Re: Missed call communication protocol

2007-02-08 Thread Richard Bennett
On Thursday 08 February 2007 15:06, Alexandre Ghisoli wrote: > I was working on a project, maybe 15 years ago, where we developped a > "modem" to transfer data : > 1/ during setup, for free > 2/ during the blanks of a conversation (approx 80% of the time, because > only one speaks at time, so you g

Re: Missed call communication protocol

2007-02-08 Thread Richard Bennett
On Thursday 08 February 2007 16:20, Jonathon Suggs wrote: > Telcos are not going to let this type of thing happen. I'm all for being > able to do things for 'free as in beer' with my 'free as in speech' > phone...BUT if we start abusing some features/protocols then they will > notice/retaliate. Tr

Re: Hardware changes between phases ?

2007-02-08 Thread Rod Whitby
Make sure you don't misread Sean's announcement - Phase 2 refers to the mass public sales of the v1 device. The 'introduction' of the v2 device at that same time will most likely be in the form of web pages, not v2 hardware. That doesn't preclude minor hardware changes between Phase 1 and Phase

Hardware changes between phases ?

2007-02-08 Thread Pranav Desai
Hello All, Are there going to hardware changes between Phase1 and Phase2 ... from this posting it sounds like that, just wanted to verify. http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/announce/2007-January/00.html 2007-03-11 Phase 1: Official Developer Launch We will sell the Neo1973 direct from

Re: Various questions & ideas: Maemo porting, package management...

2007-02-08 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Florent THIERY writes: > >Hum, does a keyboard need to be powered? Unless it's got a battery... ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Various questions & ideas: Maemo porting, package management.

2007-02-08 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Thursday 08 February 2007 18:06:12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Almost certainly. At the very least there is a microcontroller or other > hardware to handle the USB protocol and to do the keyboard scanning. > > Unless someone cleverly makes a self-powered keyboard. Anyone know of one? > All Bluet

powered keyboards (was: various questions...)

2007-02-08 Thread michael
On Thu, 8 Feb 2007, Florent THIERY wrote: I didn't find any self powered keyboard on google, but a lot of bluetooth / IR battery powered keyboards http: //www.expansys.lu/p.aspx?i=112314 http: //www.expansys.lu/n.aspx?f=132 http: //www.nokiausa.com/accessories/item_details/1,8994,product:SU-

Re: Various questions & ideas: Maemo porting, package management.

2007-02-08 Thread Florent THIERY
I didn't find any self powered keyboard on google, but a lot of bluetooth / IR battery powered keyboards http://www.expansys.lu/p.aspx?i=112314 http://www.expansys.lu/n.aspx?f=132 http://www.nokiausa.com/accessories/item_details/1,8994,product:SU-8W,00.html A battery powered foldable keyboard wo

Re: Various questions & ideas: Maemo porting, package management.

2007-02-08 Thread michael
On Thu, 8 Feb 2007, Florent THIERY wrote: > - what about package management? apt-get like mecanism? Do you > consider using mkezx ? An official binary repository?... for phase 1 we will use ipkg. For phase 2 we either would like to see an sqlite backend in ipkg (because the default one i

Re: Various questions & ideas: Maemo porting, package management...

2007-02-08 Thread Florent THIERY
> - what about package management? apt-get like mecanism? Do you > consider using mkezx ? An official binary repository?... for phase 1 we will use ipkg. For phase 2 we either would like to see an sqlite backend in ipkg (because the default one is really slow) or something written from scratch.

Re: Missed call communication protocol

2007-02-08 Thread Jonathon Suggs
Alexandre Ghisoli wrote: > I was working on a project, maybe 15 years ago, where we developped a "modem" > to transfer data : > 1/ during setup, for free > 2/ during the blanks of a conversation (approx 80% of the time, because only > one speaks at time, so you got a free 64kbps channel )) > This

RE: Missed call communication protocol

2007-02-08 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >Nice turn of phrase. I think there's a t-shirt in there, or perhaps an >OpenMoko project tagline: > > "free-as-in-beer software for your free-as-in-speech phone" I'd prefer it the other way around: free-as-in-speech software for your free-as-in-beer phone. But that

Re: Free maps after all?

