2007/8/3, Patrick Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Perhaps you can take a high-res photo of the neo pouch, because anybody
> says that we can keep the stylus there?
Check out last pictures on http://www.openmoko.org.pl/node/38
IMHO you can put stylus in there but I have some troubles while
closing po
On 4 Aug 2007, at 00:31, Andy Poling wrote:
.1), and I like the fact that the main buttons are larger and
easier to use.
I can't find a way to power off under .2 though. :-)
init 0 :P
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PS - That reminds me... am I the only one who thinks you should be able to
select "power off" from the battery status icon?
Or the end of main menu, by analogy with "File->Quit" (or Close).
Either way, it should be clear.
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On Fri, 3 Aug 2007, Thomas Gst??dtner wrote:
If you want to try it, you can take a look at alphaone's builds
http://people.openmoko.org/alphaone/images/
They work for me, but they are very (and I mean very!) basic.
I tried alphaone's build, and I must say I like what I see. I was able to
prett
Thomas
> Yet another poor iPhone-lookalike. *gape*
> Sorry, but can't see the clones and the original anymore.
If someone has put together a decent scheme for a UI with only a
touchscreen, it should serve as inspiration, not repulsion.
(Multitouch is irrelevant here--we can have an excellent,
wel
Any guesses as to why the FCC only tested and approved the PCS 1900Mhz
band but not cellular 850Mhz?
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The player is emphasis, based on Etk (EFL) and it's a mpd client.
But it's running via X remote on the neo, not native. But shouldn't be a
problem native, too.
The same for all other apps, I only tested how they would look, they are NOT
running on the device.
Just for info :)
And of course you can
pe, 2007-08-03 kello 13:52 -0600, Brad Midgley kirjoitti:
> can neo pull off a touch keyboard (maybe if the screen could rotate?)
Without comment about the other stuff, the Neo screen can rotate via
standard xrandr, and OpenMoko includes the client binary too. No GUI to
do that at this point appa
On 3 Aug 2007, at 21:30, Thomas Gstädtner wrote:
Yet another poor iPhone-lookalike. *gape*
Sorry, but can't see the clones and the original anymore.
Concerning your question: rotating the screen is no problem at all
since the OM kdrive has xrandr support (xrandr -o 1), but imho the
screen
Am Freitag, den 03.08.2007, 19:49 +0200 schrieb Thomas Gstädtner:
> If you want some high res pics (but not that good quality) you can
> take a look here: http://gstaedtner.net/bilder/neo1973/
> Feel free to do with the photos what you want :)
Very cool pictures :D
Can you say me which musicplay
Just thought I would share...no real details other than "it is coming"
and HTC is building it.
http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSN0242431720070802
http://snapvoip.blogspot.com/2007/08/google-phone-coming-soon.html
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Yet another poor iPhone-lookalike. *gape*
Sorry, but can't see the clones and the original anymore.
Concerning your question: rotating the screen is no problem at all since the
OM kdrive has xrandr support (xrandr -o 1), but imho the screen is still
physically too small to allow writing with your
Cancel the last thing I said. I moved to the US and for some unknow
reason my brain mixed the two countries laws.
You declare the items on the outgoing section of your quarterly VAT
return. You get the money back as a refund against VAT your company
charged (assuming you're VAT registered).
Re
Hey
Red flag is showing off some very inviting touch menus. The page
demonstrates them on an asus r2h which also has a gps.
http://apcmag.com/5896/gallery_intels_new_mobile_internet_device_with_red_flag_linux
it is intriguing but does bring up some questions...
can neo pull off a touch keybo
Maybe someone is interested. A side by side picture of the Neo1973
and a Nokia Communicator 9300.
http://www.album.de/bild/482861/img-0566.cfm
Regards
Karsten
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If you want some high res pics (but not that good quality) you can take a
look here: http://gstaedtner.net/bilder/neo1973/
Feel free to do with the photos what you want :)
2007/8/3, Sudharshan S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 17:36 +0200, Shakthi Kannan wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Photo
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 17:36 +0200, Shakthi Kannan wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Photos are here:
> http://shakthimaan.com/downloads/openmoko/images/package/
>
I bet you took high res photos of the neo on purpose...Show off!
Regards
Sudharshan S
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Even without the launchbox (only have basic) I can agree.
