Re: GPIO link Re: The audio IC Wolfson WM8753 is cool :)))))

2006-12-13 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Koen, *! Robert Michel schrieb am Mittwoch, den 13. Dezember 2006 um 00:12h: > > On Tue, 12 Dec 2006, Koen Kooi wrote: > > > > PS: Again, it seems that an FPGA between the I/O connectors > > > > and the other chips would encrease the power of the Neo1973, > > > > e.g. the FPGA could

[Neo1973] AGPS - globallocal cuckoo's egg? Re: AGPS server questions

2006-12-13 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Harald, Sean! I fear AGPS from globallocal is a coockoo's egg - they anounced that their AGPS chips cost only 5 US$ - I fear they will make money with their AGPS server services http://www.globallocate.com/NETWORK/NET_AGPS_SERVER_Frameset.htm Like selling cheap pringer or mobiles and make th

Re: [Neo1973] AGPS - globallocal cuckoo's egg? Re: AGPS server questions

2006-12-13 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Wednesday 13 December 2006 13:57, Robert Michel wrote: > I fear AGPS from globallocal is a coockoo's egg - they anounced that > their AGPS chips cost only 5 US$ - I fear they will make money with > their AGPS server services If the GPS can do indoor GPS without assistance (which is what the sit

Re: [Neo1973] AGPS - globallocal cuckoo's egg? Re: AGPS server questions

2006-12-13 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On 12/13/06 9:24 PM, "Gabriel Ambuehl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I fear AGPS from globallocal is a coockoo's egg - they anounced that >> their AGPS chips cost only 5 US$ - I fear they will make money with >> their AGPS server services > > If the GPS can do indoor GPS without assistance (which

Re: [Neo1973] AGPS - globallocal cuckoo's egg? Re: AGPS server questions

2006-12-13 Thread Oleg Gusev
Am Mittwoch, 13. Dezember 2006 13:57 schrieb Robert Michel: > > Maybe I don't know enough, but for me it smells like that globallocal > AGPS is only used with AGPS servers - and with the risk that this > server knows the location of every globallocal user after connection. > It's obvious ;) > > I

Re: [Neo1973] AGPS - globallocal cuckoo's egg? Re: AGPS server questions

2006-12-13 Thread Oleg Gusev
Am Mittwoch, 13. Dezember 2006 14:43 schrieb Sean Moss-Pultz: > > And I wouldn't give you a chipset that would cost you money just to use and > would locked to a single solution. That would completely contradict the > concept of OpenMoko. > Sean, will the chip be connected over SPI or a normal

Re: [Neo1973] AGPS - globallocal cuckoo's egg? Re: AGPS server questions

2006-12-13 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On 12/13/06 9:59 PM, "Oleg Gusev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > will the chip be connected over SPI or a normal serial port ? UART. -Sean ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/com

Re: [Neo1973] AGPS - globallocal cuckoo's egg? Re: AGPS server questions

2006-12-13 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Sean, Oleg, *! Sorry, it was not my intention to then my mail to the list, and probably it has not the right style/sound - I didn't want to write bad about globallocal, I just feared that assisted data for the globallocal AGPS is based on a non open protocoll. Oleg Gusev schrieb am Mittwoch

Re: [Neo1973] AGPS - globallocal cuckoo's egg? Re: AGPS server questions

2006-12-13 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Gabriel! Gabriel Ambuehl schrieb am Mittwoch, den 13. Dezember 2006 um 14:24h: > On Wednesday 13 December 2006 13:57, Robert Michel wrote: > > I fear AGPS from globallocal is a coockoo's egg - they anounced that > > their AGPS chips cost only 5 US$ - I fear they will make money with > > the

OMA-SUPL link Re: AGPS server questions

2006-12-13 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Sean! Sorry, to post my pmail to the list - I didn't want to harm a good globallocal support. Sean Moss-Pultz schrieb am Mittwoch, den 13. Dezember 2006 um 21:43h: > On 12/13/06 9:24 PM, "Gabriel Ambuehl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I fear AGPS from globallocal is a coockoo's egg -

FCC status for FIC Neo1973?

2006-12-13 Thread La Monte Henry Piggy Yarroll
Would anyone care to comment on the FCC status of the FIC Neo1973? In particular, are there any legal challenges associated with using prototypes on a live GSM network? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmok

RE: FCC status for FIC Neo1973?

2006-12-13 Thread David Schlesinger
Do you mean "legal challenges" beyond its use being, strictly speaking, a violation of Federal law, not to mention completely outside the terms of service of any major carrier...? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of La Monte Henry Piggy Yarroll Sent: Wed 12/13/2006 7

Admin tools like screen

2006-12-13 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! What would admins to love to have on their smartphones? I have used the J2ME SSH (1) client flydssh for a while, together with screen quite nice - but some things did I missed. So some ideas to use a secure connection to the servers more efficent. This should be just a start hear your ide

Re: FCC status for FIC Neo1973?