2007-02-08 Thread Terrence Barr - Evangelist, Java Mobile & Embedded
Florent THIERY wrote: Yes, but consider it differently: You are at home and you're going to go soon somewhere. Before going, your handset is connected to Internet using usblan or bluetooth, and you plan your trip; the app asks you where you want to go, fetches gps info for the starting poin

Re: Various questions & ideas: Maemo porting, package management...

2007-02-08 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Hi Florent, please send text-only E-Mail to this list. > - how hard will it be possible to port maemo apps to OpenMoko (if possible)? This question is two-fold -- it has a build level and an UI level. Build level: You would need to change the Maemo specific application and widget classes to Ope

Various questions & ideas: Maemo porting, package management...

2007-02-08 Thread Florent THIERY
Hi I have some little questions: - how hard will it be possible to port maemo apps to OpenMoko (if possible)? - what about package management? apt-get like mecanism? Do you consider using mkezx ? An official binary repository?... - will the AP's filesystem be read-write ? - already thought of usi

Re: Missed call communication protocol

2007-02-08 Thread Alexandre Ghisoli
Le jeudi 08 février 2007 à 11:16 +0100, Richard Bennett a écrit : > > 2/ For ISDN network (Q.931 signaling), use of the UserInfo field, on the > > signaling session (yes, you can send some byte when the phone is > > ringing, without charge) > Ok... Are you sure you don't mean the 'Display' field i

Re: Free maps after all?

2007-02-08 Thread Sven Neuhaus
Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: > http://go.theregister.com/feed/http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/02/08/nokia_frees_smart2go/ Let's hope they adapt their Linux client to the OpenMoko environment. I kind of like the business model they are proposing. For people who need satellite navigation services only o

Re: Free maps after all?

2007-02-08 Thread Terrence Barr - Evangelist, Java Mobile & Embedded
Honestly, I am not too impressed by the Wayfinder or Google maps concept of on-demand online mapping. Sure, it offers many benefits in terms of being current and offering real-time services. But what if you are in a remote area without wireless access, i.e. when you need the maps most? I'd rather

Re: Free maps after all?

2007-02-08 Thread Florent THIERY
Hi I know it's important to have binary maps archives, but wouldn't it be simpler/better/easier to do a google maps + GPS mashup application (before open source maps are complete)? Again, sadly no EDGE... Florent ___ OpenMoko community mailing list com

Re: Free maps after all?

2007-02-08 Thread Mikko J Rauhala
On to, 2007-02-08 at 13:39 +0100, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: > http://go.theregister.com/feed/http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/02/08/nokia_frees_smart2go/ Before I see the license, I'll assume that the maps are free to use only with their restricted gratis application (which may or may not be an enfo

Free maps after all?

2007-02-08 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
http://go.theregister.com/feed/http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/02/08/nokia_frees_smart2go/ pgpJJrCHk8CB1.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/commun

RE: Missed call communication protocol

2007-02-08 Thread Graham Auld
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 February 2007 05:34 To: Graham Auld Cc: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: RE: Missed call communication protocol On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Graham Auld wrote: > I like it, sound

Re: Missed call communication protocol

2007-02-08 Thread Richard Bennett
On Thursday 08 February 2007 09:01, Alexandre Ghisoli wrote: > > Sorry to throw a spanner in the works but I'm not sure that this will > > work here. It may work in other countries. I think I heard about it > > working in the US. > > I'll second that for switzerland. > > When you subscribe for a E1

Re: Missed call communication protocol

2007-02-08 Thread Alexandre Ghisoli
Le mercredi 07 février 2007 à 16:08 +0200, Rodney Arne Karlsen a écrit : > Hi there > > While you can choose your callerID when using a sip server, it may not stay > the way you set it once it passes through the PSTN gateway. I tried playing > with CallerID stuff some time back here in South Afr