Hello,
As this mailing list becomes more popular and the traffic increases, I
would really appreciate if people would not reply to other messages by
simply adding a new subject because this screws up my threading of the
mailing list. Instead, start a new email so the message is not
considere
Robert Michel wrote:
> PS:
>> The data call could be made to any ISDN Internet dail in point,
>> or you could use an old GSM phone with modem and RS232 or usb and
>> connect it to a box - e.g. NSLU2 ;)
> Maybe not the best box for encrypted phone calls,
> the ethernet driver is not yet open source.
Salve!
Robert Michel schrieb am Donnerstag, den 23. November 2006 um 02:11h:
> But to stopp your/our BT yelling, I will do it already now:
Sorry, I wanted to focus on the core potential of this
phone and what does me let not sleep?
;)
So excuse me - but this idee must be free:
> If the phone su
Salve!
I thought about to do not post about the possibility of
encrypted phone calls with the Neo1973 untill I have one ;)
One open smartphone with a linux SDK,
which also is free of (close source) binaries in the kernel
(Thank you Sean to take care of this)
- so that this plattform is quite trus
Salve Ben!
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006, Ben F-W wrote:
> Robert Michel wrote:
> >But when we concentrate on the core functions, to make them very
> >usable - and add some new/fresh ideas like
> > 8 ways to answer a phone (now, mailbox "sorry I'm busy call me in 15
> > minutes again)
> >then will become
Stefan Schmidt wrote:
Ah, now I understand what you mean!
Nice. (/me makes another dash on his
explain-people-the-open-source-way-of-thinking list). ;)
To be fair, we're now some way from your original comment. We've gone
from "rival companies copying GPL'd programs is exactly what FIC
Richard Franks wrote:
the main competitive
differentiation is that you will be able to find software for the phone
to do just about anything. That is, instead of focusing on a particular
'killer app', make the 'killer app' the fact that you are not being
restricted by or charged for features or
>> For example - I'm not hearing much about middleware in the OpenMoko API
>> - how different applications can collaborate, create metadata (e.g. for
>> usage-prediction), and share resources or data - I suspect (although I'd
>> love to be wrong) that there isn't much support for such things.
> Co
> Redvers Davies (openmoko) wrote:
>> Call screening.
>>
>> When someone calls you and they go to answering machine you can listen
>> and pick up if you choose.
> Interesting idea, Redvers! There seem to be several good possibilities
> focussing around the answering machine services: the ability to
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Richard Franks schreef:
> For example - I'm not hearing much about middleware in the OpenMoko API
> - how different applications can collaborate, create metadata (e.g. for
> usage-prediction), and share resources or data - I suspect (although I'd
> lo
> Sean, any chance of a wiki going up yet, so we can collate all the
> application ideas so far? I know you haven't got much to do at the moment...
I was very impressed with the ease and speed of setting up MediaWiki.
I'd be interested in joining a development effort before seeing the
OpenMoko
Hi guys, please remember to change the topic
when the thread drifts off into something
slightly or completely different ;)
> Well there's the benq Blackbox concept out there which is essentially a phone
> that has a touchscreen all over that does show context sensitive buttons.
> However, I'm not
On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 21:34 +, Ben F-W wrote:
> However, if what you say is true, there would be a major effort required
> by the rival in converting the app over to their handset (if it runs
> Qtopia). That doesn't mean that they couldn't do it, but it's a lot harder.
> And you should not fo
Hello.
On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 21:34, Ben F-W wrote:
> Stefan Schmidt wrote:
> >
> >Porting the apps from OpenMoko over to Qtopia is a real pita. No new
> >kernel features, X instead of framebuffer, gtk instead of qt. Writing
> >it from scratch seems easier for me.
