Re: LCD evaluation and other preparations for FC handset

2018-04-17 Thread Mychaela Falconia
OK, so I picked up the package from HaoRan LCD company and examined their LCDs. Two observations, one expected, the other unexpected: The expected observation: the end of the FPC tail that is meant to go into a connector has straight edges, the corners are sharp 90 deg, no rounding. The unexpect

Re: LCD evaluation and other preparations for FC handset

2018-04-17 Thread Pičugins Arsenijs
> [...] this idea will NOT work for our FreeCalypso handset. Our PCB will > have 8 layers with lots of traces on every layer (intricate 2+4+2 HDI > structure with inner buried vias and two levels of staggered microvias > on each side), and the width of the PCB will extend only slightly past > the w

Re: LCD evaluation and other preparations for FC handset

2018-04-17 Thread Das Signal
Hi Mychaela, > * For the data and control lines, the other end of the wire would need > to go to a pin on an FT2232D breakout board just like the ones we use > for FCDEV3B UARTs - how would this connection be made? Each Kynar wire would be soldered to a classic 2.54mm female wire that can be plug

Re: LCD evaluation and other preparations for FC handset

2018-04-17 Thread Mychaela Falconia
Hi Arsenijs! > A common practice is also putting the connector on the other side of > the PCB, then making a slot which the cable is supposed to go through. > This way, you don't have to worry about LCD and the connector > occupying the same space. Startek folks (one of the two LCD vendors I am w

Re: LCD evaluation and other preparations for FC handset

2018-04-17 Thread Pičugins Arsenijs
> At first I thought "OK, fine, I'll just put the needed FPC connector > on our board", but then I realized that there is a problem: where will > the body of the connector go? Two solid objects cannot occupy the > same space at the same time... How can the LCD rest flat against the > PCB surface if

Re: LCD evaluation and other preparations for FC handset

2018-04-16 Thread Mychaela Falconia
Hi DS! > A PCB will certainly be very useful for your testing. As a note, you > may also consider the possibility of directly soldering some Kynar AWG30 > to your LCD's connector. While this is a bit delicate, it's very doable > (I did this some time ago on a JTAG's flex cable). In this way you ca

Re: LCD evaluation and other preparations for FC handset

2018-04-16 Thread Das Signal
Hi Mychaela, A PCB will certainly be very useful for your testing. As a note, you may also consider the possibility of directly soldering some Kynar AWG30 to your LCD's connector. While this is a bit delicate, it's very doable (I did this some time ago on a JTAG's flex cable). In this way you can

Re: LCD evaluation and other preparations for FC handset

2018-04-15 Thread Mychaela Falconia
Hi Serg! > Probably should start looking into enclosure design. I am taking a different approach: Step 1: design and build the first prototype motherboard in such a way that it can be comfortably used bare on a lab bench, without any kind of case or enclosure. The LCD will be mounted in such a

Re: LCD evaluation and other preparations for FC handset

2018-04-15 Thread Serg l
Excellent! https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:189940/#comments Probably should start looking into enclosure design. I can make small stuff, up to 120x120x300 mm single part. On Sun, Apr 15, 2018, 7:17 PM Mychaela Falconia wrote: > Hello FC community, > > An update on the FreeCalypso handset pro

Re: LCD evaluation and other preparations for FC handset

2018-04-15 Thread Mychaela Falconia
Hello FC community, An update on the FreeCalypso handset project: I am still in the process of evaluating candidate LCDs from different vendors. All of the candidate LCD manufacturers I am evaluating are based in Shenzhen, China - that city seems to be the world capital for fast-turn electronic d

Re: LCD evaluation and other preparations for FC handset

2018-04-10 Thread Das Signal
Hi Mychaela, You are unfortunately correct, that trace is on L6. Looking at L7 and bottom layers, there are many traces and I can't see any easy way that trace could be cut without a PhD in PCB microsurgery. :/ > > BTW is there an easter egg in the PCB layout? I can read "TimLee Allen > > Shawn J

Re: LCD evaluation and other preparations for FC handset

2018-04-10 Thread Mychaela Falconia
Hi DS! > Looking at the project in Altium, it seems the signal trace from D5 to > U201 sits at the bottom layer. Do you have the ability to run Altium and open the PcbDoc natively? If so, highlight the net named FDP. I don't have the ability to run Altium myself (no Windows), but looking at the

Re: LCD evaluation and other preparations for FC handset

2018-04-09 Thread Das Signal
On Sat, Apr 07, 2018 at 06:21:15PM -0800, Mychaela Falconia wrote: > And we still need to fix and close the sleep mode bug. I have a high > confidence in my current hypothesis that FDP driving the flash chip's > reset line is the culprit, but it looks like we won't be able to test > it empiricall

LCD evaluation and other preparations for FC handset

2018-04-07 Thread Mychaela Falconia
So I am progressing with the evaluation of candidate LCD modules for our FreeCalypso Libre Dumbphone handset. So far I have received sample LCD module pieces from two different Chinese manufacturers, let's call them Vendor A and Vendor B, 5 sample pieces from each. There is also a third manufactur