On 2/27/11 10:56 AM, Lars Aronsson wrote:
In my opinion, we should let Germans write software but
not welcome greetings, at least not in English
Well, this shouldn't be controversial at all!
Maybe a German wrote this originally, but the rest of us have had ample
opportunity to amend this.
Uh-huh.
Yt.
User Htm
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From: Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se
To: Wikimedia Commons Discussion List commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Friendliness
On February 22, this Commons
On 02/27/2011 08:05 PM, Neil Kandalgaonkar wrote:
Maybe a German wrote this originally, but the rest of us have had ample
opportunity to amend this. It's not German software; it's not American
software, it's OUR software. Rather than blame those who tried to fix a
problem, let's put our minds
On 23 February 2011 02:49, Gnangarra gnanga...@gmail.com wrote:
The wording of templates has been distilled down to the simplist cleanest
coldest plainest language possible to facilitate multilingual nature of
Commons and that comes across as being agressive and unfriendly.
And it still
Now that's constructive.
I would love to see something like that on Commons. But surely this is
not the first time this is suggested, and this has been rejected for a
reason?
Guillaume
Le 23/02/2011 15:58, Paul Houle a écrit :
As someone who develops media collections, I've been thinking
Not sure if anything as described below has ever been suggested, let alone
rejected. Wikimedia projects usually do not work in the same way as Paul
has indicated in the example for Flickr. Ownership is the main
difference, I think, but ways of using and embedding the resources are
also very
Why is and why should Ownership be such a big deal, what ever the re-use
license the author is still the image owner and always will be.
Commons best resource is always going to be our contributors because they
make Commons unique we should be encouraging that resource, but we dont
infact we
Hi Kevin,
Op 23 feb 2011 om 04:07 heeft Kevin Morgan morgankev...@gmail.com
het volgende geschreven:\
If the category field is a text field then that will likely lead to
categories being created that do not link to the index. Instead a drop
down menu or search feature should be used.
Did
Would it be that hard to keep track of users' contribution levels, and
Yes. It actually would be.
1) you need to program bots to be aware of users' contribution levels
2) You need to write, maintain and translate multiple levels of messages.
Boils down to my main point (don't worry David Gerard
On 23 February 2011 19:48, Daniel Schwen li...@schwen.de wrote:
Boils down to my main point (don't worry David Gerard did not read it either):
For someone going on (and on) about how thick-skinned everyone else
should be, you're remarkably thin-skinned yourself.
(This is, of course, a
For someone going on (and on) about how thick-skinned everyone else
should be, you're remarkably thin-skinned yourself.
Well, you are not a bot, are you? And you chose to invest the little
time you might have in writing something entirely unproductive yet
maximally dickish.
So that is kind of
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:02 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 23 February 2011 19:48, Daniel Schwen li...@schwen.de wrote:
Boils down to my main point (don't worry David Gerard did not read it
either):
For someone going on (and on) about how thick-skinned everyone else
should
On 2/23/11 11:48 AM, Daniel Schwen wrote:
Would it be that hard to keep track of users' contribution levels, and
Yes. It actually would be.
1) you need to program bots to be aware of users' contribution levels
2) You need to write, maintain and translate multiple levels of messages.
Boils
On 23 Feb 2011, at 20:21, Bryan Tong Minh wrote:
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:02 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 23 February 2011 19:48, Daniel Schwen li...@schwen.de wrote:
Boils down to my main point (don't worry David Gerard did not read it
either):
For someone going on
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On 23/02/11 15:39, Michael Peel wrote:
One potential improvement could be getting bot messages translated and made
friendlier via translatewiki.net, so that the burden of maintaining all of
the different language versions of the same message is
Exactly as you say, it's a vicious cycle -
That is what I said
do things that discourage
people from participating, then say that nothing can be changed because
the people aren't available.
That, however, is not what I said.
The root of the problem (as far as i see it) is not that any one is
On 23 February 2011 21:26, Daniel Schwen li...@schwen.de wrote:
That is kind of easy to say. It is not like commons currently has much
of a choice. Without the help of countless bots there would be no way
to deal with the workload.
It is entirely unclear that the work the bots do - which
On 23 Feb 2011, at 21:17, C Li wrote:
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On 23/02/11 15:39, Michael Peel wrote:
One potential improvement could be getting bot messages translated and made
friendlier via translatewiki.net, so that the burden of maintaining all of
the
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Maarten Dammers maar...@mdammers.nl wrote:
Hi Kevin,
Op 23 feb 2011 om 04:07 heeft Kevin Morgan morgankev...@gmail.com
het volgende geschreven:\
If the category field is a text field then that will likely lead to
categories being created that do not link to
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On 23/02/11 16:33, Michael Peel wrote:
I believe that it would be an appropriate place to translate standard bot
messages on Commons as well, if the Commons community wants that.
But there are no standard bot messages, since each bot is assumed
Very true. This little story is very representative of how Commons can
bite newbies (I know, I'm a biter). I believe that it is totally
possible to solve this kind of communication problem on Commons.
But I think the solution is to hire full-time administrators.
An active admin on Commons can
This guy took the words right out of my mouth.
I have only been part of the Commons community as a hired developer
since early 2010, but this conclusion is becoming very clear to me.
Somewhere along the line, in a totally legitimate quest for quality, the
community experience suffered greatly.
The categories is one issue that can be addressed, by changing the upload
page, at the moment its in the section marked *upload options* that should
be moved/reworded so its not an option. The other is to make it a text field
rather than the + so that it can be a compulsory field.
The wording of
If the category field is a text field then that will likely lead to
categories being created that do not link to the index. Instead a drop
down menu or search feature should be used. Also an option to attempt
to apply the categories used in a Wikipedia page would be very useful.
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Kevin Morgan
... we already see is that what is currently in place doesnt work and that
the notifications are putting people off further contributions.
If it starts to create categories, then thats useful because it shows that
what we use isnt what others are looking for we need to recognise that
then
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