Re: FW: Microsoft's patent loss rattles tech community

2003-09-05 Thread David N. Welton
"Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > NO ONE should be permitted to have IP rights over public > infrastructure standards, except for the body charged with > protecting them for the public. Open Standards must be just that: > OPEN. Oh, I wholeheartedly agree! I just wanted to point ou

Re: FW: Microsoft's patent loss rattles tech community

2003-09-05 Thread Serge Knystautas
Noel J. Bergman wrote: As far as I am concerned, it would be desirable for the W3C should have a copyright on HTML, XML, etc., and be able to deny the right to use those standards to anyone claiming IP rights over them. Other standards bodies should likewise adopt a policy to protect their standar

RE: FW: Microsoft's patent loss rattles tech community

2003-09-05 Thread Noel J. Bergman
David, ... what if some other big player were to acquire or merge with us? What if only one best-of-breed browser could run embedded plug-ins, applets, ActiveX controls, or anything like them, and it wasn't IE? How competitive would the other

Re: FW: Microsoft's patent loss rattles tech community

2003-09-05 Thread David N. Welton
Brian Behlendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > With respect to the mess of software patents, here is an example where > > initially most people laughed, "Ha ha, they fed Microsoft!", until it > > slowly began to dawn on people that this is a huge

Re: Make use of announce@

2003-09-05 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 10:32:07 +0100 Thom May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any ASF member can commit to the main www.apache.org website. Aha, this explained enough. -- member -- oh, that's right. Thanks for the explanation. -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) P.S. Then, I can not figure out the raiso

RE: FW: Microsoft's patent loss rattles tech community

2003-09-05 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> Is there any indication yet that Eolas intends to enforce this patent on > any open source or free software projects? >From their attorney's web site (and from the UC web site): Q. Won't this patent put a stranglehold on the Internet? A. UC seeks fair compensation for the use of the technology

Re: FW: Microsoft's patent loss rattles tech community

2003-09-05 Thread Brian Behlendorf
On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > With respect to the mess of software patents, here is an example where > initially most people laughed, "Ha ha, they fed Microsoft!", until it > slowly began to dawn on people that this is a huge problem. Is there any indication yet that Eolas inten