Re: Fwd: OpenMoko in my area?

2007-01-16 Thread Marcel de Jong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Bohme wrote: Mike wrote: Marcel de Jong wrote: ps. I really don't like the fact that 'reply' doesn't work on this mailinglist. I have to add the mailaddress myself. (this is the only mailinglist that I know, that does that this way)

Re: Fwd: OpenMoko in my area?

2007-01-16 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia wtorek, 16 stycznia 2007 00:45, Marcel de Jong napisał: I really don't like the fact that 'reply' doesn't work on this mailinglist. I have to add the mailaddress myself. (this is the only mailinglist that I know, that does that this way) Nearly all lists which I read are configured

Re: Bluetooth questions from a bluetooth guy

2007-01-16 Thread Brad Midgley
Bluetooth profiles are optional and not all are uniformly or completely implemented on bluez. It's also worth noting that the bluetooth consortium wants all advertised profiles to be implemented completely and to go through an expensive qualification process. I wouldn't be surprised if openmoko

Re: Fwd: OpenMoko in my area?

2007-01-16 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Krier schreef: Marcel de Jong wrote: On 1/15/07, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm in the US, in New York city. What networks can I use a Neo1973 phone on? Do all GSM carriers accept all GSM phones? In contrast to CDMA phones, a GSM

Re: Wish: easy connecting with linux

2007-01-16 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia poniedziałek, 15 stycznia 2007 22:45, Sven Neuhaus napisał: Get bluetooth for your PC, establish a PPP link via the serial port profile and you're set. No additional software required (if you run linux on your PC). PAN is much easier and does not add any extra layers. -- JID:

Re: community Digest, Vol 10, Issue 11

2007-01-16 Thread Derek Pressnall
I have never seen a device where the same connector could act as both audio-in and audio-out, I have a device that does that, the Sharp Zaurus. From what I understand, a microphone has a different impedence than a headphone speaker, so the hardware switches the one earpiece betwean mic and

LCD

2007-01-16 Thread thomas.cooksey
The specs for the NEO say it boasts a 2.8 640x480 display. From my calculations this is 285 dpi, which is just awesome... In fact it's so good that I almost don't believe it. What LCD is actually in the phone (MakeModel?). I've searched all the LCD manufactures I can think of and none of them have

Re: kexec-arm.patch? Re: Question about kernel level hacking

2007-01-16 Thread Arthur Marsh
Robert Michel wrote, On 13/01/07 04:01: Salve Alessandro! On Fri, 12 Jan 2007, Alessandro Iurlano wrote: As I am mainly a low level programmer I will probably try to put my hands on the Neo at kernel level like customizing the linux kernel with patches or even try to program the Neo with my

Re: Fwd: OpenMoko in my area?

2007-01-16 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
* Marcel de Jong [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070115 23:24]: On 1/15/07, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm in the US, in New York city. What networks can I use a Neo1973 phone on? Do all GSM carriers accept all GSM phones? In contrast to CDMA phones, a GSM phone isn't normally locked to a

Re: Fwd: OpenMoko in my area?

2007-01-16 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
* Mike Krier [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070116 00:11]: I agree with this, and I'd also like to add that this list should also auto-prepend a marker in the subject line like most other lists do, for example [OMOKO-COM] so that we can set up mail filters. But it does already set a marker: List-Id:

Re: MikroSD under the battery - unmount, sleep modus, small capacitator Re: MicroSD Wifi ?

2007-01-16 Thread Grahame Falvey
On 16/01/07, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Salve Joe! On Mon, 15 Jan 2007, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: Grahame Falvey writes: Is the microSD slot accessable while the phone is operational? Or does one have to remove the battery and hence power down the device in order to swap out the

Re: community Digest, Vol 10, Issue 11

2007-01-16 Thread Grahame Falvey
On 16/01/07, Derek Pressnall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have never seen a device where the same connector could act as both audio-in and audio-out, I have a device that does that, the Sharp Zaurus. From what I understand, a microphone has a different impedence than a headphone speaker, so the

Re: Idea: Human screenning

2007-01-16 Thread Paul Bohme
Ole Tange wrote: On 1/15/07, Paul Bohme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Crossland wrote: On 15/01/07, Gervais Mulongoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh, until the phone spam operators start using basic voice recognition and to defeat the simple riddle :p Spammers don't do email address

I'd like to see a Neo1973 running without battery, but USB powered :) Re: Kingmax announces microSDHC 4G card

2007-01-16 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Ole, *! On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Ole Tange wrote: If the microSD is pinwise compatible with SD, would it be possible to: * take out the battery * attach the battery using wires If the Neo1973 could run only with USB power (without battery) than you would be able to skip this point attach

Re: MikroSD under the battery - unmount, sleep modus, small capacitator Re: MicroSD Wifi ?

