Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-05-30 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
Well, OpenMoko still is mainly a phone platform, not a gps platform. ;) The Neo will me sold als phone with the option to install software, not because of its GPS chip. There will be much free software which will make the Neo a great smartphone (hopefully ^^). TomTom ported its software to series6

Re: information efficient text enty using dasher

2007-05-30 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
Finger Splash looks very cool and useful. Imho a cool idea. @[EMAIL PROTECTED]: You are right, abcde... keyboards can be used for blind typing. But not on a only-touchscreen-phone. I used a Nokia 7710 for about 1.5 years and typing blind was simply impossible. Theres no feedback at all. 2007/5/3

Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-05-30 Thread Ian Darwin
Thomas Gstädtner wrote: Well, OpenMoko still is mainly a phone platform, not a gps platform. ;) The Neo will me sold as a phone with the option to install software, not because of its GPS chip. There will be much free software which will make the Neo a great smartphone (hopefully ^^). TomTom p

Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-05-30 Thread Raphaël Jacquot
Ian Darwin wrote: > I'd like to have good maps, and as you implied, OpenStreetMap (OSM) is > probably years - maybe decades - from having comprehensive maps of the > world. "Much digitization required" :-). this actually depends on where you're located. __

Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-05-30 Thread Buddy
Well, I hope you're right! And I hope enough Neos get sold that it becomes worth their while. I'd like to have good maps, and as you implied, OpenStreetMap (OSM) is probably years - maybe decades - from having comprehensive maps of the world. "Much digitization required" :-). Ian Darwin A sim

Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-05-30 Thread Ian Darwin
Raphaël Jacquot wrote: Ian Darwin wrote: I'd like to have good maps, and as you implied, OpenStreetMap (OSM) is probably years - maybe decades - from having comprehensive maps of the world. "Much digitization required" :-). this actually depends on where you're located. Yes, clearly some ma

Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-05-30 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia środa, 30 maja 2007, Thomas Gstädtner napisał: > Well, OpenMoko still is mainly a phone platform, not a gps platform. ;) > The Neo will me sold als phone with the option to install software, not > because of its GPS chip. One of reasons why my friend bought HTC Artemis phone was GPS unit and

information efficient text enty using dasher

2007-05-30 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
I tried dasher for 2 minutes and I write faster with dasher than on my mobile phone. I also would like the two extra side buttons for dasher but we don't need it. We have the aux button. In pressed mode, it can mean down, and in released mode, it can mean up. I know I will use dasher on my neo wh

Re: information efficient text enty using dasher

2007-05-30 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
Just one problem. If we only have one button, there is no way to adjust the speed. On 5/30/07, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I tried dasher for 2 minutes and I write faster with dasher than on my mobile phone. I also would like the two extra side buttons for dasher but w

Re: information efficient text enty using dasher

2007-05-30 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
Just one more thing On my laptop I have this little joystick button in the middle of the keyboard. If we could get a button like that on the side of the neo phone, dasher would be great. On 5/30/07, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just one problem. If we only have one

Re: information efficient text enty using dasher

2007-05-30 Thread Frank Coenen
What is wrong with just using the stylus? I've tried it with my Wacom tabled, Dasher works great! If your using an on screen keyboard, you'll need the stylus anyway. On 5/30/07, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just one more thing On my laptop I have this little joysti

Re: information efficient text enty using dasher

2007-05-30 Thread el jefe delito
I just watched the Google Video and I found it to be a very cool item. The one-handed aspect of typing with Dasher is useful but I think that using a finger or stylus would be more accommodating -- tilt control (if we had it) could possibly make the screen unviewable, and in/out with the single b

Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-05-30 Thread Patrick Beck
Openstreetmap is till now not a alternative to other proprietary map companys. A map with only a small fraction of my country is not good to navigate;) With kind regards, Patrick Beck Am Dienstag, den 29.05.2007, 16:57 -0400 schrieb Ian Darwin: > > And besides, wouldn't you rather have an open

Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-05-30 Thread Ian Darwin
A simple app to add data for the OpenStreetMap project on OpenMoko will probably help a lot. Absolutely. And I'm sure several of these will come into being. If you want reuse, however, you should think about writing it in Java. Believe that there will be good Java ME implementations for OpenM

Re: information efficient text enty using dasher

2007-05-30 Thread Ian Darwin
Frank Coenen wrote: What is wrong with just using the stylus? I've tried it with my Wacom tabled, Dasher works great! If your using an on screen keyboard, you'll need the stylus anyway. This is a bit OT but, if you are using the stylus, some people may find it more efficient to use simplified

Re: information efficient text enty using dasher

2007-05-30 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
Of course writing with the stylus is better (especially because dasher is much better in 2D mode than in 1D), but you need 2 hands for that. But a trackstick (the mouse replacement of notebooks, mainly thinkpads) on the side would be crazy :) I hope future FIC/OpenMoko-Phones will have more button

Openstreetmapping with Neo and others

2007-05-30 Thread Mikko J Rauhala
On ke, 2007-05-30 at 10:48 -0400, Ian Darwin wrote: > > A simple app to add data for the OpenStreetMap project on OpenMoko > > will probably help a lot. > > Absolutely. And I'm sure several of these will come into being. > > If you want reuse, however, you should think about writing it in Java. > B

Re: information efficient text enty using dasher

2007-05-30 Thread Rory McCann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Flemming Richter Mikkelsen said the following on 30/05/07 14:21: > Just one more thing > > On my laptop I have this little joystick button in the middle of the > keyboard. If we could get a button like that on the side of the neo > phone, dasher w

Re: information efficient text enty using dasher

2007-05-30 Thread Steven Milburn
Many fingerprint sensors that would fit where the button is have a navigation function. They operate much like the touchstick, or a mini touchpad, when not capturing a fingerprint. They are gaining traction in the tablet and ultra-mobile PC market for doing scrolling and simple navigation when

Re: information efficient text enty using dasher

2007-05-30 Thread openmoko
> > > Many fingerprint sensors that would fit where the button is have a > navigation function. They operate much like the touchstick, or a mini > touchpad, when not capturing a fingerprint. They are gaining traction in > the tablet and ultra-mobile PC market for doing scrolling and simple > nav

Re: Openstreetmapping with Neo and others

2007-05-30 Thread openmoko
> On ke, 2007-05-30 at 10:48 -0400, Ian Darwin wrote: >> > A simple app to add data for the OpenStreetMap project on OpenMoko >> > will probably help a lot. >> >> Absolutely. And I'm sure several of these will come into being. >> >> If you want reuse, however, you should think about writing it in J