> >
> Ah, now I understand wha
On Wednesday 22 November 2006 22:34, Ben F-W wrote:
> Taking account of this, I wonder if it would be possible/useful to be
> able to 'skin' the user interface? Not just in a visual way, but so that
> people could switch their phone from operating like a Nokia to operating
> like a Motorola to a So
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Ben F-W schreef:
> Koen Kooi wrote:
>> Ben F-W schreef:
>>
>>> Could you explain this? How would it benefit FIC for a rival
>>> manufacturer to take a program developed for the OpenMoko platform and
>>> adjust it to work on their own, closed, Linux i
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
On 11/22/06 1:21 AM, "Ben F-W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I hope you don't mind my speculating in the meantime?
Not at all. I really like the fact that we are having (somewhat at least)
non-technical discussion, too. This is really exciting for me.
I'm pleased
Robert Michel wrote:
But when we concentrate on the core functions, to make them very
usable - and add some new/fresh ideas like
8 ways to answer a phone (now, mailbox "sorry I'm busy call me in 15
minutes again)
then will become the OpenMoko plattform interesting for the mass market
and of
Koen Kooi wrote:
Ben F-W schreef:
Could you explain this? How would it benefit FIC for a rival
manufacturer to take a program developed for the OpenMoko platform and
adjust it to work on their own, closed, Linux implementation on their
phones?
That's where the GPL and Harald's lawyers c
Stefan Schmidt wrote:
On Tue, 2006-11-21 at 17:12, Ben F-W wrote:
Stefan Schmidt wrote:
Nothing. It's exactly what FIC want.
Could you explain this? How would it benefit FIC for a rival
manufacturer to take a program developed for the OpenMoko platform and
adjust it to work on
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006, Stefan Schmidt wrote:
Hello.
On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 22:08, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote:
maybe it would be interesting to have usb host support
in the mobile phone? not because normal users need it,
It _has_ usb host. But only unpowered. So you perhaps need an external
se
Hello.
On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 22:08, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote:
> maybe it would be interesting to have usb host support
> in the mobile phone? not because normal users need it,
It _has_ usb host. But only unpowered. So you perhaps need an external
selfpowered hub. For more details read the ml arc
maybe it would be interesting to have usb host support
in the mobile phone? not because normal users need it,
but developers could play the "what if we had a phone
with x/y/z" game much easier by adding such hardware via
usb, and writing cool applications for it. later the next
generation could a
Redvers Davies (openmoko) wrote:
Call screening.
When someone calls you and they go to answering machine you can listen
and pick up if you choose.
Interesting idea, Redvers! There seem to be several good possibilities
focussing around the answering machine services: the ability to select
betwe
On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 20:43 +0100, Koen Kooi wrote:
> >> does agps require a sutiable infrastructure at the network operator
> >> side or does it just work?
> >
> > The 'assisted' part suggests remote (charged) computation. I was
> > thinking of something more sneaky, bearing in mind increased acc
> does agps require a sutiable infrastructure at the network operator
> side or does it just work?
The 'assisted' part suggests remote (charged) computation. I was
thinking of something more sneaky, bearing in mind increased access to
the metal -- mind you, when I read the spec I missed the point
does agps require a sutiable infrastructure at the network operator
side or does it just work?
On 11/22/06, Koen Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Richard Franks schreef:
> On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 15:12 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> All I really w
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> On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 15:12 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> All I really want from the Neo is a GPS application that helps me when
>>> I have gone senile and can't find my car in a big parking lot. Ideally
>>> it would con
On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 15:12 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > All I really want from the Neo is a GPS application that helps me when
> > I have gone senile and can't find my car in a big parking lot. Ideally
> > it would constantly monitor my speed and "mark" the last place I
> > changed from dri
Mikko J Rauhala wrote:
> With apologies for keeping the "we want Bluetooth" thread alive, I'd
> nevertheless like to commend this suggestion if this is, in fact, the
> case. Eg. if the phone software might not be taking full advantage of a
> Bluetooth interface early on, it's still a win to have it
Hello.
On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 17:40, Michael Lauer wrote:
>
> please let Bluetooth rest for a while.
>
> We all want to see it and it's obviously
> not a matter of whether FIC finds it useful or not...
Full ACK.