2007-01-16 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Grahame! On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Grahame Falvey wrote: On 16/01/07, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alternative: - small capacitator parallel to the battery - script/function that -- unmount the SD -- let the phone sleep for a while I know it's probably too late, but why not

OpenMoko - Giving away ideas?

2007-01-16 Thread Sergio Bessa
Hi, I was wondering what ou guys think about someone using the ideas collected at http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpenMoko/Ideas What if some big company, such as the one who announced a new phone last week, gets some of these ideas and registers them? Sorry if I'm just making some

Re: I'd like to see a Neo1973 running without battery, but USB powered :) Re: Kingmax announces microSDHC 4G card

2007-01-16 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Joe! Joe Pfeiffer schrieb am Dienstag, den 16. Januar 2007 um 08:16h: Robert Michel writes: If the Neo1973 could run only with USB power (without battery) than you would be able to skip this point attach the battery using wires :) Hmmm, it is possible to charge the battery over

Bluetooth question ;)

2007-01-16 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Sean, *! It is great that the Neo1973 v1 will have Bluetooth :))) Will you publish which version and class it will have? And can somebody explain (me) if beside the bandwith are any hardware limitation for Bluetooth profiles? Where is a good overview about linux Bluetooth and profiles?

Re: I'd like to see a Neo1973 running without battery, but USB powered :) Re: Kingmax announces microSDHC 4G card

2007-01-16 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Tuesday 16 January 2007 17:17, Robert Michel wrote: I would find the need for reboots not smart. The wish that the Neo would run also USB powered would only help on the road, when I have a battery powered USB hub or any other USB power source - only for switching the cards? I doubt

Re: keyboard / keypad idea

2007-01-16 Thread Justyn Butler
Why not modify a normal screen protector to have raised bumps in a keyboard layout, but leave the whole thing transparent. A screen protector is just a piece of plastic film with adhesive round the edges. The protector will live on the screen all the time and you could probably forget it's there

Re: Time to copy 1GB via USB 1.1 = 12 minutes? Re: MikroSD under the battery - unmount, sleep modus, small capacitator Re: MicroSD Wifi ?

2007-01-16 Thread Ole Tange
On 1/16/07, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - changing SIM / microSD card without reboot Not sure why anyone would need to switch SIM constantly... gooing abroad - using a cheaper tariff I would prefer a mutipexer for 4 sim cards... but we already had this discussion.. on this list

LG touchscreen phone screenshots

2007-01-16 Thread Oleg L. Sverdlov
http://cellphones.techfresh.net/archives/2007/01/13/lg-ke850-touchscreen-phone-on-video/ -- Best regards, Oleg. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

This is interesting :)) also legal? Re: Time to copy 1GB via USB 1.1 = 12 minutes? Re: MikroSD under the battery - unmount, sleep modus, small capacitator Re: MicroSD Wifi ?

2007-01-16 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Ole! On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Ole Tange wrote: On 1/16/07, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - changing SIM / microSD card without reboot Not sure why anyone would need to switch SIM constantly... gooing abroad - using a cheaper tariff I would prefer a mutipexer for 4 sim

Re: LCD

2007-01-16 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On 1/16/07 11:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you please confirm that this screen really is full VGA not 320x200? VGA definitely is 480x640 not 240x320. And yes, the device is VGA. -Sean ___ OpenMoko community mailing list

Re: Fwd: OpenMoko in my area?

2007-01-16 Thread Mike
Andreas Kostyrka wrote: * Mike [070116 00:11]: I agree with this, and I'd also like to add that this list should also auto-prepend a marker in the subject line like most other lists do, for example [OMOKO-COM] so that we can set up mail filters. But it does already set a marker: List-Id:

Gaming oportunities

2007-01-16 Thread Engin Erenturk
Hi, I'm Engin; I'm a game developer from Istanbul/Turkey. the thing i wonder most about open openmoko is the gaming oportunities. as i read from mails today, it will have a 640x480 vga screen. Is there any predictions about the gam#351;ing oportunities of this device?

Re: Gaming oportunities

2007-01-16 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Tuesday 16 January 2007 18:51, Engin Erenturk wrote: Hi, I'm Engin; I'm a game developer from Istanbul/Turkey. the thing i wonder most about open openmoko is the gaming oportunities. as i read from mails today, it will have a 640x480 vga screen. Is there any predictions about the

Re: A FIC phone with a real keyboard - Was: OpenMoko ON the iPhone

2007-01-16 Thread Dane Jensen
On Saturday 13 January 2007 13:0 PS I have an unrelated question. I see that FIC produces laptops (the contact for clients here in the Netherlands is someone in the UK). I expect you are a user of these laptops. Do you have a good experience? I was very upset when, at the moment of buying my

