Re: omit qemu from OE build?

2007-09-01 Thread Sudharshan S
On 9/2/07, Shawn Rutledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > After the compiler "badness" on my one gentoo system (which I have no > idea how to resolve) I decided to try on another machine which happens > to be 64-bit and with gcc 4.1, so there isn't much hope of getting > qemu to run. But openmoko-d

omit qemu from OE build?

2007-09-01 Thread Shawn Rutledge
After the compiler "badness" on my one gentoo system (which I have no idea how to resolve) I decided to try on another machine which happens to be 64-bit and with gcc 4.1, so there isn't much hope of getting qemu to run. But openmoko-devel-image or openmoko-image depend on it. Is there a way to r

Re: SMedia 3362

2007-09-01 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 9/1/07, Shawn Rutledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is the NVIDIA GoForce 4800 and I don't see datasheets for it either. I found datasheets with real, substantial datasheets for these: Silicon Motion SM502 Phillips/NXP PNX17XX series Renesas HD64412 Epson S1D13513 (but it only has bitblt

Re: SMedia 3362

2007-09-01 Thread Ian Stirling
Shawn Rutledge wrote: On 9/1/07, Marcin Juszkiewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9/1/07, Ian Stirling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: FPGAs of equivalent size are _NOT_ cheap, or low power. I'd guess the SMedia chip is $20 or so. Now, go and look for a low power FPGA with the thick end of a mega

Re: SMedia 3362

2007-09-01 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 9/1/07, Marcin Juszkiewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dnia sobota, 1 września 2007, Shawn Rutledge napisał: > > > What about the XScale accelerators? There was one designed > > specifically as a companion to the PXA270. Are they more open? > > Intel 2700G? It is closed - the only source releas

Re: SMedia 3362

2007-09-01 Thread Ian Stirling
Shawn Rutledge wrote: On 9/1/07, Raphael Jacquot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Shawn Rutledge wrote: Is there any technical info available about this chip? Is there an X driver for it, or one in progress? depending on the timeframe, perhaps FIC could contact or help the opengraphics people wi

Re: SMedia 3362

2007-09-01 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia sobota, 1 września 2007, Shawn Rutledge napisał: > What about the XScale accelerators?  There was one designed > specifically as a companion to the PXA270.  Are they more open? Intel 2700G? It is closed - the only source released was mess afaik. > My Zaurus has a TC6393; it has line-drawing

Re: Two finger input methods (PyGTK demos)

2007-09-01 Thread Kristian 'kriss' Mueller
Lars Hallberg wrote: > This is a new one (Layout is 'numlock' one): >http://www.micropp.se/openmoko/res/key2key.py Nice idea. Had to change the code a bit, as the UI of the current version fires up the keyboard if a text entry has the focus - see patch. For me it was hard to choose the right

Re: SMedia 3362

2007-09-01 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 9/1/07, Raphael Jacquot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shawn Rutledge wrote: > > Is there any technical info available about this chip? > > > > Is there an X driver for it, or one in progress? > > depending on the timeframe, perhaps FIC could contact or help the > opengraphics people with their pr

Re: SMedia 3362

2007-09-01 Thread Raphael Jacquot
Shawn Rutledge wrote: Is there any technical info available about this chip? Is there an X driver for it, or one in progress? depending on the timeframe, perhaps FIC could contact or help the opengraphics people with their project, the goal of which is to create a graphics controller asic th

Re: SMedia 3362

2007-09-01 Thread Giles Jones
On 1 Sep 2007, at 19:15, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: So if you want to use Linux on anything avoid ATI. Well Intel seem to be getting praise on the graphics front for their support of open source. They've licenced PowerVR for embedded chips, so who knows. _

Re: SMedia 3362

2007-09-01 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia sobota, 1 września 2007, Giles Jones napisał: > On 1 Sep 2007, at 17:11, Mikko Rauhala wrote: > > You're implying there are better choices... > I wouldn't know since I've not looked into such things. > But ATI have mobile GPUs and are open sourcing desktop drivers, > maybe they would do the

Re: SMedia 3362

2007-09-01 Thread Mikko Rauhala
la, 2007-09-01 kello 17:19 +0100, Giles Jones kirjoitti: > I wouldn't know since I've not looked into such things. But ATI have > mobile GPUs and are open sourcing desktop drivers, maybe they would > do the same for their mobile devices? ATI's intentions to open source their GPU drivers have b

Re: SMedia 3362

2007-09-01 Thread Giles Jones
On 1 Sep 2007, at 17:11, Mikko Rauhala wrote: You're implying there are better choices... I wouldn't know since I've not looked into such things. But ATI have mobile GPUs and are open sourcing desktop drivers, maybe they would do the same for their mobile devices? ___

Re: SMedia 3362

2007-09-01 Thread Mikko Rauhala
la, 2007-09-01 kello 16:31 +0100, Giles Jones kirjoitti: > On 1 Sep 2007, at 16:07, Ian Stirling wrote: > > Unfortunately, documents are only available under NDA. > > > > This means that only FIC can write the drivers. > > Seems like an odd choice of unit then for an open source phone. You're imp

Re: SMedia 3362

2007-09-01 Thread Giles Jones
On 1 Sep 2007, at 16:07, Ian Stirling wrote: Shawn Rutledge wrote: Is there any technical info available about this chip? Is there an X driver for it, or one in progress? There is as I understand it at the moment only a dumb driver for it, using it as a framebuffer. Unfortunately, docume

Re: SMedia 3362

2007-09-01 Thread Ian Stirling
Shawn Rutledge wrote: Is there any technical info available about this chip? Is there an X driver for it, or one in progress? There is as I understand it at the moment only a dumb driver for it, using it as a framebuffer. Unfortunately, documents are only available under NDA. This means th

Thanks to Rod Whitby

2007-09-01 Thread Mark Chandler
Just wanted to give a big thanks to Rod, who un-bricked my Neo last week. I couriered it over to him from Sydney and he turned it around in less than a day. That'll teach me for not getting the advanced kit :-) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list com

Re: RF systems in Neo

2007-09-01 Thread Mikko Rauhala
la, 2007-09-01 kello 11:55 +0200, Alexey Feldgendler kirjoitti: > 4 RF systems? GSM/GPRS, Bluetooth, WiFi, what's the fourth? GPS -- Mikko Rauhala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.iki.fi/mjr/> Transhumanist - WTA member - http://www.transhumanism.org/> Singularitarian - SIAI supporte

RF systems in Neo

2007-09-01 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:46:57 +0200, Sean Moss-Pultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Try to think more about the complexity of this device. I don't know of a single "microcomputer" that has 4 RF systems. FIC makes millions of computers a year. I can promise you that it's significantly easier for us

OpenMoko 2007.2 on Palm TX

2007-09-01 Thread Stephan Tetzel
Hi! Has anyone tried to run OpenMoko on a Palm TX? Did I need a *.ext2 image or is it also possible to use the *.jffs2 image? Stephan -- GMX FreeMail: 1 GB Postfach, 5 E-Mail-Adressen, 10 Free SMS. Alle Infos und kostenlose Anmeldung: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freemail __