Think about what what your phone has never been able to do for you.
regards
Stefan
On ti, 2006-11-21 at 10:46 -0800, Chad wrote:
> Reading between the lines here - it sounds like there's some issue
> keeping BT from working correctly - if the issues are only in the
> software stack and can be worked around later, I'd personally rather
> have the hardware included even if it's onl
Guys,
please let Bluetooth rest for a while.
We all want to see it and it's obviously
not a matter of whether FIC finds it useful or not...
Regards,
:M:
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Michael 'Mickey' Lauer | IT-Freelancer | http://www.vanille-media.de
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N+1th mail about bluetooth
1) turn your phone into a AGPS receiver for your laptop (not all apps. will run
on your phone after all)
2) hands free speaking (I know SCO support is still not perfect but it is
usable)
3) dialup for your laptop (see 1)
4) PC-sync
5) file exchange
.
.
.
Bluetooth is su
Salve *!
Robert Michel schrieb am Mittwoch, den 22. November 2006 um 16:05h:
> Special shopping offer - you haven't the time to go monday morning into
> the shop zz to catch one of the special offers - but you can ask your
> familie, friends and neighbour to do it for you - the first of them
> who
Two reasons for writing:
1) I _LOVE_ the simplicity:
Dialer
Contacts
Application Manager
Calendar
More...
I can manage I.T. just fine, thanks -- it's my profession.
The clicky speaky thing in my hand/pocket, I treat entirely
differently. I want to be as *simple* as possible ... at least,
On Wednesday 22 November 2006 16:05, Robert Michel wrote:
> This could build a private, non-comercial financial network of trust,
> which maybe could also used for mini-credits or even bigger ones.
>
> The private banking and sharing "tasks" should IMHO
> independent of one big server, one company,
On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 08:58 +0100, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
> I see more and more people using it as phone. Personally I find the design
> ridiculous (big, crufty software) and never quite understood the use of push
> email anyway...
Push email is important when you are relying on email for timely
Salve collin!
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Quoting Joe Bushong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >All I really want from the Neo is a GPS application that helps me when
> >I have gone senile and can't find my car in a big parking lot. Ideally
> >it would constantly monitor my speed and
Salve collin, *!
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Quoting Sean Moss-Pultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >On 11/22/06 2:38 AM, "Koen Kooi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>I've been playing with http://live.gnome.org/GeoClue lately, which is
> >>pretty
> >>neat stuff.
> >>Having a db
Quoting Sean Moss-Pultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
On 11/22/06 2:38 AM, "Koen Kooi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I've been playing with http://live.gnome.org/GeoClue lately, which is pretty
neat stuff.
Having a dbus service that has your positition (altitude, velocity, heading,
etc) would be
a good st
Quoting Joe Bushong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
All I really want from the Neo is a GPS application that helps me when
I have gone senile and can't find my car in a big parking lot. Ideally
it would constantly monitor my speed and "mark" the last place I
changed from driving speeds to a long period of
On 11/22/06 4:11 AM, "Stefan Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Another point you forgot here is that FIC have with OpenMoko a
>>> platform for new devices with low engineering cost. Some new
>>> hardware driver, a little bit GUI polish and that's it. No need to
>>> complete redesign a phone
On 11/22/06 2:38 AM, "Koen Kooi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been playing with http://live.gnome.org/GeoClue lately, which is pretty
> neat stuff.
> Having a dbus service that has your positition (altitude, velocity, heading,
> etc) would be
> a good start for an 'API'.
> Having geoclue work
On 11/22/06 1:21 AM, "Ben F-W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
>> Please understand that market questions are not something I can freely talk
>> about at this point. We're just beginning a really long term plan. I
>> wouldn't want to show our cards, too early ;-)
>>
> That's
On Tuesday 21 November 2006 18:11, Ben F-W wrote:
> Interesting, Gabriel: I hadn't thought of that. In the same way,
> Blackberry started off as an email device, and in most people's minds
> that's all it is.
I see more and more people using it as phone. Personally I find the design
ridiculous
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