Re: Gaming oportunities

2007-01-16 Thread Engin Erenturk
hi again; the main problem with touch screen controls is you cannot give the user my hands fits on this button feeling. this feeling makes the players comfortable about controlling the characters, etc. on th screen. as i said before, also virrtual keypads can be used, or just touching can be a

Re: Gaming oportunities

2007-01-16 Thread Engin Erenturk
maybe with virtual buttons on the screen it can be used as a gaming device? i mean not a total gaming device but, some arcade games (like j2me games, but better) Gabriel Ambuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 16 January 2007 18:51, Engin Erenturk wrote: Hi, I'm Engin; I'm a game

Re: Gaming oportunities

2007-01-16 Thread Engin Erenturk
maybe with virtual buttons on the screen it can be used as a gaming device? i mean not a total gaming device but, some arcade games (like j2me games, but better) Gabriel Ambuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 16 January 2007 18:51, Engin Erenturk wrote: Hi, I'm Engin; I'm a game

Re: Gaming oportunities

2007-01-16 Thread Marc Verwerft
Hi everyone. Ever since I 'met' the OpenMoko I wanted one. And since it has AGPS on board, it could be even more usefull to me. I love riding a motorcycle and was hoping that this thingy could be turned into a TomTom rider equivalent. Meaning that I need large buttons when using gloves. Looks

Re: Gaming oportunities

2007-01-16 Thread Wil Chung
Hi, this is my first time posting, I'm just been lurking so far. Looks like everyone, including myself is excited about openmoko. Engin's recent post on controls had me thinking: Why do we have buttons in games? But I think we had buttons to control games because early game makers didn't have

Re: Gaming oportunities

2007-01-16 Thread el jefe delito
Some of the easier ideas could be: 1. Tic-Tac-Toe: grid changes colour for the Red player's turn, or Blue player's turn 2. Connect Four: grid also changes colour 3. Checkers 4. Chess 5. Gem Drop (already GPL, some info here http://www.tucows.com/preview/9259) 6. that addictive Photo game where

Re: More info on standard applications

2007-01-16 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
el jefe delito writes: I'd love to see the KDE apps on this thing, but I read somewhere on the list that most of the WM interface is likely based on GTK libraries (GNOME). Being Open, though, we could probably move KWM/KDE onto the Neo; not sure if the processing power and storage can handle it.

Re: Gaming oportunities

2007-01-16 Thread Marcel de Jong
If the Neo has a multi touch touchscreen, we really should think outside of the box. Look at this demonstration by mr. Jeff Han to see an example of what might be possible :) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5195605778138598326 And look at what Nintendo did with their DS. (though of

Re: Gaming oportunities

2007-01-16 Thread Jonas Berlin
Quoting Marcel de Jong on 01/16/2007 09:33 PM UTC: If the Neo has a multi touch touchscreen, we really should think outside of the box. Look at this demonstration by mr. Jeff Han to see an example of what might be possible :) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5195605778138598326 And

Re: Gaming oportunities

2007-01-16 Thread tony
el jefe delito wrote: Some of the easier ideas could be: 1. Tic-Tac-Toe: grid changes colour for the Red player's turn, or Blue player's turn 2. Connect Four: grid also changes colour 3. Checkers 4. Chess 5. Gem Drop (already GPL, some info here http://www.tucows.com/preview/9259 ) 6. that

Unpowered USB as a data drive?

2007-01-16 Thread Pranav Desai
Hello All, From some info on the list I gather that the SD card will have no more that 4GB, so will I be able to use a USB flash drive with 'X' GB storage for media files e.g. I am asking since I am not sure what implication does the Unpowered aspect have on USB devices. Related to media

Re: Unpowered USB as a data drive?

2007-01-16 Thread Ole Tange
On 1/16/07, Pranav Desai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From some info on the list I gather that the SD card will have no more that 4GB, so will I be able to use a USB flash drive with 'X' GB storage for media files e.g. I am asking since I am not sure what implication does the Unpowered aspect have

Re: Gaming oportunities

2007-01-16 Thread Richard Franks
On 1/16/07, Gabriel Ambuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless your game can be controlled with a touchscreen, you won't like it as gaming device. I've got a mockup I did for a Gravity Power port I've been putting off for too long: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/359950380/ With a

2.5G NOT EDGE

2007-01-16 Thread Craig St Jean
Hello, Just wondering, does that mean its EVDO? Or something else? I have Cingular, which supports I believe only EDGE (2G and 2.5G?) and 3G. Could someone please expand on the 2.5G NOT EDGE line? Thanks! ___ OpenMoko community mailing list

phone bot idea

2007-01-16 Thread Lee Colleton
I'd like to run a bot on my phone that I'd be able to chat with via Jabber (XMPP, used by Gmail and others). This would allow me to easily set and receive notifications to augment the small screen UI by extending the reach of the phone to any net connected computer. The bot could also set your