In my company we have the launchbox in big, its about 15kg :)
2007/8/3, Shakthi Kannan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Hi,
>
> Photos are here:
> http://shakthimaan.com/downloads/openmoko/images/package/
>
> * The packaging was kinda neat. I didn'
Not to belabor the point, but I disagree:
wim delvaux wrote:
> well for me 'open source' does not mean GPL. 'Open source' for me means the
> source is available to you and you can modify it but it does not give you the
> right to do what you want with it.
>
> GPL that is another story. It allo
>Photos are here:
>http://shakthimaan.com/downloads/openmoko/images/package/
Thanks for the great photos! I am lurking on the list and
participating vicariously. The photos help make it seem more
"real." I'd love to see some in-action shots if ever possible from
anyone who gets their phone w
Well, then we have luck that you do not define what open source is :)
There's a official definition of open source:
http://www.opensource.org/docs/osd
Thanks to all guys in the whole open source scene.
2007/8/3, wim delvaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> On Friday 03 August 2007 17:14:36 Ian Darwin wrot
Can I get block diagrams and user manuals for any phone? If anything with an
FCC ID has all its info published it would make reverse engineering easy. I
wonder what the regulations are on it?
Harrison Metzger
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On Friday 03 August 2007 17:14:36 Ian Darwin wrote:
> Tim Milliken wrote:
> > I am looking into joining in on this project. Welcome aboard!
>
> Welcome aboard!
>
> > I am a windows programmer
> >
> > and know almost nothing about Linux. Where should I start? Can anyone
> > give me some starting po
FCC put the application up. Draft manual is included.
On the cover letter, why is there a request for confidentiality? Block
diagram, schematics, operation description, parts list, and tune-up
procedure. Isn't some of this already on the wiki?
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/fcc_query.ph
Hi,
Photos are here:
http://shakthimaan.com/downloads/openmoko/images/package/
* The packaging was kinda neat. I didn't expect so much of foam in it.
* That is one heavy lunch-box, even without anything in it! It is
quite big for a lunch-box too, atleast for me. I can pack breakfast,
lunch and d
Tim Milliken wrote:
I am looking into joining in on this project. Welcome aboard!
Welcome aboard!
> I am a windows programmer
and know almost nothing about Linux. Where should I start? Can anyone
give me some starting points on getting started. Like do I have to be
running Linux as a host de
Hello,
Just a quick note that the Neo1973 seems to have started its viral
marketing campaign in the South Pacific - i.e. in NZ's largest national
newspaper[1]. The article is a bit misleading, though, as it refers to
the Neo in an image but is actually discussing the 'GooglePhone' - oh
well "c'est
Tim Milliken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> I am looking into joining in on this project. I am a windows
> programmer and know almost nothing about Linux. Where should I start? Can
> anyone give me some starting points on getting started. Like do I have to be
> running Linux as a host development O
I am looking into joining in on this project. I am a windows programmer and
know almost nothing about Linux. Where should I start? Can anyone give me
some starting points on getting started. Like do I have to be running Linux
as a host development OS? I am really lost but very interested in this. I
I flashed my Neo to this revision:
http://chooseopen.com/openmoko/build/u-boot-gta01bv4-r11_e80955f07de03fef0196353e77534b2300193c1c_0_2348.bin
Some things I have noticed:
a- I no longer have to hold the power button down for >3 secs. to start the
bootloader. I yet to check the release notes to s
Hello,
Something that can interest contributors to the OpenMoko project... I'll
be delighted if one of you win.
My company has decided to offer a free seat to one deserving community
contributor in our next public embedded Linux training session,
which will happen in Vence, near Nice, France, on
The amount seems to be VAT. According to EU (EC) rules, VAT has
to be paid at the point of crossing the EU border for goods meant
for selling to customers. For calculating the taxed value, the
cost of shipment to the border is INCLUDED. If shipment from the
border to the destination within EU (EC)
Giles Jones pisze:
Krzysztof Kajkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
QEMU ARM
I'm sure it may boot up, but it won't have support for the GSM hardware?
Would it somehow run with Samsung ARM7 processor?
Best regards.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just thought you all might like to know that OpenMoko shipments are
attracting import duty in the United Kingdom.