2006-12-13 Thread Jeff Andros
not to mention completely outside the terms of service of any major carrier...? a while ago, I spoke to both Cingular and T-Mob, I told them I was doing some work with a gm-862, both said there was nothing in their service restrictions about connecting with weird equipment like that --Jeff On

Feedback from the German "Federal Agency for Cartography and Geodesy" www.bkg.bund.de :)

2006-12-13 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Sean, *! Robert Michel schrieb am Mittwoch, den 13. Dezember 2006 um 16:04h: > Beside to have free sources for the data, I have had a mail contact with Mr. Christian Waese from the BKG, and their data casts on www.euref-ip.net or www.igs-ip.net are useable for everybody - free of charge an

Re: openmoko as a slimserver client or remote control

2006-12-13 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Stefanie! On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Stefanie Tellex wrote: > This requires wireless internet, but it wouldn't be hard to get a > slimserver client running on the phone, so you could stream your mp3s to > the phone and listen to them. Push a button, and your phone starts > streaming music from y

Global Locate Ephemeris Data

2006-12-13 Thread Richard Franks
Would we be violating the license by redistributing this data, or additional data based entirely upon that data source to other Neo1973 units? I'm wondering about the possibility of leveraging off the fact that all Neo1973 units should have a very unified idea of the current time to increase the

Re: Global Locate Ephemeris Data

2006-12-13 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Richard! Ahh, it seems that the idea of distributed lightning detection has inspired you for something (maybe) more usefull *g* On Wed, 13 Dec 2006, Richard Franks wrote: > Would we be violating the license by redistributing this data, or > additional data based entirely upon that data so

Re: Text entry

2006-12-13 Thread Christopher Heiny
Yet another text entry method. Very amenable to tapping. http://blogs.sun.com/korn/date/20061211 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

yet another fantasy idea: nextel-like walkie talkie feature?

2006-12-13 Thread michael
I suppose everyone is familiar with the Nextel feature that behaves a bit like a walkie-talkie. In summary, you can contact anyone within certian groups in a half-duplex (meaning only one talks at a time) push-to-talk like environment. I suspect this needs support at the provider, which I suppose

Re: Admin tools like screen

2006-12-13 Thread Mikko Rauhala
ke, 2006-12-13 kello 16:59 +0100, Robert Michel kirjoitti: > When you use screen on your mobile you need to have multiple > SSH connections to your server - everytime you open a new > terminal you need a new login - key based login would help, > but would not be so secure SSH has the ability to mu

Re: Global Locate Ephemeris Data

2006-12-13 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Richard, *! Robert Michel schrieb am Mittwoch, den 13. Dezember 2006 um 19:28h: > GPS normaly needs the signal from 4 satellites - what about instead > of making the accuracy higher, helping neo4 that could receive data > from ony 3 satellites? What about synchronise Wi-Fi and broacasting t

Re: yet another fantasy idea: nextel-like walkie talkie feature?

2006-12-13 Thread Mikko Rauhala
ke, 2006-12-13 kello 10:26 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti: > I suppose everyone is familiar with the Nextel feature that behaves a bit like > a walkie-talkie. In summary, you can contact anyone within certian groups in a > half-duplex (meaning only one talks at a time) push-to-talk like environ

Re: yet another fantasy idea: nextel-like walkie talkie feature?

2006-12-13 Thread Ole Tange
On 12/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I suppose everyone is familiar with the Nextel feature that behaves a bit like a walkie-talkie. In summary, you can contact anyone within certian groups in a half-duplex (meaning only one talks at a time) push-to-talk like environment. I

Re: yet another fantasy idea: nextel-like walkie talkie feature?

2006-12-13 Thread Mikko Rauhala
ke, 2006-12-13 kello 20:16 +, Ole Tange kirjoitti: > I am wondering why you want push-to-talk when you can have VoIP using > SIP or just a normal GSM conversation? Can you elaborate on why? Full-fledged VOIP over GPRS is iffy due to quality of service issues that don't hamper the playback of s

FCC status for FIC Neo1973?

2006-12-13 Thread Graham Auld
I wouldn't expect such an issue as i expect the GSM module will be correctly certified and as access is via AT command set you /shouldn't/ be able to make it do things it's not allowed to... someone please correct me if i'm incorrect in my assumptions Graham _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: FCC status for FIC Neo1973?

2006-12-13 Thread Jeremy
I'm no expert at all, but I do know that when we were designing a device with a Kyocera m200 CDMA data module (http://www.kyocera-wireless.com/m2m-business/index.htm), the module itself was carrier (Sprint in our case) approved and FCC approved, but once we incorporated it into our device, we t

FCC status for FIC Neo1973?

2006-12-13 Thread Graham Auld
fair point, things like the antenna type/positioning will affect rf emmissions and i doubt the antenna is integral to the GSM unit. but going back to the intent of the original question, i expect the neo will be FCC approved so that it may be sold state side and i suspect FIC will be selling the

Re: FCC status for FIC Neo1973?

2006-12-13 Thread Paul Bohme
Jeremy wrote: I'm no expert at all, but I do know that when we were designing a device with a Kyocera m200 CDMA data module (http://www.kyocera-wireless.com/m2m-business/index.htm), the module itself was carrier (Sprint in our case) approved and FCC approved, but once we incorporated it into o

Re: FCC status for FIC Neo1973?

2006-12-13 Thread Tim Newsom
Once its FCC certified, why would it matter? It should be just like getting any phone from any vendor and putting your SIM in to get service. You may have a hard time getting support for configurations because the vendor won't know how to do things with the neo1973, but they can push the conf

Re: FCC status for FIC Neo1973?

2006-12-13 Thread Paul Bohme
Tim Newsom wrote: Once its FCC certified, why would it matter? It should be just like getting any phone from any vendor and putting your SIM in to get service. Heh, I can dream it would be that easy.. ;-) For the devices I've been working with the last couple of years (stationary, constant G

Re: OMA-SUPL link Re: AGPS server questions

2006-12-13 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On 12/13/06 11:04 PM, "Robert Michel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry, to post my pmail to the list - I didn't want to harm > a good globallocal support. No problem. I'm sure they would like to know what their customers want in the way of services. Bringing things out into the open for discuss

Re: yet another fantasy idea: nextel-like walkie talkie feature?

2006-12-13 Thread michael
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006, Ole Tange wrote: On 12/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I suppose everyone is familiar with the Nextel feature that behaves a bit like a walkie-talkie. In summary, you can contact anyone within certian groups in a half-duplex (meaning only one tal