Re: How ASF membership works and what it means

2003-06-24 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
on 6/24/03 6:59 AM Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: >>I think that we have multiple subcultures under the ASF umbrella, due to >>the way that the umbrella projects were formed. Whether you like that >>or not, I think that is the reality. I know that I personally would > > And I think that is a heal

Re: How ASF membership works and what it means

2003-06-24 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Ted Leung wrote: ..cut.. > >-> Organisationally xml and java are still lagging behind; > > but have been catching up (though the catch up has slowed down > > somewhat due to a much larger influx from the old school > > side; and that influx is by average younger

Re: How ASF membership works and what it means

2003-06-24 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > on 6/23/03 8:42 AM Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: ..cut.. > > -> In the java, and to some extend the xml world, we have much, much > > much more code which was only touched 1-4 times by <= 2 people > > over time. > > this is another problem a

Re: How ASF membership works and what it means

2003-06-24 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, robert burrell donkin wrote: > one interesting consequence of a general move within jakarta towards > extensive unit testing is that the time required to commit patches has > significantly increased. my experience now is that creating good unit > tests takes more than the ti