Despite paying USD104.99 for 'expedited' shipping, my order arrived with
a demand for GBP57.19 in import duty. This should either be factored
into the s
On Friday 03 August 2007 14:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Thomas:
>
> Importation of computer devices and peripherals to the EU is indeed both
> VAT and import duty exempt - it appears that the description of the goods,
> compounded with the value statement, has led to this issue. It is indeed
> O
Am 03.08.2007 um 08:20 schrieb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Actually, speaking as someone who imports electronic components and
peripherals for prototype systems from the US all the time, I do
know what to expect when I import.
Importation of computer devices and peripherals to the EU is indeed
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
>This should either be factored into the shipping charge or, >as these devices
>are technically 'computer peripherals', >described as 'computer peripherals'
>in order that they do not >attract import duty.
IIRC the UK law changed in late 2006, computer equipment is lia
Thomas:
Actually, speaking as someone who imports electronic components and peripherals
for prototype systems from the US all the time, I do know what to expect when I
import.
Importation of computer devices and peripherals to the EU is indeed both VAT
and import duty exempt - it appears tha
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Some thoughts:
1) you are responsible for import duties, no external shipper can know
the import duties for all territories, and so take the risk.
2) Furthermore, it's slightly unusual (if at all possible) for the
sender to pay the import duty.
3) I
Well, you chose to live in the wrong country (or the wrong continent). You
should know what expects you if YOU IMPORT a device.
This is not the fault of OpenMoko (Inc.).
Also there is no duty on computing devices and mobile phones in the EU - so
I guess you are wrong.
GBP60 sounds like VAT (15.5% i
Just thought you all might like to know that OpenMoko shipments are
attracting import duty in the United Kingdom.
Despite paying USD104.99 for 'expedited' shipping, my order arrived with
a demand for GBP57.19 in import duty. This should either be factored
into the shipping charge or, as these devi
If you want to try it, you can take a look at alphaone's builds
http://people.openmoko.org/alphaone/images/
They work for me, but they are very (and I mean very!) basic.
2007/8/3, Krzysztof Kajkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Hi!
>
> I read OM lists daily but I still have some basic questions about
There has been a discussion about OpenMoko2007 and OpenMoko2008 in the
mailing list. I guess you will find more information there.
Additionally:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko2007.2
That's all I know, I didn't followed the thread :|
-homyx
On Friday 03 August 2007 12:44, Krzysztof K
I propose new wiki namespaces to save the localized pages:
* lang:es to Spanish translations
* lang:de to German translations
etc...
This, take sense when moving to translate the page titles, to avoid
ambiguous wiki titles...
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Hi!
I read OM lists daily but I still have some basic questions about
2007.2. Could someone explain:
- what is 2007.2 code?
- can I install it on my GTA01v4? How?
- can I use this with MokoMakefile?
- when do you plan to make it ready for testing?
best regards
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Dnia piątek, 3 sierpnia 2007, Krzysztof Kajkowski napisał:
> "OpenedHand is offering pre-built Poky 3.0 kernels, modules, and root
> filesystem images for a several popular development targets,
> including:
> Nokia N800 web tablet (experimental)
> OpenMoko GTA01 (FIC-GTA01) (experimental)
> Hmm, a
I guess it wont.
It doesnt even have drivers for bluetooth yet.
Howevern, I'd be interested in a short comment if someone tested it.
2007/8/3, Giles Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Krzysztof Kajkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> >
> > http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6869195570.html
> >
> > Hm
Krzysztof Kajkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
>
> http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6869195570.html
>
> Hmm, anyone installed this?
I'm sure it may boot up, but it won't have support for the GSM hardware?
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I attempted to, however despite what is said in the article, openedhand
has not made images for the neo available for download.
Krzysztof Kajkowski wrote:
"OpenedHand is offering pre-built Poky 3.0 kernels, modules, and root
filesystem images for a several popular development targets,
including
"OpenedHand is offering pre-built Poky 3.0 kernels, modules, and root
filesystem images for a several popular development targets,
including:
Nokia N800 web tablet (experimental)
OpenMoko GTA01 (FIC-GTA01) (experimental)
Sharp Zaurus c7x0 (C700, C750, C760, C860, SL-7500)
Sharp Zaurus Akita (SL-C10
Seems that there is again a new competitor in the browser section, called
Origyn Web Browser (OWB)
It's opensource (BSD/LGPL), developed for embedded devices and based on
WebKit.
http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT5894497943.html
Feel free to tell us your experiences. :)
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