (or the smaller the organisation they're in) the more likely they are to have authority; b) Any indication that a legal, publishing, or licensing department was involved, the mo

Re: [Commons-l] Priorities for copyright and freedom

I've dropped the list on https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Liberating_laws (still adding some links). Nemo ___ Commons-l mailing list Commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l

[Commons-l] Getting corporate representatives to donate photos

One problem is that it's often not clear who actually *has* that authority in most organisations, even for someone within it. Where they deal with image licensing as a general rule (cultural institutions, publishers, media, etc) there'll usually be a system in place, but if not, the person we're de

Re: [Commons-l] Priorities for copyright and freedom

Just found this very cool page on the Creative Commons website that may be relevant to the discussion: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Government_use_of_Creative_Commons Ryan Kaldari On 9/17/12 9:59 PM, Yann Forget wrote: Hello, 2012/9/18 Michael Snow : On 9/17/2012 5:22 PM, Ryan Kaldari wro

Re: [Commons-l] Priorities for copyright and freedom

Yes, my list is probably too U.S.-centric. Would love to hear wish-list items from other parts of the world. As far as (impact x realistic) score, I would say getting states/countries to freely license all government works probably has the highest score. In the U.S., we have the federal governm

Re: [Commons-l] Getting corporate representatives to donate photos

On 18 September 2012 01:27, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > Just please make sure that whoever you talk to is actually authorized to > legally donate the rights to the images. We've had several cases where > someone at a company has donated a collection of images, but we later had to > delete them all beca